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post #801 of 976
Munn is good looking but not all that - except that she is on Comedy Central, instantly making her the most attractive woman on the Channel - certainly on the Daily Show (although I would wreck Kristen Schaal).

The problem withher coming off as a bitch in her interviews is that she won't gain any more fans - she's already teetering on the edge of likeability. Also, it doesn't seem natural i.e. she's not comfortable in the role.

Good bye beard, i look forward to seeing it in flashback montages in the coming years.
post #802 of 976
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The fat kid was worse. Give her a little time. It was very rough. But she can make it.
I still remember with remarkable clarity Wyatt Cenac's first day on TDS. It was, trust me, very horrible. I felt really bad for the guy, and I would've sweared (sworn?) it was his first and last day on the job.

And now, he's a rock star!! And deservedly so; he's absolutely great. The Jones/Oliver/Bee/Cenac/Mandvi team is the best since the Colbert/Carell/Helms/Corddry days.
post #803 of 976
Tim Kaine was on last night. This guy's the head of the DNC? No wonder they're in trouble--the guy couldn't convince me the sky was blue.
post #804 of 976
I loved watching Jon hammer the guy on how feckless they are. Hopefully some of that gets through.

My main hope at this point is that the Tea Party candidates continue to win primaries, making the Republicans largely unelectable.

The exchange with John Oliver about extremist Christians and Portnoy's Complaint was golden, too.
post #805 of 976
Are these Tea Party candidates actually running as a third ticket? I'll be honest, I haven't been paying much attention to them as far as being an actual political party or not.
post #806 of 976
Jon has been looking like his head is going to explode all week. He needs another Crossfire moment, I think. But where?
post #807 of 976
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Jon has been looking like his head is going to explode all week. He needs another Crossfire moment, I think. But where?
He keeps talking about an "big announcement" he's going to make soon. I wonder if he's leaving the show.
post #808 of 976
Going back a day: I am a little annoyed that Oliver threw Jeremiah Wright into that montage of crazy religious guys. Wright's a goofball, nothing more, and the "scandal" surrounding him is just more mindless "ACORN is an evil conspiracy"/"Obama's a secret Muslim who was born in Kenya" blather from the right. You can't seriously compare him to Pat Robertson; that's another one of those phony attempts at "balance" we get from the media, and the Daily Show shouldn't be enabling that.
post #809 of 976
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He keeps talking about an "big announcement" he's going to make soon. I wonder if he's leaving the show.
The big announcement stuff is just taking the piss out of Glen Beck. In any event, Stewart's contract isn't up till 2012.
post #810 of 976
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You can't seriously compare him to Pat Robertson; that's another one of those phony attempts at "balance" we get from the media, and the Daily Show shouldn't be enabling that.
You're wise beyond your years, young sir.
post #811 of 976
The Tony Blair interview was really bad. The extended cuts on the web show John not letting him speak much and just rambling away all his concerns with the handling of the war and so.

I agree with the thoughts, but if you are interviewing Tony fucking Blair, let the man speak.
post #812 of 976
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I agree with the thoughts, but if you are interviewing Tony fucking Blair, let the man speak.
That's pretty much my only beef with Colbert, too. He too often lets his schtick get in the way of a decent interview.
post #813 of 976
I think that should be the distinct difference between the two. Colbert is playing a character and the whole show is an act. It's a mockery of the [insertFOXanalysthere] style. Every interview is going to induce laughs and applause consistently because that's what the goal is.

Stewart is so much more serious when it comes to political interviews, and I like it that way. I agree, Stewart shouldn't be dominating the entire table match. Unfortunately, for a show where the interview segment is usually 7-10 minutes, it's difficult to get a real solid debate going.

And don't get me fucking started on the audience. The only segment where there needs to be a "NO APPLAUSE" sign.
post #814 of 976
So they are making a Rally! October 30! To restore sanity.
Those signs were awesome.

