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Cheesecake Factory is a prime example of why other countries hate us

post #1 of 65
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So I ate at The Cheesecake Factory for the first time last night. It was ok, but I kept thinking this is why other countries hate us. It's pretty typical american restaurant, but they seem to always be located in malls. In this case, it's one of those restaurants at the mall where the outside of the place looks different from the rest of the mall. It's more posh, opulent, and over-done (and for no good reason).

By the time we got seated all three of the employees we had spoken to had warned us about the huge portion sizes. Be sure to save room for desert, they all reminded us. Cheesecake is what we're known for.

So far, their niche is huge portions. We get the menu, and it's a book. They have every type of food you can imagine: steaks, stir fry; pad thai; cajun; pizza; sandwiches, seafood. Like they took all the popular dishes from every type of restaurant and blanded (yeah, I mean blanded) them into one vanilla place. But with huge portions.

The place is loud and full of people with too much money. I saw a salad go by that would feed a family of four in most parts of the world. I've never seen such a shameless display of excess.

Having said that, the cheesecake was pretty damned good. The rest of the meal was mediocre. Oh, and here's a personal gripe: a company that has every type of food you can imagine only has one type of tea; unsweetened. What a crock. This is the south. People drink sweet tea here.
post #2 of 65
Yeah, but the unsweetened mango tea is brilliant. I'm a fan of the Cheesecake Factory. The wife & I can go in & order an appetizer, split one of those huge salads (which are great) and get a piece of cheesecake for under $30. Can't beat that.

If you feel like spending a little more, there is this cajun marinated steak that is excellent as well. I will say their most popular dish, the jambalaya pasta, isn't very good.
post #3 of 65
Any business called "Cheesecake Factory" should be concerned solely with 1950s nudie pics and nothing else.
post #4 of 65
If only....

Food there is okay, but I have no idea why they're always busy as if there's some great demand for overpriced, restaurant-chain food. I liked these maple-glazed pork chop they have. I never tried the cheesecake, tho...kind of over that dessert entirely. I went with the apple desert, which is like a turnover, but with a whole baked apple inside of it. Rather good that.
post #5 of 65
I find the Texas Cheesecake Depository to be a very over priced, over hyped place to eat.

Plus it's always crowded as hell, and that's never an enjoyable experience.
post #6 of 65
You truly believe people from all over the world hate the US because of oversized food potions?

Wow, don't travel much do you?
post #7 of 65
It's always been delicious every time I've eaten there.

Especially those avocado egg rolls. Yummm...

But I see what you're saying.
post #8 of 65
Is it a language thing that keeps you from understanding what he is talking about?

He's talking about the waste, the arrogance of American consumption and the lockstep blandness of the mall culture environment.
post #9 of 65
Also, I can't believe that people actually eat at places like that. I'm going to get flamed, but thank god I live in New York where I have more options.
post #10 of 65
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Originally posted by devincf
Is it a language thing that keeps you from understanding what he is talking about?

He's talking about the waste, the arrogance of American consumption and the lockstep blandness of the mall culture environment.
Ah, my own personal translator to "culturally" guide me through the boards, muchas gracias se~nor Devin.

I get what he's saying, it sounds a bit silly to me since many countries around the world try to copy these exact things you listed. When it comes to hating the US, it has more to do with policy and not malls and oversized food portions.
post #11 of 65
To understand it better, try using an analogy. Imagine that you only have a cracker and a piece of cheese to eat every day while a neighbor has so much, they he throws half his dinners away cause he can't finish it. He sees you starving, but yet doesn't share nor help. He stares at you through the window everyday, but continues to indulge himself. How would you feel? Would you feel that he rightly earned that food and therefore you deserve to starve to death? Wouldn't you feel it fair that he at least tried to help you?

We waste enough food in this country to feed entire starving nations around the world. hell, I went to an all you can eat place last night and wasted a huge portion of food as do many people. I took food home from lunch two days ago and allowed it to rot. Now i'm not saying you should change, cause I won't, but you should at least understand that what devin is talking about is a factor in why the us is not looked upon favorably around the world.

