My Drug Dealer Just Called Me

Uh, you don't secretly live in Atlanta do you? Because the guy who sits in the cube next to mine just got a call from his.

I just got a delivery from my dealer at work. I love living in NYC!

I wish my blackjack dealer was so nice.

Is your drug dealer Limbaugh's drug dealer?

ahhhh the joyous holiday season when even our local candyman is inclined to offer up sweet gifts . . . alas, I have no heard from mine, but if I did I'd be happy with such a treat! . . .

whether it be snow in soCal for New Year's Eve
or sweet and tastey purple heaven from Hawaii

ahhhhhhh, the holiday!

My friend gave me drugs for Christmas, that count?

To keep with the spirit of giving, I hope you all are willing to share.

Yeah don't worry, that'll probably end up bad for your buddy. I smell a possible Vanilla Sky situation.

and if your dealers were really nice they would send you some freebies, like maybe a heroin Sampler pack, or some cocaine laced fruitcake.

Maybe if I bump this, people might understand my thread...(crosses fingers).

What did he call you?




HA HA !!!

EEEEEEEEHHHHH. *Pulls on collar*

a-HEE!
*coughs*
"You uh...You like the Arliss?"

Crazily enough, I just got a call from my dealer as well. The new batch is in.

Smoking Mogwai is no way to go through life, son.

Unless you're Django.

Damn, I need to get a new dealer. No phone calls for me.

You all are comfortable with the fact that a DRUG DEALER has your phone number?

Well, he's a friend of mine who also happens to sell me drugs.

So you're comfortable having a friend who's a drug dealer?

Do you get Friend Prices?

Not all drug dealers are how they are depicted in the movies -- evil drug lords trying to take over the town. They are usually friends or acquaintances who buy large stashes for themselves and sell off what they can't use. They provide a service.

As Chris Rock so eloquently says in Bring the Pain, "Drug dealers don't sell you drugs. They offer drugs. You say 'no,' that's it. They go away. The Jehovah's Witness on the other hand..."

Really Diva? Thanks for the education! <----PER

Edited to say, so I'm guessing these friends don't mark up the price any and aren't trying to make a profit of any kind? My understanding is that they're in a business to make money. Oh and it happens to be illegal. (As a side note, I believe that marijuana should be legalized.)

Never been a user of drugs but I'm absolutely fascinated by the business.

"My understanding is that they're in a business to make money."

Most of my friends buy from people who sell so that they don't have to pay for their own.

The majority of drug dealers I come into contact don't have guns and look like everyone else.

So the nines, bling, and gold teeth aren't requirements? Once again TV LIES!!!

This dealer I used to know in college carried a nine, and sported a wicked rainbow mohawk. He was also Chinese.

I don't know what's more disturbing to me.

1) People who underestimate others so much that they give us lectures about drug dealers, and how they're really not like they are in the movies.

or

2) The idea that just because drug dealers "look like everybody else" means that they're not dangerous in the least.

Right.

I thought you were Japanese.

I'm Not Really Asian.

Yes, I'm comfortable having a friend who is also my drug dealer. It works out quite nicely, spend a lot less money on the product this way. I get a good deal on it, being his friend and all. Also, this upcoming semester I'm going to be one of his fraternity brothers, so.

1) Well if people are gonna be all sarcastic and shit and ask stupid questions like, "Are you comfortable having friends who are drug dealers?." I think the most appropriate response is to assume you have the intellect of a four year.

2) No one said that drug dealers who look like everybody else are not dangerous. We said we have friends who happen to supply us with drugs. They are not dangerous because they are our FRIENDS. Get it?

When I used to live in Nova Scotia as a teenager, I would have been hard-pressed to NOT know someone who either dealt or was close with someone who did. There, the drug business is much more personalized, as it tends to be run/operated by many independents and families that aren't into any other crimes other than procuring/making/distributing drugs. The drugs were normally pot, hash and acid. The people I knew who sold were fantastic friends, actually, and I never once felt uncomfortable having them as friends. It's not like they were dealers like as portrayed in the movies. These were guys with dead-end/low income jobs (as most jobs in Atlantic Canada fall under that banner) trying to get ahead and only selling to people they knew to make a bit of extra scratch.

I think it's horribly naive to assume that all drug dealers are evil or are in fact selling crack to 11-year-olds. My first three months of my junior year in high school I spent about $500.00 of hard-earned McDonald's money on all of the drugs I mentioned above. I stopped the summer after my junior year to let crap clear out of my system so that I could get into the military, but man, that was a fun year and I was surrounded by good friends!

Of course, once I was in the military, booze became the drug of choice, but hey, they guy who runs the liquor mart isn't a drug dealer, right kids? Right?

Old?

Sure, I get it. But that's just your point of view. I have many friends who have other "firends" who supply them with drugs. They're addicts. I'm not saying you are. But from my perspective, those kinds are friends are the most dangerous type of person imaginable. Because they are friends. And because they supply drugs.

Again, I'm not making any kind of statement about you or others on here, because I don't know you well enough. I'm not making generalizations. I'm just looking at things my own way.

