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What if George Romero has Running Zombies in his next Living Dead movie?

post #1 of 38
Thread Starter 
This isn't about Dawn of the Dead 2004, so I put this question in a different thread.

With all the animate zombies in recent movies, like Dawn 2004 and 28 Days Later (I know, I know...they are not zombies, but give a little and allow this movie to be used in this example, please)

and all the outcry about running or jumping or screaming zombies not being "real" zombies...

How would you feel, if Romero, The Godfather of Zombie movies, made another Living Dead movie...

and had animate, active, or running zombies?

Would people crying "foul" still be displeased?
post #2 of 38
the only reason zombies are running in movies now-a-days is because the times haved changed



I doubt we'll ever see another shambling entity like MM again or zombies that remember that their tissue is rotting away.


the day a zombie can out run me will be the day I grow wings out of my ass and fly to Mars
post #3 of 38
I thought he had running zombies already.

Dawn of the Dead, the 2 little kid zombies ran.
post #4 of 38
the muscle tissue in children are more healthy and thus less prone to rot
post #5 of 38
That's actually a good plausible explanation.

Doesn't change the fact...........they still RAN
post #6 of 38
Yu-Gi-Oh was on t.v.
post #7 of 38
LOL

Doesn't change the fact...........they still RAN
post #8 of 38
ENOUGH OF THIS BLASTOFME!!!!!

I HAVE WORKINGS TO BE DOINGS
post #9 of 38
what if romero MAKES a 4th dead film?!?!? That doesn't look like it's going to be happening any time soon.

But if it has running zombies I'll be a little confused. I'd still go see it though and pick up the dvd. I wouldn't loose sleep over it.
post #10 of 38
*bangs head on table*
post #11 of 38
jah


I would think that ones' equilibrium would be the first to go upon death


and that puts running right out
post #12 of 38



"I REFUSE TO LET THIS HORSE DIE!!!!"
post #13 of 38
First off the 2 kids ran. That's my stance I'm sticking to it.

Now if I stole bunnymuds tacos, then ran away, while bunnymud chases me with a chainsaw, I have a heart attack. There is NO reason that if my corpse reanimates it could not get up and run after aforementioned stolen tacos. They body is still in good shape it can still move until decay sets in.

And if you wanted to get REAL techincal about it, a zombie probably couldn't even walk, much less shamble. The second it stood all the blood in the body would begin to pool at its feet, making them greatly oversized and almost unuseable.

And damn I got way too much time on my hands today.......
post #14 of 38
Do we have to have this conversation every few days?


Dude, I agree with you that I don't really care if zombies run or not. I think anyone who finds it that big a deal is probably too pedantic and has WAY too much time on their hands. I mean, untill Romero came along, voodo zombies were more or less the only zombies. I bet you most of the people complaining now, had they been around then, would have bitched and complained about Romero's new interpretation, and how the only real zombies are voodo zombies. They fear change and development. Dan O Bannon zombies run. It's just they dont like the idea of something that works being changed, don't like risk takers. We have to forgive that. They don't get that horror, and genre in general, is flexible enough to allow change. But that's there loss. Let's not waste time worrying about what they think is real and unacceptable with fictional creatures, lets just enjoy any zombies, running or whatever. It really is their loss.
post #15 of 38
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Now if I stole bunnymuds tacos, then ran away, while bunnymud chases me with a chainsaw, I have a heart attack. There is NO reason that if my corpse reanimates it could not get up and run after aforementioned stolen tacos. They body is still in good shape it can still move until decay sets in.


you'd steal my taco's??
post #16 of 38
Frankenstien's monster was a zombie


and he couldn't run for shit
post #17 of 38
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you'd steal my taco's??
Only if the whole secnario played out and my corpse would reanimate so I could prove the point.

Other than that, no.
post #18 of 38
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Originally posted by bunnymud wants tacos



"I REFUSE TO LET THIS HORSE DIE!!!!"
Not only was that post so funny it's post of the year, it is so true about this whole debate.
post #19 of 38
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Frankenstien's monster was a zombie
He could in the book couldn't he?
post #20 of 38
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Originally posted by RalphWiggum
Only if the whole secnario played out and my corpse would reanimate so I could prove the point.

Other than that, no.


well...then...uhhh....while you were down, letting the whole undead thing happening, I'd pop a cap in your peanut and gently pick up my stolen tacos



THERE IS NO WIN FOR YOU!!!!
post #21 of 38
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Originally posted by RalphWiggum
He could in the book couldn't he?

There was a book????
post #22 of 38
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There was a book????
I don't know, maybe.

I can't answer now, there's a cap in my peanut.
post #23 of 38
If Romero wanted to have running zombies in the next Dead film, I say go for it. I trust George's judgement.
post #24 of 38
Thread Starter 
What is...is.
What shall be...shall be.

I agree Firefly...

I'm so sick of the "debate" that I made this thread to really see if anyone's views would change when faced with this possible scenario.


I guess for some, change and progress are frightening things.

Now, imagine all this renewed if they remake "Day of the Dead" or "The Beyond"...
post #25 of 38
Day of the Dead remake... I'm fucking scared about who they could pick to play Rhodes (if he's in this remake- if they even make one). I don't care about anything else.
post #26 of 38
Was there a line in the original "Night of the Living Dead" where Ben said that he saw the zombies "Chase down a truck"? If so, that might suggest that there are some running zombies in Romeros's vision even though you don't get to see them.
post #27 of 38
If the zombies are fast enough to outrun motor vehicles, then we're all fucked. What will they do next, grow wings out of their asses and fly or maybe teleport?
post #28 of 38
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by Inky Binky
Was there a line in the original "Night of the Living Dead" where Ben said that he saw the zombies "Chase down a truck"? If so, that might suggest that there are some running zombies in Romeros's vision even though you don't get to see them.
BINGO!!! Good call!

