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Near Dark

post #1 of 34
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I just got this on dvd and saw it for the first time and I loved it. The whole concept of a modern western with vampires works great and the mythology of vampires is handled well. Cinematography is beautiful and Bigelow directs like a pro, even though this was the first movie she directed alone. Especially the bar scene is wonderful. Bill Paxton seems to be fucking crazy in this and Lance Henriksen is a god among men. Theres two great stories on the making of documentary about how Henriksen scared the shit out of a hitchhiker and a cop by staying in character on his freetime. Just based on this movie I'd love to see a Preacher movie directed by Bigelow.

It's finger licking gooood!
post #2 of 34
It's one of those films someone handed me and said "you must watch this if you want to be cool." He was right. Excellent movie.
post #3 of 34
Adrian Pasdar's career went down the shitter after this one.
post #4 of 34
I think the love that's snowballed for this film is unjust. I remember watching it back in 1987 when it was still unknown and thinking it was merely OK at best. By the time the DVD arrived last year it had become something of a cult classic, with many references to it being "the best vampire film of all time" etc. I've since had a second viewing and I stand by my 1987 opinion. It's a decent effort with some seriously bad acting and some truly hokey situations. Not worthy of the praise at all if you ask me.
post #5 of 34
SUCKS. No pun intended.
post #6 of 34
just saw this film myself

totally took my by surprise.. way cool.

my only beef was the truck explosion .. it looked fishy..
but i guess for a low budget flick like this its allowable.

paxton just kicks ass..

i gotta watch point break again.. bigelow really had it workin didnt she. (i aint seen widowmaker , but i heard it wasnt so hot)
post #7 of 34
Paxton was cool, as where some of the situations involving sunlight. Other than that....bleh.
Its just ok; not the "ultimate vampire movie" I was expecting when I bought it blind.

- Fate
post #8 of 34
shit
just re-watched Strange Days

what a kick ass ride. hardly dated at all..

kathryn bigelow and cameron were made for each other..
cant believe they actually broke up.

im gonna catch Point Break, and truly make this bigelow week.
post #9 of 34
Yeah, NEAR DARK is a really neat modern vampire movie, one of the five best, I'd dare to say. Then again, how many really great modern vamp movies are there?
post #10 of 34
the last act of this movie is shit. Curing vampirism with a blood transfusion? What the fuck. too bad. It could have been great
post #11 of 34
movie was well acted but f'in tedious. even Lance couldn't rescue it.
post #12 of 34
Yeah, there are a few plot holes (the blood transfusion thing is just silly) and the explosions are so 80ies it hurts but I dug the cinematography, the great score and the Sex God that is Lance Hendriksen. It's not easy to make a decent vampire movie with at least 10 000 mostly shitty ones already existing but this one pulled it off. Not great or "the ultimate vampire movie" but definitely above average.
post #13 of 34
How can you deny the sheer force of a Tangerine Dream film score?
post #14 of 34
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Originally posted by Gruber
How can you deny the sheer force of a Tangerine Dream film score?
Sarcasm?

I thought the score was effective and atmospheric.
post #15 of 34
I'll have to listen to the music again.

best thing to come from Tangerine Dream was the Street Hawk stuff.
post #16 of 34
Folks,

Finally getting around to getting this on DVD, but I'm unsure which version to get, the one released in 2002 or the one released in 2004. Looks like the earlier release has extras but I'm more concerned about the transfer. Which would you guys suggest? Many thanks!
post #17 of 34
I'm not sure what year my version was released, it's the two-disc edition in nice packaging. The transfer is good, and it's probably the best it's gonna get for a movie that's pretty murky to begin with.

Really good film. Not one of the best things ever, but a very satisfying, atmospheric quasi-horror flick with some really great performances.
post #18 of 34
Well I have the 2002 version and it's fantastic for picture quality and extras. Im not sure what the 2004 version is like but I can't imagine there being a double dip thats worth it. Probably just a reprinting most likely with less extras.
post #19 of 34
Thanks guys. I'll make sure to get the 2-disc.
post #20 of 34

Damn. Haven't had a vampire movie kick my ass like this in a *long* time. Laundry list!:

 

-Dear Stephenie Meyer: THIS is how you do vampire romance. You acknowledge the fucking sadness of it. Mae feels awful about turning Caleb, and the life is shown to not be an easy one. But we still buy into the romance because the acting by Adrian Pasdar (a long way from Heroes) and Jenny Wright (what the hell happened to her?) is so good, and the screenplay knows how essentially fucked up this relationship is.

 

-Lance Henriksen is the goddamn MAN in this movie. He always is, sure, but he really gets to (ahem) sink his teeth into the role. Bill Paxton and Josh Miller similarly steal their scenes as Severen and Homer, Paxton in particular getting some of the best lines. Jenette Goldstein rounds out the group by being the right mix of sexy, trashy and creepy.