One of my college roommates dealt a bit on the side. It doesn't get any better than that. If any buyers choose to sample in the room, it's common etiquette to pass it around. I got high for free a lot that year.

First, whether or not a friend supplies them with drugs, these people you know who are addicts will find a way to get what they need. That's why they are addicts.

Secondly, a true friend would never let it get that far. If any of my friends knew that one our group had a problem, they would never contribute to that addiction. That's the difference between a drug dealer and a friend who supplies drugs. A drug dealer is just running a business. S/he doesn't give a shit about you. A friend does.

Lastly, you claim you aren't making generalizations, but your previous post suggests otherwise.

That is very judgmental and assumes that we are naive and/or are idiots because we differentiate between friends and drug dealers. Your "right" at the end leads me to believe that you generalize all drug dealers to be dangerous no matter who they are. People in this thread, who have done drugs, are telling you otherwise.

You can continue to believe what you want, but when it comes to drugs, personal responsibility goes a long way. No drug dealer has ever forced someone to buy their drugs. But that's just my opinion. So take it for what you will.

This thread's a prime example of the boards drastically changing a personal viewpoint of mine. I used to be Joe Hardline when it came to hating drugs and drug dealers. Now...I'm pretty much of the mind that it's simply a personal leisure choice which can be utilized quite responsibly. The stuff about supporting the dealers, violence, and ruined lives is the fault of both the stupid, ineffectual "War" on "drugs" (i.e. easy-to-grow, untaxed leisure drugs) and those individuals who choose not to use it responsibly.

It's not for me, but I don't begrudge those who it's for anymore than I begrudge the ATL Chewer friends of mine who smoke and drink.

Sure, I get it. But that's just your point of view. I have many friends who have other "firends" who supply them with drugs. They're addicts. I'm not saying you are. But from my perspective, those kinds are friends are the most dangerous type of person imaginable. Because they are friends. And because they supply drugs.

See, this is where my situation was different, because the people I knew who dealt didn't deal stuff you could get physiologically addicted to. I DEFY anyone to prove that you can get your body hooked on mary-jane. You might, if you smoke enough, become PSYCHOLOGICALLY addicted to pot or hash or acid, but I would think that if that happened you either a) have an addictive personality to begin with or b) have waaaay too much time and money on your hands.

Either way, it was all up to personal choice in my situation, because it was all friends and there was no pressure. If I had wanted to do cocaine or heroin, I would have had to hook up with a stranger in Halifax (the only really major city in Nova Scotia) and try to get some that way. None of the people I knew could get those stronger drugs easily.

Parker, I also ask you this:

What is more dangerous - the lone dealer selling heroin to a few dozen people, or the supermarket chain selling booze to thousands? That people can get all scared about "drugs" and not include alcohol on their list of bad drugs freaks me out.

I remember those days, Micah. I know drugs and alcohol aren't for you. But it's nice to see that just because people opt to use them doesn't mean that they are bad people.

I'm sorry Diva, but you ARE a bad person. Very, very bad.

Yeah, but not because of the drugs.

But they make a convienient scapegoat, no?

Ah man, it's been forever and a day since I was high last. I don't really miss it all that much, but that was such a fun time at the time.

OKAY, time to clarify.

First: My relationship with the subject of drugs (both illegal and legal) is touchy for many reasons, mostly personal one's that I won't bore you with.

Second, I support the legalization of drugs. I support a persons freedom of choice, and that includes what they decide to put into their body. Making drugs illegal and then conducting a "war on drugs" is the most hypocritical system of drug control since prohabition. It gives dealers (the mean, nasty kind---not your friends) reasons to hike up the prices and try to get people addicted so that they'll continue to buy more. To get more people addicted, they'll mix dosages and experiment with drugs that often mix lethally with a human beings system. If drugs were legalized and controlled, this wouldn't be a problem. They would be sold illegally and addiction would decrease. I really believe this.

Third, half of my problem with this thread (and half the reason I was criticizing some of the posts) is the way people are so condecending to others. For example, a couple of people asked if others were "okay" with being that friendly with their dealers.

IMMEDIATLY, people started giving everyone the "drug 101" lecture about how dealers aren't that bad, and that they're their friends, and ohmygod I can't believe how naive you're being."

Okay, stop right there. Isn't it POSSIBLE that these people might have a point? Isn't it POSSIBLE that they WEREN'T thinking that these people are like they're portrayed in the movies? Isn't it POSSIBLE for them that being friends with a drug dealer is not a deseriable relationship? And they were asking you about that? It doesn't mean that they're naive.

Diva, you accuse me of making generalizations, but then you say this:

1) Well if people are gonna be all sarcastic and shit and ask stupid questions like, "Are you comfortable having friends who are drug dealers?." I think the most appropriate response is to assume you have the intellect of a four year.

Don't you think that maybe your looking at things through your own personal experiances, and not even allowing the point of view of others who don't have or don't wish to have friends that are drug dealers to enter your mind? Don't you think that MAYBE just because they don't have/want drug dealing friends, they still know the truth about who your dealers are, what they look like? Maybe they're not so naive. Maybe they just have a different perspective on things. Maybe they're not stupid. Maybe they're not even being sarcastic. But your response leads me to believe that you haven't considerd that.