Either they ran, or that was one slow fucking truck.
post #29 of 38
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Originally posted by thedudeabides
BINGO!!! Good call!

Either they ran, or that was one slow fucking truck.

Maybe the truck was being pulled by mules.
post #30 of 38
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Maybe the truck was being pulled by mules
An Amish truck?
post #31 of 38
Maybe the zombies in the remake walk sometimes too but we don't see that. In the commercials it says, 'The dead will walk the Earth' but they are just showing us the ones that run like Olympic sprinters. Yeah, that's it. Case closed.
post #32 of 38
Bill Hinzman was about the fastest Romero zombie I've seen and he didn't run. He lurched. He just seemed to lean forward and let his weight give him momentum.

But anyway...

Romero would never put running zombies into his films (and I wouldn't be suprised if the geniuses at Fox haven't suggested this to him already, many times) and I'll tell you why...

Romero's zombies have always represented the threat of leaving things unchecked. They can be dealt with, but we refuse to do so until its too late because of whatever trappings we've set for ourselves. This is why in each of Romero's zombie films, the zombies always end up swarming the place. Its enevitable that our actions or inactions are going to doom us.

Running zombies, and/or zombies that turn instantly, represent a terror that is beyond our control. Something we can hate without hating ourselves because there was nothing we could do about it. We were never given the chance to deal with the situation since it ballooned almost instantly so there's no sense of society's responsibility for its own downfall. These monsters, unlike Romero's, are almost completely externalized.

So, since Running Zombies(tm) serve quite a different thematic purpose, I feel it would be out of step with Romero's consistent vision of what the living dead represent in his films to incorporate them into any future Romero zombie outings. They not only affect style, but also story and symbolism - something Romero has deftly defended in the past.
post #33 of 38
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Originally posted by cashflag
Bill Hinzman was about the fastest Romero zombie I've seen and he didn't run. He lurched. He just seemed to lean forward and let his weight give him momentum.

But anyway...

Romero would never put running zombies into his films (and I wouldn't be suprised if the geniuses at Fox haven't suggested this to him already, many times) and I'll tell you why...

Romero's zombies have always represented the threat of leaving things unchecked. They can be dealt with, but we refuse to do so until its too late because of whatever trappings we've set for ourselves. This is why in each of Romero's zombie films, the zombies always end up swarming the place. Its enevitable that our actions or inactions are going to doom us.

Running zombies, and/or zombies that turn instantly, represent a terror that is beyond our control. Something we can hate without hating ourselves because there was nothing we could do about it. We were never given the chance to deal with the situation since it ballooned almost instantly so there's no sense of society's responsibility for its own downfall. These monsters, unlike Romero's, are almost completely externalized.

So, since Running Zombies(tm) serve quite a different thematic purpose, I feel it would be out of step with Romero's consistent vision of what the living dead represent in his films to incorporate them into any future Romero zombie outings. They not only affect style, but also story and symbolism - something Romero has deftly defended in the past.
I agree with what you're saying. It's on point as far as Romero's zombie mythos goes. But... I find the running zombies to be very fucking scary, dawggie!! Sure the underlying commentary in a "dashing zombie" film would be somewhat ignored, what with a swarm of "Olympic undead" after you, it would put all the "character development" aside and concentrate on the action aspects of it. But whatever George Romero decides to do in his new film....Whether he goes with runners or shamblers....I can safely say that his loyal fans will embrace his newest addition to the "DEAD" series!!
post #34 of 38

Return of the living Dead anyone?

Just watched this on cable tonight. LOTS of zombies hauling ass and scampering about. Fast zombies are not so new are they? and for my tastes, slow zombies are boring
post #35 of 38
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Originally posted by Inky Binky
Maybe the truck was being pulled by mules.

... not mules, but dead horses
post #36 of 38
Thread Starter 
I'm so fucking suprised that this "debate" has been going on for so long!

I'm just happy to have zombies.

I don't care if they walk or run or dance the Jig.

I'm just happy to have more zombies.

I do think the shambling zombies can represet the silent masses, or the ever-growing problem of "_______" (fill in the blank) that if ignored enough can take over...

And

The fast zombies can represent a problem that spirals out of control, and no matter how prepared we think we are for an emergency, we will find our selves at the mercy of forces we can not control...



OR

we can just not bother looking for symbolism, because after all times change and the "message" that zombies had back then change because times change.

The early Romero zombies could be harbingers of a race war, or consumerism, or people not working together...but now that whole message could change.



I'd much rather, for now, not look for symbolism that might not be there, but enjoy the antics of dead people with unsatiable hungers.
post #37 of 38
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Originally posted by thedudeabides
I'd much rather, for now, not look for symbolism that might not be there, but enjoy the antics of dead people with unsatiable hungers.
Or go out for a meal and come home with an empty stomach? No thanks.

Romero's movies, god bless them, can be enjoyed on multiple levels. The surface level always delivers and although you may not consciously digest the deeper meanings, its usually absorbed none-the-less, contributing to that sense of contentment. Its the kinda thing that will bring you back to it 25 years later.

But anyway, ahhh, Shambling Zombies vs Running Zombies and the question of whether or not Romero could ever love an RZ... well, with RZ's, there never could be a Bub, no arc to the dead movies and no vision. RZ's are a slap in the face - a violent shock that rapidly dispates. SZ are a testical squeeze - a suffocating ache that lingers long enough for you to come to your senses after the numbness has worn off and despair.
post #38 of 38
Thread Starter 
As times change, so do the trappings of the modern horror movie.
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