 

-Avoiding the word "vampire" doesn't feel as awkward as it could have been. I was also surprised we never saw fangs, especially since there are a couple neckbites. Instead, guns, knives and glass are used to draw blood instead. It's much nastier and dirtier, which fits the 80s Western feel. Sunlight as the main weapon against the gang was also an effective measure; bringing in crosses, stakes, holy water, garlic, etc. would've just muddied the waters. OK, Severen gets blown the fuck up, but I think that would put just about anything down.

 

-You would never know this was Kathryn Bigelow's directorial debut. She directs with an astonishingly assured hand, crafting classic sequences like the redneck bar or the hotel shootout through sheer atmosphere and tension. My favorite single shot in the movie has to be our "heroes" silhouetted against the car lights, surrounded by fog, preparing to chow down. Such a great image. I even found the Tangerine Dream score effective.

 

-Yeah, that ending is perhaps a little too convenient. I'm OK with the idea of treating vampirism as a blood virus, and it does show that Caleb's transfusion takes a while. But having Mae get one too seems almost cheap, especially with how complicated things were before this. It doesn't ruin the film, no, but it's definitely the weakest part. It helps that the final showdowns are great. I even felt a little bad for the deaths of Homer, Jesse and Diamondback. Severen was a total asshole, so I'm not sad about him. But Homer looks and sounds so pathetic crying after Sarah, while Jesse and Diamondback seem determined to go out with some measure of dignity before they blow up.

 

-I like the little humanizing moments like the card game, or Jesse and Diamondback reminiscing about when they met. Sure, they're shown to basically enjoy their feeding, but hey, you might as well try to make the best of things when you're stuck with a crap situation.

 

Next up on my Bigelow watchlist (I've only seen The Hurt Locker [fucking fantastic] and this): Point Break! *fires gun in the air while yelling with deep anguish*

post #21 of 34

Yeah for a werewolf movie, Near Dark is a pretty great vampire one.

post #22 of 34
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Yeah for a werewolf movie, Near Dark is a pretty great vampire one.

 

A curious statement. Why would you say it's more like a werewolf movie?

post #23 of 34

Rough western vampires have become a lot more common place these days than they were when I saw Near dark as a lad, and back then it always struck me you could change them from vampires to werewolves and the story and aesthetic would seem more apt.

 

Nowadays, post stuff like Preacher and American Vampire, it seems more of a fit, but Near Dark was a real shift in tone for vampires in pop culture at the time.

post #24 of 34

I need to watch Near Dark again sometime. Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton delivered the goods.

post #25 of 34

Ah, I see. Come to think of it, have there been any werewolf westerns? That does seem like a neat mix.

post #26 of 34
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Ah, I see. Come to think of it, have there been any werewolf westerns? That does seem like a neat mix.

 

I was working on an aussie one a million years ago, but no I don't think so, not in movies. Comics yes, movies I honestly can't think of any.

 

Seems like a crushingly obvious genre mashup to me personally.

post #27 of 34

Does Skinwalkers count? I seem to recall that having kind of a modern "desert gang" look. But then, I also heard it wasn't very good.

post #28 of 34
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Does Skinwalkers count? I seem to recall that having kind of a modern "desert gang" look. But then, I also heard it wasn't very good.

 

I heard it called a poor mans Near Dark a few times ironically.

post #29 of 34

Ouch. Guess we're still waiting for the great werewolf western, then.

post #30 of 34

Not if The Lone Ranger has anything to do with it!

post #31 of 34
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Next up on my Bigelow watchlist (I've only seen The Hurt Locker [fucking fantastic] and this): Point Break! *fires gun in the air while yelling with deep anguish*

 

 

I watched K-19:The Widowmaker and it failed to live down to its rep as "worst movie evvvuuurrr"; Ford's phoned-in work with a shaky Russian accent aside, I thought it was OK. 

post #32 of 34

K-19 is not that bad. Its not great, but worth the look. Ford is the weak link sadly, I just wanted him yell "Get off my sub!" and kick Sarsgaard out into the Atlantic.

post #33 of 34

I revisited Near Dark the other night. Finger lickin' good! I wish a prequel had been made about how Jesse became a vampire and turned Severen, Diamondback, Mae, and Homer.

post #34 of 34
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I revisited Near Dark the other night. Finger lickin' good! I wish a prequel had been made about how Jesse became a vampire and turned Severen, Diamondback, Mae, and Homer.

 

I wish Kathryn Bigelow would revisit Near Dark.  Everyone would still be perfect in it.  I love that movie. 

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