Ludwig, it's the same with you. You read my posts, cooked up your thoughts on me and gave me a lecture.

Parker, I also ask you this:

What is more dangerous - the lone dealer selling heroin to a few dozen people, or the supermarket chain selling booze to thousands? That people can get all scared about "drugs" and not include alcohol on their list of bad drugs freaks me out.

Ludwig---I agree with you! I think alcohol is the worst drug of all, honestly! Another reason illegal drugs should be legalized, absolutely 100%. But you just ASSUMED that my point of view would be the opposite, didn't you? Why?

Because I said that drug dealers are dangerous?

I told you I wasn't going to bore you with my personal stories, but I'm riled up now, so---sorry, here goes.

My Uncle was killed by coke. He has two children and a widow that he's left behind. He started smoking pot in high school and moved on up the drug ladder. His suppliers were his best friends, friends that my Aunt constantly tried to get him away from. Friends that were at his wedding. One of them took me to the Fair once. We were close. He was close to them.

No, they didn't kill them. They really loved my uncle. But that's the problem. You don't see this as dangerous. I DO. Because friendship is one of the hardest bonds to break. And so is addiction.

Diva, you make a good point in saying that even if they didn't have dealer friends, they'd still get drugs because they're addicts. That's true. But that wasn't my point. My point was simply "Just because they look 'normal,' just because they're your 'friends,' does NOT mean they are not dangerous."

Again, I AM NOT SAYING THAT MEANS THEY ARE DANGEROUS TO YOU!

Michah, I believe that recreational drugs are fine! I agree with you. When people know how to be responsible, all is well and good.

But that does not mean there isn't a danger there. And that's what I'm speaking about.

And anyone who says that there isn't a danger is...making a generalization. And one that I can't swallow.

Forgive this lengthy post. It's an issue I care a lot about, an important one to me. One I think about. Often.

Sorry Parker, but there was nothing in your previous posts that made me think you had any super-negative history with this kind of thing. I judged based on the tone of your posts that you were one of those "drugs are bad, kids" people. Sorry.

In the end, personal responsibility has to be factored into this. I don't believe that it is a 100% universal truth that smoking pot or hash will lead to harder drugs (I am living proof of this). I also don't believe that people will allow their friends to walk all over them 100% of the time. The choices you make with regards to drugs are your own no matter what people say. I am sorry that your uncle died because of drugs. But he died because he chose to do them, not because the friends forced them down his throat. Sure, they may have made it very easy for him to get them, but you can't get instantly hooked on Cocaine anymore than you can get hooked at all on pot.

No matter what the activity, there's going to be people who take it too far. It's unavoidable. It sucks when you know someone in that position, but statistic demand that there's always going to be people who misinterpret what they are doing and kill themselves. So yeah, there's danger in drugs, but then there's people who's lives are ruined over a MMORPG. It's not necessarily the vice, but the person who can't help being addicted.

Like my continuing rant against seatbelts, I believe drugs should be legalized so that we may choose to use them even if a small percentage of people die. But still, sorry to hear of your uncle Parker, it's a shitty situation that happens, but it shouldn't stop the rest of us from choosing such a destiny if we so want it.

I guess I just don't see the point of only blaming the individual. If something's wrong with a society, it's easy to put the blame on one person. The person who gets hurt. I'd rather look at the larger picture. Yeah, I blame my Uncle. But I also blame the Government. I blame the way people overhype the drug culture. I blame people who don't think drugs are a big deal, just because they're not a big deal to themselves (it's like saying alcoholism isn't a big deal, just because your'e not an alcoholic). And I blame myself.

In comparison, it's easy to say that the kids at Columbine High School were psycho, and that's why 15 people were murdered there a few years ago.

It's harder to ask what made them do it. That's when the blame gets shifted around a bit.

Noone should really be blamed. Your uncle had a disorder, he couldn't help it. Dealers are only supplying what the people want and the government IS trying to help, but in a misguided way.

I'm just saying, drugs should be legalized to give the people choice.

And I don't think it's all that hard to understand columbine. Who here hasn't thought about going on a rampage when they've had a bad day? Who here can say they've never thought about doing terrible things just to ease their frustrations as they struggle against the world? It's not easy always making the right decisions and sometimes, just one mistake will fuck it all up. When that time comes, it's easy to make the jump from fantasy to reality, especially when the (fire) power is accessible to you.

Blame is probably too strong of a word, I guess. It's complicated, is all. I do believe that the Government is TRYING to help, I just don't think it's working. I hate the fact that they can't even consider legalizing drugs, despite what history teaches.

I do believe that, in general, people have good intentions.

And yes, I can kinda understand the mentality of the Columbine kids. But I still ask "why?" about it a lot. I think it's important to dig deep about issues. As deep as possible.

I would just like to let you know that the guy who I buy my pot from was my friend BEFORE I even knew he did drugs or sold them. And he doesnt even really deal drugs. He'll sell to his friends, and that's it.

UUUUUUH you got any gum?

We'll keep duplicates just in case.