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My first introduction to the novel came about to John Carpenter's film version. I loved it, and would put it in one of the classic horror titles produced in the last twenty years or so. I looked for the novel fruitlessly for years, untill one day I finally found it in a book store. Devoured it in a weekend. The characterisations were amazing, and it has several good set pieces, especially when a group of vamps attack the slayer's in a church.



Is there anyone who loves the film, or more specifically, the book as well or am I alone?
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I like the film alot now but I haven't read the book yet. After so many recommendations on here I need to pick it up one of these days.
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I love the book but abhor the movie. They changed all the characters around and, in my opinion, tried to make it "cool". I thought the book stood just fine on it's own. I also liked how the book didn't really have one central bad guy. Every vampire is evil, and there's not one king vampire. That's one of my biggest beefs about the movie. They felt like they needed to add the original vampire into it. I thought the movie had a cool concept, with the cross and all, I just didn't think it needed to be in an adaptation of this book.

I also didn't like the Starship Troopers movie for the same reason. It was like they said "We got character names, let's get rid of this book-thing!" I just don't like unfaithful adaptations, unless they improve upon the source material.

Of course I loved the new Dawn of the Dead, and that, while good, certainly wasn't an improvement. So what do I know?

Edited to add un to unfaithful. Otherwise, that sentance makes no sense.
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It's an adaptation, so you gotta keep that in mind. It can't be a straight up copy.......for one thing, the movie would have to be about six hours long to even get half the depth of the book characters, something which Carpenter states in the commentary.
However, I DO think it did something important and captured the flavour of the book. It is a wonderful hybrid of a horror and a western, and I felt like it nailed the book's, well for lack of a better word, "look", or how I imagined it would look. Woods captured Crow's wild side exactly, it's just a shame we didn't see his softer, more vunerable side. I understand your argument completely, but I really truly think it's impossible to capture EVERY thing in a book on film, so why not just stick to th ebasic concept or ideas? (This being vatican sponsered vampire hunters) and some of the set pieces from the book was done very very well, and I thought the opening was done great too.

Starship Troopers is a movie I love but that was using the books themes, and mocking them (how war and violence do solve issues, which Heinlien does imply in one speech by Razcheck) .
post #5 of 6
Great book. I read it years ago right when it came out. I couldn't wait when I heard that Carpenter was making a movie version!
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I'm a big fan of the book but am only lukewarm on the movie, mainly because I feel that Carpenter has a tendecy to deflate tension in early scenes that should be much more edgy. Still, the film has moments - particularly the hotel room attack sequence toward the beginning.

But shame on Carpenter for dumping the character of Felix, who was so much more layered and interesting than Daniel Baldwin's Montoya character. Indeed, most of Carpenter's attempts at characterization are rather feeble in comparison to the book (in the film, the men are all swaggering macho guys, while the women, without exception, are whores), and I really don't care for the Valek character at all.

I realize that certain liberties must be taken with an adaptation, but I really feel that this could've been a classic if it hewed closer to its source material.
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