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Great call backs to the classics...
Back when I first got my "wicked fast" 386 cpu. The first thing i did was go out and buy the games I have always wanted to play. And Phantasmagoria was first on the list.

Played all that weekend and beat it- all 7 disks of it.

Also beat most of Postal and Harvester. Have not thought of Harvester in years...

Could not help but throw my 2 cents in for "extreme" games for my vote for "The Ripper" starring Christopher"The MAN" Walken. Game starts out with Blue Oyster Cults "Don't ZZFear the Reaper" even before "the Stand" solidified it in horror fans hearts.

Later
Tony D
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Great call backs to the classics...
Back when I first got my "wicked fast" 386 cpu. The first thing i did was go out and buy the games I have always wanted to play. And Phantasmagoria was first on the list.

Played all that weekend and beat it- all 7 disks of it.

Also beat most of Postal and Harvester. Have not thought of Harvester in years...

Could not help but throw my 2 cents in for "extreme" games for my vote for "The Ripper" starring Christopher"The MAN" Walken. Game starts out with Blue Oyster Cults "Don't ZZFear the Reaper" even before "the Stand" solidified it in horror fans hearts.

Later
Tony D
I loved the use of "Don't Fear the Reaper" in The Ripper...especially since they integrated the song into one of the puzzles. I thought that was so cool. Damn I love that song. I still have this game, but unfortunately I can't even get it to install in XP, let alone play it. Oh, and Christopher Walken owns! My only real complaint with this game was the constant changing of the discs. Man that got annoying.

Phantasmagoria is another great one. I remember when it came out, I had a friend who worked at Babbage's. He signed it out for me for three days. I played it non-stop (didn't eat, didn't sleep the whole bit) and finished it in those three days. I even had a little time to have some fun with the final showdown. I just thought it was too cool to let the demon catch Adrienne and tear her head in half. I just recently sold my copy, but I made sure to replay it first. It had lost a bit of it's "wow that looks unbelievable!!" flair, but it was still a good solid game. I also loved Phantasmagoria 2 (actually I kind of liked the 2nd one even more), but unfortunately I wasn't able to play it one last time before I sold it (sold them together) because it's not XP compatible and there is no patch available for it.

I had Night Trap for Sega CD and I never understood the fuss over it. I never did finish that one...it was just too damn boring (and stupid). I do understand why it made the list...no one said they had to be good in order to be controversial.

Oh how I regret not playing 7th Guest and 11th Hour. I had them both at one point or another, but never got around to playing them (I have no idea what happened to them either). I'm still kicking myself for that one.
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The furthest I got in Pastamagoria was a slow kid, a barn, and his mother
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Great article Mr. Dark. The puzzle/movie games were the only video games my wife enjoyed playing so we spent countless hours with Gabriel Knight, 11th Hour and Phantasmagoria (our fave).

We also played another game all the way to the end that involved a comic book writer thrown into his own "made-up" world that inlcuded graphic violence and nudity, but I can not remember the name of it. This was probably around 1997 or so and I'm pretty sure we are the only people to ever buy the game. Anyone know it's name?
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Great article Mr. Dark. The puzzle/movie games were the only video games my wife enjoyed playing so we spent countless hours with Gabriel Knight, 11th Hour and Phantasmagoria (our fave).

We also played another game all the way to the end that involved a comic book writer thrown into his own "made-up" world that inlcuded graphic violence and nudity, but I can not remember the name of it. This was probably around 1997 or so and I'm pretty sure we are the only people to ever buy the game. Anyone know it's name?
That would be 'Noctropolis'.

Great little game, nice embedded full-motion video, adult content, good story, nice puzzles...no idea why it wasn't a bigger success.
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I loved the use of "Don't Fear the Reaper" in The Ripper...especially since they integrated the song into one of the puzzles. I thought that was so cool. Damn I love that song. I still have this game, but unfortunately I can't even get it to install in XP, let alone play it. Oh, and Christopher Walken owns! My only real complaint with this game was the constant changing of the discs. Man that got annoying.

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Oh how I regret not playing 7th Guest and 11th Hour. I had them both at one point or another, but never got around to playing them (I have no idea what happened to them either). I'm still kicking myself for that one.
I still have my copy of Ripper, keep saying I'm going to go through it to try and get one of the other potential killers. The disc swapping was a pain, and some of the puzzles were pixel-hunts, but it was solid enough.