I didn't watch Colbert, did he add anything else?
post #815 of 976
Yep he's playing the fear-mongering conservative pundit to the hilt. I want to know how they're going to make this work in one rally--Stewart doesn't play a character, or as much a character as Colbert does. They employ different kinds of parody. Either Stewart will need to be more arch or Colbert will have to dial it back a bit.
post #816 of 976
The March to keep fear alive, similar poster just in black, same date.
post #817 of 976
Okay, he was already my number one epic man crush, but with tonights 'announcement' of the Rally To Restore Sanity, he may just be my modern day truth-telling comedic hero.

I really really wish I could be there.

EYA: and I don;t care what anyone says, I still love Ole Bill.
post #818 of 976
This event sounds like it'll be a blast. Definitely going. I can see it being staged kind of like the Ninja Turtles stage show, with Colbert as the Shredder. If it were a straight up parody of the Turtles show, it would be doubly spectacular.
post #819 of 976
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Yep he's playing the fear-mongering conservative pundit to the hilt. I want to know how they're going to make this work in one rally--Stewart doesn't play a character, or as much a character as Colbert does. They employ different kinds of parody. Either Stewart will need to be more arch or Colbert will have to dial it back a bit.
Eh, they worked fine together during the 2008 election special.
post #820 of 976
Colbert is deftly able to turn the irony up or down depending on what the situation requires. When he does stuff with Jon he dials it up to 11 so the satire is clear, and when he does other stuff he can approach with greater nuance in an attempt to draw more out of the subject and cut them down.
post #821 of 976
Just have to say that Thursday's show was awesome.
post #822 of 976
My favorite sign was "9/11 was an outside job!"
post #823 of 976
So the Rick Sanchez response isn't really a huge thing. It was like shooting fish in a barrel anyway. What I found kind of amazing was the guy who wrote the book and was just flatly and calmly dismissing religion as a moral guide. Not in a Christopher Hitchens look-at-me-ma-I'm-controversial way, but as if he'd simply come to that conclusion dispassionately. And he didn't seem to feel the need to apologize or qualify his remarks. That was kind of incredible.
post #824 of 976
Watch the extended interview with Eric Cantor. Seriously, go to Comedy Central or The Comedy Network and WATCH IT. Jon slips into ranty mode a bit too much, but it's soooo refreshing to see someone pointing out that Reagan, the patron saint of Republican's "small government" mantra, GREW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND RAISED TAXES.

Cantor slips up a few times, too, I think, basically admitting that he's there to suck the cock of big business.
post #825 of 976
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Jon slips into ranty mode a bit too much, but it's soooo refreshing to see someone pointing out that Reagan, the patron saint of Republican's "small government" mantra, GREW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND RAISED TAXES.
It's so completely exasperating that the only mouthpieces you'll hear information like this comes from people like Stewart or Colbert, or maybe the occasional MSNBC anchor. Between the idea that Reagan somehow won the Cold War single-handedly and the idea that he was a Small Government Republican, it makes me want to tear my teeth out.
post #826 of 976
No shit. Reagan has to be one of the most blatantly overrated presidents in American history, and it's exasperating that so many people, current president included, claim to revere him. Well, maybe it's not so surprising that so many politicians would admire a man whose main accomplishment was being an extremely successful politician, but everyone else needs to clue in.

Gah. Anyway, thread derail over.
post #827 of 976
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Watch the extended interview with Eric Cantor. Seriously, go to Comedy Central or The Comedy Network and WATCH IT. Jon slips into ranty mode a bit too much, but it's soooo refreshing to see someone pointing out that Reagan, the patron saint of Republican's "small government" mantra, GREW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND RAISED TAXES.

Cantor slips up a few times, too, I think, basically admitting that he's there to suck the cock of big business.
That might be the best interview Stewart's ever done. Every ounce of frustration and anger built up at hearing Cantor's constant lying and bullshit platitudes washes away when Stewart eloquently and incisively exposes Cantor for the hack that he is. And he has the class to thank him at the end for coming on the show.

The Reagan part was ok, but the quote about the Republican fallacy of limited government ("it's only limited to the shit they want to do") was brilliant and well-timed, and the perfect end to that interview.
post #828 of 976
good interview but I really enjoyed last night's show with Colbert and super special guest. I wish i could get to Washington for his rally.

