Jon Stewart.. and the Daily show - Page 20

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

Yeah, when people say "it's hard to sell films around the world with black actors" I wonder where their samples are coming from. I mean...is it a shock if Tyler Perry movies don't rake it in in China? Does that really have anything to do with the actors being black? I suspect people mostly aren't trying very hard. (And of course, Hollywood isn't really lining up to cast Chinese actors either, so I'm not seeing  a lot of consistency here.)

 

And even if this is 100% correct, isn't there something kinda screwy about saying American films can't tell American stories, featuring the diversity that's seen in America, because they have to pander to everyone else?

Well, this case sounds particularly ridiculous, not just because this sounds like a relatively small part which wasn't ethnic specific and at the same time Morgan Freeman (along with John Cusack) is the main lead in this film and would be having much more screen time.

As it was, "The Contract" proved to be a hard sell to everyone if its box office was anything to go by.

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel 

Fuck him.  Clooney has said something similar about women in EW.  The question I have to them is what have you done about it? 

 

Uh...he just produced an all-black film. He doesn't get credit for that?

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Originally Posted by The Prankster 

Uh...he just produced an all-black film. He doesn't get credit for that?

 

 

No.  He said he wanted to make it for the last 25 years.  What was stopping him?  And now he's using hollywood racism to promote the thing(and make him look good) when he was part of the problem.  What did he produce before that?  Mace Windu the biggest black character he's had in his movies.    Maybe Lando.  But they were secondary characters.  Did he ever think to give an African American, Asian, or Latino a major role in the star war films?

I just can't stand Hollywood types brining it up when they have done nothing to change it. 

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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel 

No.  He said he wanted to make it for the last 25 years.  What was stopping him? 

Dependence on the studios for funding and distribution? The fact that he was having trouble condensing the story down?

Red Tails has been a known passion project of his for at least a decade, he's not playing the 'Hollywood is racist' card just now to drum up publicity, he's been talking up trying to get the movie together for years.

Since when does George Lucas need to get someone to finance a film? 

All I'm saying is Lucas has the money to make any film he wants and that he is part of the problem with studios not wanting to put together an all black cast.  He doesn't put any young African American actors in his films, like most of hollywwod, then wonders why you can't make a movie with a young African American cast.  Instead of casting a young African American in any of the 3 star wars movies and making him a star he made Jar Jar Binks and a bunch of shitty, nameless CGI characters.

Don't you all know, in Anya's world, only Joss Whedon gets to make positive statements about gender and racial roles in Hollywood! THE ONLY ONE DAMMIT!

I kind of agree with what Anya is saying, but I'm not going to thumb my nose at one of the few times someone in a prominent position brings this issue to the forefront (even though I'm sure it'll be forgotten just as soon as the movie is out of theaters).

Also, even if Lucas could've financed and produced the film much sooner, there is still the issue of distribution and marketing to consider.  I assume distribution isn't as big of an issue, since I'm sure 20th Century Fox wants to stay in Lucas's good graces for any potential Star Wars endeavor in the future.  But how much marketing muscle would anyone be willing to put behind an all-black cast for a film that is clearly meant to be directed towards mainstream audiences?

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Originally Posted by Greg Clark 

Don't you all know, in Anya's world, only Joss Whedon gets to make positive statements about gender and racial roles in Hollywood! THE ONLY ONE DAMMIT!

When did I ever say that?  Just come to troll I see.

Because it's related to what has been discussed on this thread lately:

Lucas, his fans, and his hopes for Red Tails.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/magazine/george-lucas-red-tails.htm

Thanks for that.

George should learn from his buff girlfriend.  We need you alive for a while, George!  Lose some weight and get buff!

Who, you know, was played by an African American.  And it's not like Mace Windu was a nothing character.  Or was he supposed to cast an African American to play Obi-Wan?

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Originally Posted by Fafhrd 

Dependence on the studios for funding and distribution? The fact that he was having trouble condensing the story down?

 

Red Tails has been a known passion project of his for at least a decade, he's not playing the 'Hollywood is racist' card just now to drum up publicity, he's been talking up trying to get the movie together for years.

Yes to this. Lucas can indeed make any film he wants, the problem then becomes who will distribute it? Lucas has been saying even 20th Century Fox didn't want Red Tails, even with Lucas' track record.

As for the Lucas record re: casting African Americans in his previous films, Lando and Mace Windu are fucking Star Wars icons!
 

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Elizabeth Warren is peerless.  I hope the DNC is grooming her for big things.

Seriously, every time I see her talk I'm thinking, "I WISH I COULD VOTE FOR YOU!"

I think she's pretty hot, myself.

Fuck I hope the system doesn't corrupt her.

Of course it will "corrupt" her in the sense that she'll have to compromise, and will probably disappoint you at some point. The hope is that she'll manage to improve things in the meantime.

Watching Grover Norquist on tonight, it finally dawned on me that conservatives think of "no new taxes" in the same way they think of "abstinence-only sex education". Neither takes in the reality of human behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Cylon Baby 

 

 

 Lucas has been saying even 20th Century Fox didn't want Red Tails, even with Lucas' track record.

 

 

LOL. His track record that after 1980, anything not called Star Wars or Indiana Jones bombs?

Edit: Oh yeah, The Daily Show depresses the shit out of me now. So many of these fuckers are beyond satire.

Stewart's an FNL fan.  Cool.

FNL fan?  What did he say?

He had a bit last night where the white ape from John Carter was Joseph Kony and got destroyed by 'Tim Riggins' - and finished it off with a Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, Can't Lose.

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Originally Posted by The Dark Shape 

And it's not like Mace Windu was a nothing character. 

Wait what?  Yeah he kind of was, since he didn't accomplish anything or have any memorable character traits... he just stood around and acted like a humorless dick like every other jedi.

Epic interview last night. Farrell, Galafinakis, and Hamm. Hilarious.

It was awesome to see Stewart cutting up with the POTUS last night. Great show.