As for 7th Guest and 11th Hour, yeah, expect lots of problems getting them to fire under XP. If you need copies, I found them for a good price here:

http://www.cdaccess.com/html/pc/44advent.htm

The good news is that putting together an 'old school' gaming system should be extremely cheap these days. Hell, they were giving away PC's that would run both games here at work the other day.
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That would be 'Noctropolis'.

Great little game, nice embedded full-motion video, adult content, good story, nice puzzles...no idea why it wasn't a bigger success.
Ah, that was it! Thanks.
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The good news is that putting together an 'old school' gaming system should be extremely cheap these days. Hell, they were giving away PC's that would run both games here at work the other day.
That is a good idea. I can't believe I didn't think of that all the times they gave away the old "junk" computers at work.
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My fave horror games have pretty much been Aliens games.

Aliens vs Predator on the PC, its sequel, and the original Alien Trilogy game for the original Playstation.

AvP2 had one of the coolest sequences in a game of recent years. You get to start off as a facehugger in the Alien missions and have to find a suitable host. Then when you burst out as a chestburster, you have another level you spend hiding from the humans, looking for something small to slaughter and feed upon..

VERY COOL.

AvP 2 has a better Alien campaign, but the original is superior in the Marine and Predator missions. The Marine one you spend the entire game feeling doomed. In every step you just KNOW you are gonna die. Im talking massive tension here.

And the original Doom games were pretty scary too, especially for its time. Mostly cheap scares, but it was pretty effective in getting me to jump out of my seat. I just finished replaying Doom 2 using the Jdoom program ( http://www.doomsdayhq.com ) and some of the model and texture packs last week. The gameplay and scares still hold up pretty well today. Though I have played so much Doom over the years it takes a good level design to make me play it in a non analyitical (sp?) manner, carefully figuring out which beastie to shoot, how to shoot it, or how to draw it towards other beasties so they can beat each other up.

Gotta mention the original Quake as well. That game was full of tight scares. Its got people making the game modern system compatible with graphical updates too. http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/ This one is the best, but it requires some SERIOUS horsepower to run. Im on a Geforce 4 4400 with an Athlon 1900 CPU and 512K of ram. Quake runs around 5-15 FPS under Tenebrae. But it makes an already creepy game outright nightmarish. If you have a faster system than mine, its WELL worth DLing the program and digging out your Quake CDROM. Im currently replaying Quake using a different graphics engine upgrade which runs much better on my existing system. Doesnt have the sheer shriek factor of Tenebrae though...

Yeah, I know the games I listed might not even be considered horror by some, but they provide good scares in places and fantastic gameplay, something the top 5 games in the original list really never had for most people.
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That is a good idea. I can't believe I didn't think of that all the times they gave away the old "junk" computers at work.
To play even the last DOS-based games, I figure you'd need a 400mhz processor, a 1gig drive, 256 megs of ram, and an old Soundblaster AWE-32 sound card. (Just trashed one of those myself.)

The video card would be tricky. Many of the newer cards have crappy DOS compatibility or none whatsoever. (I mean, for advance graphics modes, the ones you require a special driver to run.) I'd say any old STB or ATI card would work, though.

Then you'd just need a copy of DOS 6.22 and a decent cheat sheet for correctly loading an autoexec.bat and config.sys to allow enough free memory to run the bigger games.

All told, that's only about a hundred bucks worth of hardware at today's prices, then you'd have a dedicated DOS gaming machine.
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What's the name of that game where your a serial killer taking out camp counselers that's coming out? I forget...
Campfire. I haven't heard a thing since the Corner had it, though.
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Actually, the last games from the days of DOS didnt need more than a 150 mhz CPU to run, a Pentium Pro or Pentium MMX. Anything over 200 might actually be TOO FAST to run most of the older DOS games. (Unless you mess with that SLOMO proggie, which still doesn't help everything.)

There are a couple ways to get old games to run on new systems.

Since I am a serious game geek, Ill list the basics:

1: Emulation. This one is kind of obvious though. There are programs out there to make your modern PC think its an old computer, or even an arcade machine! From Trash 80s to Commodore 64s to those crap Sinclair Spectrums you UK folk seemed to adore, all the way up to Playstation One! The faster your PC, the better most of these programs will work. Many of them, like ePSXe, CCS64, and Zsnes are BETTER than running your old games on their native system! From 3d graphics improvement on your PS1 games, to Save States and pixel smoothing on your SNES to Warp speed modes on the C64, it makes all your old favorites seem like whole new games in some cases! Virtually every old bit of hardware has been emulated, and many of these programs will run your own legitimate games, especially the CD ROM based ones! Its the only way I ever managed to complete Terminator for the Sega CD, a game that took 2 hours to beat, but had no save locations OR continues. And I usually died in the last level or two of the game! There is also an emulator called DOSBOX that runs old DOS games, but its mostly the early 386 and older games. It really can't do later games than that right now, both due to the speed of the emulator, and the protected mode programs of the later era being a bit more complicated.