Hopefully their week in washington will yield some tasty roasts.
post #829 of 976
Speaking of the Cantor interview, I liked when Jon said the Republicans attitude was like when a criminal says he found Jesus. When did you find him? Just after you caught me. Cantor proves that the GOP hasn't learned anything. They are still for tax cuts for the rich, and they still won't give Clinton credit for anything.
post #830 of 976
Soooo...after a lengthy probationary period, I think it's safe to say: Olivia Munn, not getting it done.
post #831 of 976
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Soooo...after a lengthy probationary period, I think it's safe to say: Olivia Munn, not getting it done.
Agreed. Especially when she's paired up with any of the other commentators, like last week with John Oliver.
post #832 of 976
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Soooo...after a lengthy probationary period, I think it's safe to say: Olivia Munn, not getting it done.
Not at all. God bless her, she's trying so hard to sit at the adult table, but she just isn't working.
post #833 of 976
She's so awful. She completely kills the momentum of the show every time she pops up. Seriously, it's time to cut her loose.
post #834 of 976
Just proves that hot chicks can't be funny. (I'm kidding)
post #835 of 976
To be fair, she is getting better, her Chilean miner spot was amusing, but she still has a way to go. I suspect she'll be starring in DTV movies before long...
post #836 of 976
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To be fair, she is getting better, her Chilean miner spot was amusing, but she still has a way to go. I suspect she'll be starring in DTV movies before long...
No, it wasn't amusing in the least. It was kind of obnoxious and lame, and just brought the humor to a complete halt. Yeah, she's hot, but if I want to look at her, I'll just hit Google. As it is, every time they say her name on The Daily Show, I cringe, because I know I'm about to be subjected to a whole lot of not funny.
post #837 of 976
i agree that she still seems uncomfortable and most of the chilean miner thing she did was weak, especially as one of the other "correspondents" could have made it work, and the fact that the whole rescue was comic GOLD that the writers had 2 months to prepare for. That aside I think the writers are struggling to work out what to do with her, self-obsessed prima donna doesn't seem to work as she's still pretty likeable. Hopefully when Samantha Bee is done with her maternity she will be back. However, with the whole "daily Show hates women" teacup storm that went off the other month, I think it's likely that she will stay. The other thing with her is that the show is pre-recorded, 4-5 hours before transmission, so out of all the takes that they had, that was the best one?

Although, and this is just a thought - what if she's a weird meta comment on Fox News's use of dumbass Nazi Blondes? Nah.
post #838 of 976
I've met Mr Stewart twice in my life, and the second time was during a taping of TDSwJS on June 21st 2005

My dad drove myself and a friend to the taping, and it was really cool

The reason I'm telling you about it is that now that every episode of TDSwJS is online for free at TDS website, you'll be able to check out and verify what I'm about to share with you


If anyone has ever been to a TDS taping, you know that Mr Stewart likes to take questions from the audience beforehand. Well, I was selected for my unique qualities (just kidding, he just pointed at me for reasons unknown), and I was able to ask him a question

While in the years since that taping Stewart has given some hard hitting interviews, at the time he was most famous for softballing guests like War Criminal Henry Kissinger . When he had public figures on his couch who he'd covered on the show, he rarely asked tough questions or pressed the point with follow ups

So, I asked

"I love your show and respect what you do, but you're one of the few voices out there in the media landscape who bothers to address the hypocrisy we see around us every day amd when you interview your political guests, you ask soft ball questions and let people like Kissinger off far too easily. I guess my question is... Why?"

Stewart was a little stunned, and tried to blow it off with humor saying that he ran a comedy show and that tough interviews were CNN's job.

(I've always wondered if my public confrontation could have played some small role in his future interview style, because later that year he spoke with Bernard Goldberg and gave his first really abrasive combative interview -- something he no longer shies away from these days. Could I shamed him into taking action?)

Anyway, when the show started and Stewart was talking about the schedule for the night, he said (paraphrasing, but you can check the actual tape at TDS website) "And tonight we have Dwight Yokam.. and I won't let him off the hook with easy questions, I'm going to be tough and get the answers!"

