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post #1 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:43pm
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According to this story, Legolas is being wooed to be the next Bond...what do you think?


My apologies if it's shit...I'm just surprised it hasn't been discussed yet.
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post #2 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:45pm
I love Orlando, but Bond is an alpha male role. Legolas is just too young.
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post #3 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:51pm
Bond Begins?

Maybe they're thinking of starting the character over... seems to be working for Batman's buzz.
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post #4 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:53pm
I thought they couldn't find a scrawnier, poncier 007 than Brosnan...but they seemed to have proven me wrong.

I'd put "being punched by Orlando Bloom" somewhere after "being pummeled with a soggy waffle" on my "Things that Hurt List"
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post #5 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:54pm
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The last few Bond films weren't busts. They don't need to start afresh or distance themselves from Brosnan's work.
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post #6 of 87
3/19/04 at 1:55pm
I agree that he's too young.

Go with someone like Jeremy Northam, I say!
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post #7 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:03pm
I tire of hearing how perfect Clive Owen is for the role just because he looked good in a tux in Croupier. After his Down With Love role, McGregor would be ace.
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post #8 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:06pm
"Maybe they're thinking of starting the character over... seems to be working for Batman's buzz."

I remember hearing a rumor about that around the the time Britney Spears was mentioned as a Bond girl. Bloom starting the character over with Britney at his side? I hope it doesn't happen, but I guess it is not completely out of the realm of possibility.
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post #9 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:08pm
effeminate
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post #10 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:08pm
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Originally posted by Crash-Man
The last few Bond films weren't busts. They don't need to start afresh or distance themselves from Brosnan's work.
they don't? it's not all about box office. the bond formula has been tired for years. the producers know this. they don't want to find out AFTER they spend 120 million that audiences just can't get it up for another installment. they have to try and stay ahead of the game. I am not saying this is what they're going to do, but it's a reasonable guess if bloom is cast. the guy is 10 to 15 years younger than the age we associate with bond and looks 20 years younger. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand given hollywood's penchant for copying other things that are popular or have some success/buzz surrounding them.
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post #11 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:11pm
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Originally posted by Crash-Man
The last few Bond films weren't busts. They don't need to start afresh or distance themselves from Brosnan's work.
Brosnan is about the only thing right about the last three Bond movies. An back-to-basics overhaul is most definitely required - they just need someone who can be convincingly dangerous. The thing EON seem to have forgotten (or chosen to gloss over) is that Bond is a vicious and sometimes sadistic bastard who just happens to exude a suave exterior.
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post #12 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:17pm
Exactly. While his movies had other problems, at least the Timothy Dalton Bond had that gritty realness you speak of, Dan, in SPADES. Brosnan has the smoothness and the capability for the menace, but they never give it to him. It took a turn in The Tailor of Panama for me to see it, which is sad.

Start the films over, give us a Bond with balls, and forget that Orlando Bloom was ever mentioned for the role.
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post #13 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:20pm
Finally, my prayers for a live action James Bond Jr. film are being answered.
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post #14 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:56pm
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Originally posted by Micah Robinson
While his movies had other problems, at least the Timothy Dalton Bond had that gritty realness you speak of, Dan, in SPADES.
License to Kill was on TV the other week, and it's true. Connery and Dalton are the only actors to even resemble the Bond from the books.

Yes, he's a smooth operator and chicks dig him, but he's first and foremost a SPY. He's supposed to live in a world of constant suspicion and peril. And when the shit goes down, you have to believe he'll act with swift and decisive violence.

Ironically, I think The Bourne Identity captured that paradigm better than any Bond film in recent memory.
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post #15 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:57pm
License to Drive was on tv the other week too.
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post #16 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:58pm
We need another Bond movie about as bad as we need another Trek movie. They had a good run, leave them be. If it were up to me, I wouldn't let the brain trust behind the Bond series tackle a sequel to Lizzy McGuire.
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post #17 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:59pm
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Originally posted by Kevin Matchstick
License to Drive was on tv the other week too.
Billy Ocean is a Man-God!!!
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post #18 of 87
3/19/04 at 2:59pm
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Originally posted by Kevin Matchstick
License to Drive was on tv the other week too.
Either Corey would make an AWESOME Bond.
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post #19 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:01pm
The had a bond, but it was broken.
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post #20 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:03pm
Bloom is an awful choice for Bond. He's too young, too skinny, and talks like he is perpetually out of breath. He is not suave and has no screen presence. Fuck Orlando Bloom. Stupid fucking Legolas. Stupid fucking Blackburn. Stupid fucking Will Turner.
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post #21 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:06pm
Orlando Bloom might be okay, I kind of dig the idea of a gay Bond.
Seriously, I'd like to see an R-Rated Bond w/ Brosnan or whoever, turning in a seedier performance as 007 (like Brosnan's Andy Osnard from "Tailor of Panama").
If you want to re-invigorate the franchise, don't go young...go dirty!
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post #22 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:07pm
Does he have Disney World in him, is what I want to know.
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post #23 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:10pm
When are people gonna figure out that this guy is just okay?
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post #24 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:11pm
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Originally posted by Sean Bateman
We need another Bond movie about as bad as we need another Trek movie. They had a good run, leave them be.