Some choice programs in this category are:
Dosbox (DOS PC programs up to circa 1991-92)
Zsnes (Super Nintendo/Super Famicom)
MAME (Almost every arcade game ever made)
VICE (Commodore 64/128)
Magic Engine (Turbografx 16/PC Engine.)
WinUAE (Amiga Computers. Generally Amiga vets only though)
ePSXe (Playstation 1. )
FCE Ultra (NES/Famicom)

2: Windows 9x compatibility mode in XP. I still use 98 just to keep with my old games. The only thing 98 doesnt run these days is those pay for money music downloads services like Napster and iTunes. Their loss, and I prefer MP3s anyhow. Many games with some twiddling will work this way, and you should be able to drop to DOS and run some batch files to play your older titles. Some DOS proggies will run under 9X anyhow, and there is a program to slow down DOS proggies in Windows as well, which is handy for those old games that never had a framerate limiter put in.

3: Dual/Multiboot systems: I forget how to do it, but its supposedly pretty easy to set up your PC to dual boot to Linux, Win 98, Win XP, or DOS. With a couple programs to set up your USB devices to run under DOS, and MOSLO to slow some of the old programs down, you should be ok.

4: Retrogame collections: This is more common on the consoles than the PC (since PC users all prefer the usually free and more accurate if not so easy to use emulators like I mentioned above), but there are plenty of packs FULL of old classic games made to run on your modern systems. Some games have sound and speed issues, but its legitimate and not piracy, and most collections are sub 20 dollar US prices. The problem is most liscensed games or obscure titles never get this treatment for the most part, and they keep adding 2 or 3 games to newer releases of older Retrogame collections, like the current Midway Arcade Treasures, which is just 2 or 3 older collections with a handful of new games ported to the modern aged systems. Its still nice and legal, even if just to buy then go play an emulated version of the same game. For you horror fans (well thats what we are here for, right?), things aren't quite so rosy. Not too many horror games are on these sorts of collections. Still, if we support these projects, more will come..

5: Remakes/Fan Upgrades: Like my post above, people are updating the engines of old classic games to run shiney and pretty on modern systems. Some are professional remixes ala the Gamecube Resident Evil remake, but most are free or super cheap fan made programs. For horror folks this area seems to be your best bet, thanks to ID Software giving away the source code to their older games to let fans keep their old stuff alive. Though all the ID Game upgrades require the original games to play. (No big for me, as I own every core ID game up to Quake 2. ) There are also many games inspired by the old favorites with fans making their own sequels or clear "me too!" versions of them. From Doom, to all of Sierra and Lucasarts' adventure games and so forth, a little looking around the Net can garner you some great stuff. Im STILL finding things that blow my mind. Sourceforge.net is a great storehouse of fanprojects of this sort, not to mention computerized versions of your favorite tabletop games too..

6: Ebay. If you have a little money to burn and risk, you can find pretty much any old game for sale, and the hardware to run it on. At a price. And the potential for the things to NOT WORK, or require a little TLC to bring back up to spec. It can be fun and addictive though. The videogame version of buying and fixing old junker cars if you will. Just look out that you don't find a few hundred other things you want too!

Ok.. that ought to help folks on their path towards old game enlightenment. I didn't put any links down since I figure most of you know how to use Google, and the search and discovery is half the fun..
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Gotta mention the original Quake as well. That game was full of tight scares. Its got people making the game modern system compatible with graphical updates too. http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/ This one is the best, but it requires some SERIOUS horsepower to run. Im on a Geforce 4 4400 with an Athlon 1900 CPU and 512K of ram. Quake runs around 5-15 FPS under Tenebrae. But it makes an already creepy game outright nightmarish. If you have a faster system than mine, its WELL worth DLing the program and digging out your Quake CDROM. Im currently replaying Quake using a different graphics engine upgrade which runs much better on my existing system. Doesnt have the sheer shriek factor of Tenebrae though...
I can't thank you enough for the Tenebrae link! I already had jDoom, but I see that it has been updated again since I last tried it.

The Tenebrae engine is extremely impressive. I haven't had any problems playing it as of yet and my system specs are very close to yours.

If you know of any other engines or mods worth getting please let me know. I'd love to break out all of these old scary games again for the first time.
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