Everyone in the audience laughed, knowing that he'd just made an on air joke about my question

No one at home in America knew the context though

I thought that was pretty special and wanted to share. Hope you found it interesting
post #839 of 976
They pre-record it but I don't think they do a ton of takes. They do a rehearsal or two and then they generally do a 'real' show.
post #840 of 976
Princess Kate, you have reached new depths of moronitude. Your anecdote reminds me of the assholes you always get at Comic-Con who stand up to ask "questions" of celebrities and instead ramble about themselves for ten minutes. Please go away forever, including not responding to this post.
post #841 of 976
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Originally Posted by Princess Kate View Post
I've met Mr Stewart twice in my life, and the second time was during a taping of TDSwJS on June 21st 2005

My dad drove myself and a friend to the taping, and it was really cool

The reason I'm telling you about it is that now that every episode of TDSwJS is online for free at TDS website, you'll be able to check out and verify what I'm about to share with you


If anyone has ever been to a TDS taping, you know that Mr Stewart likes to take questions from the audience beforehand. Well, I was selected for my unique qualities (just kidding, he just pointed at me for reasons unknown), and I was able to ask him a question

While in the years since that taping Stewart has given some hard hitting interviews, at the time he was most famous for softballing guests like War Criminal Henry Kissinger . When he had public figures on his couch who he'd covered on the show, he rarely asked tough questions or pressed the point with follow ups

So, I asked

"I love your show and respect what you do, but you're one of the few voices out there in the media landscape who bothers to address the hypocrisy we see around us every day amd when you interview your political guests, you ask soft ball questions and let people like Kissinger off far too easily. I guess my question is... Why?"

Stewart was a little stunned, and tried to blow it off with humor saying that he ran a comedy show and that tough interviews were CNN's job.

(I've always wondered if my public confrontation could have played some small role in his future interview style, because later that year he spoke with Bernard Goldberg and gave his first really abrasive combative interview -- something he no longer shies away from these days. Could I shamed him into taking action?)

Anyway, when the show started and Stewart was talking about the schedule for the night, he said (paraphrasing, but you can check the actual tape at TDS website) "And tonight we have Dwight Yokam.. and I won't let him off the hook with easy questions, I'm going to be tough and get the answers!"

Everyone in the audience laughed, knowing that he'd just made an on air joke about my question

No one at home in America knew the context though

I thought that was pretty special and wanted to share. Hope you found it interesting
Thanks for taking the time to talk about yourself some more. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I really want to hear more stories about your and your family.

And regarding the question you asked Stewart, are you cribbing talking points from Tucker Carlson now? That was exactly what he asked Jon Stewart during the infamous Crossfire interview, and it's just as silly now as it was then. It's a fucking comedy show, and he's a fucking comedian. Period. His job is to be funny, and if he is viewed as the saving grace of American journalism and expected to "ask the tough questions", then that is just an indictment of the state of the American media, not Mr. Stewart.

People like Tony Blair and Henry Kissinger go on his show because it is a comedy show, and not Meet the Press. When he starts going after guests he doesn't agree with politically, the show is no longer really a comedy show, and more than likely alot of potential guests decide it may not be a good idea to come on the show.
post #842 of 976
Stewart walks a fine line. Sometimes he engages his guests in real discussions, other times he lets them pass. Am I disappointed when he lets them pass? Sure, but I don't blame him. If you'll notice, Stewart is brilliant at keeping things cordial even when he vehemently disagrees. This creates an atmosphere where people want to come on his show. The fact is he's not a journalist, and it's ok for him to schmooze sometimes.
post #843 of 976
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i agree that she still seems uncomfortable and most of the chilean miner thing she did was weak, especially as one of the other "correspondents" could have made it work, and the fact that the whole rescue was comic GOLD that the writers had 2 months to prepare for. That aside I think the writers are struggling to work out what to do with her, self-obsessed prima donna doesn't seem to work as she's still pretty likeable. Hopefully when Samantha Bee is done with her maternity she will be back. However, with the whole "daily Show hates women" teacup storm that went off the other month, I think it's likely that she will stay. The other thing with her is that the show is pre-recorded, 4-5 hours before transmission, so out of all the takes that they had, that was the best one?