Here, here. If anything, they should follow Toho's lead and let Mr. Bond hang loose for 10, maybe 15 years. Unfortunately, we'll be seeing another Brosnan-on-autopilot exercise with no real excitement or life to speak of, most likely involving a satellite and a giant laser, theme song by Sixpence None the Richer.
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post #25 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:13pm
Orlando Jones would make a KICK ASS Bond!
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post #26 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:13pm
When Godleneye hit it was a like a pop culture bomb went off. It was great to see the character back, and different. Then, they fucked up over and over and over and over again. Also, fuck Vic Armstrong.
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post #27 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:23pm
Yeah, looking back, Goldeneye (while disliked by many) really should've been the last outing. Unfortunately, the phrase "fucked up" doesn't quite go far enough to accurately reflect the current state of the franchise.

Like JacknifeJohnny said, go dirty. Even go low-tech (and fly in the face of tradition). So many great possibilities; Bond needs to be a badass once more, but hypothesizing about it is just an exercise in frustration I suppose.
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post #28 of 87
3/19/04 at 3:44pm
Orli Bloom is an idiot choice for Bond. He's basically the exact opposite of what Bond is.

I hear rumors about Hugh Jackman -- he'd be an interesting choice, IMHO.

And of course, my main choice...

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I tire of hearing how perfect Clive Owen is for the role just because he looked good in a tux in Croupier.
That's not the main reason why Clive's a good choice. He's got a great steely edge to him, that great sense of cool unflappability, AND he looks good in a tux.

Seriously, watch any of the BMW shorts to get a sense of him in action -- they're basically mini-Bond flicks to begin with.
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post #29 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:08pm
I've seen pretty much everything Clive has been in. I just don't see him as Bond. He's cool and magnetic, but to me he's just not Bond.

Jackman would be interesting. Hell, I thought Rupert Everett would be interesting.

But not Bloom.
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post #30 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:09pm
I agree 100% Dave.

I'd go with Jackman. But I've always thought Ewan could pull it off.
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post #31 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:30pm
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Originally posted by Sean Bateman
Also, fuck Vic Armstrong.
Why? He's just doing his job as dictated by the producers and the scripts, and doing it damn well. Without him, the current movies would be even more lifeless than they are.
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post #32 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:34pm
Bateman, you have one seriously sorry attitude at the moment.
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post #33 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:46pm
Matters fuck-all if they don't get a good script.

Bronson could have been a great Bond. It's a shame his films were written so poorly. It was never Bronson's fault, and no perfect actor will be a good Bond until the people on top let a talented crew put it together.
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post #34 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:50pm
I wish Bronson had played Bond. That would've been something.
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post #35 of 87
3/19/04 at 4:58pm
"Mother Russia and her street gang killed his family. Now they're going to pay. Charles Bronson is serving up revenge, shaken not stirred."
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post #36 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:01pm
About the only thing I would have had against Bronson playing Bond is the fact he's American. I think they should always get somebody from one of the Britannia related countries because nationality is one of the core aspects of the Bond character.

I'm aware that any good actor can impersonate other nationalities, but it just wouldn't be as authentic.

Though seeing as he's dead I guess it's all moot.
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post #37 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:06pm
The only thing AGAINST Orlando Bloom playing Bond would be his age, I think. However, the effeminate thing? TELL ME Peirce Brosnon isn't effeminate and I will laugh in your face.

Seriously.
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post #38 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:07pm
I don't think Pierce Brosnan is that effeminate.

*awaits prala's laughtrack*
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post #39 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:13pm
No, he's suave. There's a difference.

He can grow a beard convincingly, Legolas can not.

