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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Ok, I know this will be written off as a "do my homework" thread, but I'm actually trying to do some research for once.

For my TV History & Culture class, I'm writing a paper on the idea of "created families" in relation to Joss Whedon's work. Part of my paper focuses on the argumen that the fan community of Whedon's shows, whether it is Buffy, Firefly, or Angel, can be considered a "created family" of sorts, and to research that, I'd like to interview members of the fanbase who "travel" in internet communities like this one.

Thus, I'm asking anyone who considers themselves a fan of either Buffy, Firefly, or Angel and is interested in commenting about their fandom and their relation to the fan community, whether you're a fanboy or just a fan, to please respond either in this thread, in PM, or by contacting me at blh220@nyu.edu.

This is a topic that I am very excited about and I hope that I can get some response. I know there are plenty of intelligent people who dig the man's work on these boards that I've had a number of great conversations with, and I hope to hear from you all!

(Woodward, you better respond....)

Thanks again,

Brendan
post #2 of 20
I just can't wrap my mind around any of the following...

a. A TV History and Culture Class

b. What is considered "research"

c. What sort of tuition is charged for the privilege of attending such classes and conducting such research.
post #3 of 20
One of the film profs from the good ol' University of Toledo is in that Philosophy of Buffy book. I havn't read it and have no plans to. But hey....it can't help for you to take a looky look.
post #4 of 20
A looky look? A looky look at a booky book on that looky-loo show? The one with that cutie patootie on it?
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
I have that Buffy & Philosophy book, but the type of research that I'm interested in doing, there hasn't been much written about. There are very few articles about the relation of Buffy fans to one another, and that's what I'm going to explore in this paper--how the fanbase of Buffy, Firefly, and Angel can be considered a "created family" of sorts.

And Hudler, people have been writing and researching television for fifty years. Please, get over yourself.
post #6 of 20
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Originally posted by Rath/Brendan

And Hudler, people have been writing and researching television for fifty years. Please, get over yourself.
Writing and researching about television is one thing. There is great writing out there about television. I've read some of it. I'm just not getting the idea of writing about communities of fans and passing it off as scholarship. For me, the process of education involved reading and writing about people who were older and smarter than me. I was funny that way.
post #7 of 20
Just for the record, I don't consider any of you fuckers in the Television forum part of my family.

Hope that helps.
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
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Originally posted by Rex Hudler
Writing and researching about television is one thing. There is great writing out there about television. I've read some of it. I'm just not getting the idea of writing about communities of fans and passing it off as scholarship. For me, the process of education involved reading and writing about people who were older and smarter than me. I was funny that way.
I wasn't originally planning to write about the fans, in fact, a large portion of my paper is still devoted to analyzing both the shows in question and writing about articles written by people who are older and smarter than me. However, my professor suggested that the idea of created families in relation to the fanbase was a rich idea for exploration and that I should do some of my own research (again, based off of articles written by people older and smarter than me). I'm actually enjoying a class I'm taking, for once, and am learning quite a bit and I want to do well--I want to be thorough, and I want to write about something I'm interested in and think is worthy of scholarship. Otherwise, what's the fucking point?

(I mean, come on, Whedon himself has admitted that all his work is about created family, but there's very little written about that idea itself.)
post #9 of 20
I think I made this joke before, but what does a "Works Cited" page look like for one of these things? Do you cite someone's hotmail account? Date of post/e-mail?
post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
No, in this case, I'd cite the articles written about this, I'd cite the episodes of the shows that deal with it, and I'd cite the interviews I do with fans. I've seen some articles that cite posts from the main Buffy web-board, but I'm particulary trying to stay away from that because I want it to be pretty credible.
post #11 of 20
I was mistaken...The prof in the buffy book isn't a film prof but a philosophy prof. The film prof will be in the Angel book that's coming out sometime late this summer. She's looking at the flashes used in angel and how they represent Cinematic Time or some such thing. Obviously more elaborately titled and much more thought out than this post.
post #12 of 20
There is also a huge ACADEMIC Buffy confrence in May in Nashville That the film Prof will be attending. There might be fodder for you use at such a place.
post #13 of 20
I wouldn't mind helping.
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
I was actually accepted to give a presentation at that Buffy Conference in May, but I lacked the funds to go. Also, it really seemed like they were accepting everyone who wrote complete sentences in their proposals, so I was kind of "eeeehhhhh" about the legitmacy of the thing (I know the people putting it on are legit, but I wasn't so sure about the legitmacy of the actual panels. But that's me.)
post #15 of 20
Second post, and Whedon is the subject of both. I would love to be considered a member of the Whedonverse family, as he, Bruce Lee, Bob and David, and few others are on my Idol list. I have seen everything he has done for TV, I I love the entire body of work that he has committed to the small screen. Unfortunate that those at the top have such a hard time seeing anything but the Lowest Common Denominator.
post #16 of 20
Rath, if your bibliography includes the name "Buster Hymen," I definitely want to read it.
post #17 of 20
Since "fandom" - and its myriad implications on vewing and consumption - is one of the prevelant phenomenons of contemporary culture, it's no wonder it forms the back bone of many a cultural studies course. Did a module myself in my own Film Studies B.A. few years back. Given the popularity of Whedon's creations, I'd say it was ideal for study.

Good luck with it Rath, though it's a pretty hefty workload - don't envy you one bit.
post #18 of 20
www.slayage.tv

Collection of scholarship writing about Buffy/Angel.

Articles you might want to check out:

"Aliens, Teens & Television" http://www.slayage.tv/essays/slayage2/campbell.htm

"Synergy and Smut: The Brand of Official and unofficial Communities in BtVS" http://www.slayage.tv/essays/slayage4/stengel.htm

Also, check out Fighting the Forces - Academic Essays on the BTVS. Particularly Part III "Forces of Arts and Imagination (Present): Fan Relationships, Metaphoric and Real" with articles including:

"WWW.Buffy.Com : Cliques, Boundaries, and Hierarchies in an Internet Community "

and

"Buffy’s Mary Sue is Jonathan: Buffy the Vampire Slayer Acknowledges the Fans "
post #19 of 20
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Originally posted by Rath/Brendan
I was actually accepted to give a presentation at that Buffy Conference in May, but I lacked the funds to go. Also, it really seemed like they were accepting everyone who wrote complete sentences in their proposals, so I was kind of "eeeehhhhh" about the legitmacy of the thing (I know the people putting it on are legit, but I wasn't so sure about the legitmacy of the actual panels. But that's me.)
CVA my friend....CVA. Who cares how crappy it is. If your presentaion is good does it matter if the rest suck? That's some good stuff for an academic resume.
post #20 of 20
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Originally posted by Rex Hudler
I think I made this joke before, but what does a "Works Cited" page look like for one of these things? Do you cite someone's hotmail account? Date of post/e-mail?
Seriously, though, couldn't you cite that as an interview? That's what I'd do.
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