Although, and this is just a thought - what if she's a weird meta comment on Fox News's use of dumbass Nazi Blondes? Nah.
The thing is that article about women hate kind of hated on the bimbo-ish Munn's hiring too, a little. And even if the article's claims proved to be pretty off base, I do wish they just stuck with Kristen Schaal. Way funnier. In fact, just fire Munn and bring her back.

Although, the Fox News parallel thingee could be fun, if they ever did something to suggest that.
post #844 of 976
Bring back Beth Littleford, Nancy Walls or Stacy Grenrock. They aren't doing anything.
post #845 of 976
Holy crap, just saw that Obama is going to be on The Daily Show on Oct. 27. Kind of crazy to get a sitting president. I wonder if Stewart will talk about his disillusionment with his administration.
post #846 of 976
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Princess Kate, you have reached new depths of moronitude. Your anecdote reminds me of the assholes you always get at Comic-Con who stand up to ask "questions" of celebrities and instead ramble about themselves for ten minutes. Please go away forever, including not responding to this post.
You're derailing this thread, put me on ignore if you don't want to hear from me. My question was about Mr Stewart, not myself. Your criticism makes no sense
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Thanks for taking the time to talk about yourself some more. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say I really want to hear more stories about your and your family.
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It's a story that I've been proud of for years, and have been wanting to write up for CHUD for a long time. Will everyone care? No, of course not. It's an important moment from my life all the same though and when I had the free time I decided one day to sit down, type it out and share it with you guys

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And regarding the question you asked Stewart, are you cribbing talking points from Tucker Carlson now?


That was exactly what he asked Jon Stewart during the infamous Crossfire interview, and it's just as silly now as it was then.

It's a fucking comedy show, and he's a fucking comedian. Period. His job is to be funny, and if he is viewed as the saving grace of American journalism and expected to "ask the tough questions", then that is just an indictment of the state of the American media, not Mr. Stewart.
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A stopped clock is still right two times a day. At the time I asked Stewart that, I was pretty much the biggest TDSwJS fan out there. I'd not missed a single episode of his program in more than a year. I loved the guy, but my question was to voice a legitimate criticism about his soft ball interviews. Stewart is not perfect, and Tucker was right about that one point*. Maybe you guys have forgotten, but the Kissinger thing got Stewart some criticism from the left at the time and his interviews were very weak for his first half decade on TDS. As I stated, he turned that around eventually but when I asked my question it was still very much a valid criticism
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People like Tony Blair and Henry Kissinger go on his show because it is a comedy show, and not Meet the Press. When he starts going after guests he doesn't agree with politically, the show is no longer really a comedy show, and more than likely alot of potential guests decide it may not be a good idea to come on the show.
That's odd, because in the years since I asked my question, Stewart's interviews have often been combative with certain guests and he's taken to using a controversial guest's appearance on his show as a launching point for a debate

I guess he disagrees with you

Anyway, sorry you didn't like my story. I thought, and still think, it was cool. If one of you posted and said that a TV host made a joke on air about a question you'd asked, I don't think a single member of the CHUD-munity(c) would have anything to say other than "Congrats!" or "Neat!"

*though I loved Stewarts delicious CROSSFIRE takedown as much as anyone, that was some of the best TV of the decade and CF deserved what it got
post #847 of 976
Will he actually be on the studio? (well, their temporary Washington DC Studio) or will it be a "via Satellite" thing like last time?
post #848 of 976
I haven't seen any information on that. And I haven't seen anything saying how much of an appearance it will actually be.
post #849 of 976
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That's odd, because in the years since I asked my question, Stewart's interviews have often been combative with certain guests and he's taken to using a controversial guest's appearance on his show as a launching point for a debate

I guess he disagrees with you
Yes, undoubtedly you and your question were the catalyst for this huge change in Jon Stewart's career. Congratulations, and enjoy your delusions.
post #850 of 976
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Yes, undoubtedly you and your question were the catalyst for this huge change in Jon Stewart's career. Congratulations, and enjoy your delusions.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc? Not IMHO. No need to get so worked up, KM..
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