Legolas would be the actor to choose to play Bond if you wanted to please the women, but last I checked, women weren't exactly the target audience for James Bond movies.
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post #40 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:17pm
What have you all seen Hugh Jackman in that makes you think he'd be a good Bond? That is not to say he couldn't do a servicable job... but he's bland as all hell. Maybe I am the only guy who thinks his Wolverine has absolutely no true edge or sense of mystery about him, but to me he just seems like he's... playing at it, I guess. Course I've disliked both X-Men movies, and never had much invested in the source material, so that could be part of it. But Hugh just doesn't seem to hold any kind of special talent or magnetism, in my eyes. EwMac could be a fun Bond... but if they were to go with a darker tone, (the only way I'd be remotely interested in another one, incidentally) I'd rather have somebody else.
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post #41 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:32pm
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Brosnan is not effeminate. Not in the least in my opinion.



I'm going to open myself to a floodgate of flames and posts insulting my intelligence and tastes by saying openly that I enjoyed Die Another Day.

A lot.

It was fun, funny, smooth and action-packed.


That said, I've only watched one of the pre-Bosnan Bonds I enjoyed it. I realise that this new Bond is a whole new ballgame but still...I liked DAD.

I liked Goldeneye too.



Sorry.



Bloom as Bond sucks btw. Jackman really would be interesting.
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post #42 of 87
3/19/04 at 5:47pm
Jackman's character from Kate & Leopold as Bond would be... interesting (or something). I think that's the only way I could support his casting. If you're going to go with Bloom, who couldn't help but come across as foppish, or at the very least, delicate, then you might as well cast the time-travelling Jackman in his place.

All kidding aside, I just don't think Bloom fits. It's not a miscast to the extent of putting Jason Statham in the role, but it just doesn't fit. Someone like Jeremy Northam, moovyphreak's suggestion, is dead-on. He's not quite a "white van man" but at the same time not a waif either.
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post #43 of 87
3/19/04 at 6:14pm
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Originally posted by Crash-Man
Brosnan is not effeminate. Not in the least in my opinion.



I'm going to open myself to a floodgate of flames and posts insulting my intelligence and tastes by saying openly that I enjoyed Die Another Day.

A lot.

It was fun, funny, smooth and action-packed.


That said, I've only watched one of the pre-Bosnan Bonds I enjoyed it. I realise that this new Bond is a whole new ballgame but still...I liked DAD.

I liked Goldeneye too.



Sorry.



Bloom as Bond sucks btw. Jackman really would be interesting.
Don't be sorry, I agree with everything you said. I'll do you one better and say Tomorrow Never Dies is my fav of Brosnan's run.
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post #44 of 87
3/19/04 at 6:40pm
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Tomorrow Never Dies was the one with that fat caviar manufacturer, wasn't it?

I liked that one as well.
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post #45 of 87
3/19/04 at 7:14pm
Hugh Jackman would be good. Old enough to look experienced and not be laughed off the screen by adults, but fit enough to not be dismissed as an old man by teens. He looks strange when suaved up and without facial hair, though. Girly nose.

On the other hand, Brosnan Bonds have made more & more money with each installment, so clearly no one has a problem with ol' Remington Steele.
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post #46 of 87
3/19/04 at 8:20pm
I came across this little piece from an interview with Brosnan about the state of the bond films or the people behind them, at least.

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"That’s a good question, Peter. I don’t know. We’re in a very opaque land at the moment. I’m certainly willing to come back for a fifth and final one. But I think the producers are certain a kind of paralysis has set in. And they don’t know where to go, how to go with this film. So if it happens, great. If it doesn’t, I’ve done my four - the contract was for four...We set a fine bar there with the last picture. And from what I can gather from Barbara and Michael, they don’t know what to do".
So they're at a standstill as far as ideas go, this might be the point where they finally realize they'll have to take the series in a new direction, but I doubt it.
Owen has stated he's not interested in playing Bond, Dave, so you don't have to worry. Unless they're going to have Bloom play Bond at the beginning of his career I can't see him fitting into the role.
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post #47 of 87
3/19/04 at 9:21pm
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Originally posted by walter-konkrete
I'd put "being punched by Orlando Bloom" somewhere after "being pummeled with a soggy waffle" on my "Things that Hurt List"
Oh, I dunno. Nimble guy, long reach ... skinny guys fight till they're burger.
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post #48 of 87
3/20/04 at 2:02am
Oh just bury the franchise. It's a bore and a tired relic of the past. Is there really a strong interest in the character anymore? Can't we get our thrills from something else (and new)?
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post #49 of 87
3/20/04 at 2:18am
If they're going to cast an actor from Pirates of the Caribbean as Bond, my vote would go with Jack Davenport.
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post #50 of 87
3/20/04 at 3:22am
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If they're going to cast an actor from Pirates of the Caribbean as Bond, my vote would go with Jack Davenport.
You may be on to something there.
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