Hell, i contribute to US oppression by working in corporate america and wasting a whole hell of lot of stuff, but I do realize that I probably kill at least a dozen people around the world by what I waste everyday. I'm just comfortable with it.
post #12 of 65
I don't think people hate the US for any of those reasons you are citing.

Heck, a couple of months ago I ate at a Beniganns in central america. It was overpriced and had huge portions, and it's a very popular restaurant.

Not to mention all the development of malls and commercial centers that try to copy those here ...
post #13 of 65
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Originally posted by CapitanAmerica
I don't think people hate the US for any of those reasons you are citing.

Heck, a couple of months ago I ate at a Beniganns in central america. It was overpriced and had huge portions, and it's a very popular restaurant.

Not to mention all the development of malls and commercial centers that try to copy those here ...
Exactly Cap. The argument is wonderfully ironic.
post #14 of 65
That's a damn good post, Jankis.
post #15 of 65
Nice to see DeLude is going for his second Alanis prize.
post #16 of 65
To be honest...

I'm glad I live in a country that lets us wallow in excess.

I'm glad that I live in a country that you can get nice things and do whatever you want, because if you use your head and work hard, then you get to do whatever you want with your money and time.


If other countries have a problem with that, then fuck them. Get your ass from out under your dictator or your poor health and ecomomy system and do something about it.

If every other country thinks we're the evil empire, then let's be that evil empire. Let's give them something to fear!

Fucking whiny countries jealous of us. Like we should care what some country that uses their animal's bath water as drinking water thinks of us.
post #17 of 65
Everyone hates us cause we're number 1!!!!!!!!!
post #18 of 65
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Originally posted by Adam Warren
Nice to see DeLude is going for his second Alanis prize.
One is NEVER enough Warren. Remember that.
post #19 of 65
I hope the dude is kidding.
post #20 of 65
I'm pretty much with Capitan here. People overseas don't hate us because of our American lifestyle. In fact they want to emulate us. If you go overseas sometime, in pretty much any undeveloped country, and you'll find big malls, expensive restaurants, what have you. People overseas like our lifestyle, not our policies.
post #21 of 65
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Originally posted by Ali Mohamed
I'm pretty much with Capitan here. People overseas don't hate us because of our American lifestyle. In fact they want to emulate us. If you go overseas sometime, in pretty much any undeveloped country, and you'll find big malls, expensive restaurants, what have you. People overseas like our lifestyle, not our policies.
I rest my case.

Next ...
post #22 of 65
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Originally posted by Imperator GAC


but I do realize that I probably kill at least a dozen people around the world by what I waste everyday.
This little treasure deserves further exploration.....
post #23 of 65
Thread Starter 
Glad to see this generating some discussion. Pretty good discussion as far as I can tell.

I would definitely prefer Whitehead's cheesecake vision.

Devin pretty mcuh hit what I was going for. I will say that I would normally not choose a chain like this, but we don't eat out as much as we used to, and we wanted to see what the fuss was about. I might pick up a piece of cheescake to go in the future, but I don't think I'll eat there again.

I kept thinking of a news story I heard on the radio about this guy who fed his family rat curry. It's the only protein they get in their diet, and he's only able to provide that on rare occasions.

Thanks, Adam Warren. It's been a while since I got on a rant about something, and it's nice to see people responding.

Thedudeabides, I'd definitely rather live in a place of excess, too. Definitely better than the alternative. I'm going to pretend the rest of your post is a joke (I'm pretty sure it is).

I think the things I cited about the cheesecake factory are indiciative of things that people hate us for. Our policies either reflect or enable those things to continue. And while I think anyone would prefer to be able to work hard and reap the benefits, I believe you can do that without being wantonly wasteful and blindly ignoring the effects of your actions on others.
post #24 of 65
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Originally posted by Sammy Jankis


I think the things I cited about the cheesecake factory are indiciative of things that people hate us for. Our policies either reflect or enable those things to continue. And while I think anyone would prefer to be able to work hard and reap the benefits, I believe you can do that without being wantonly wasteful and blindly ignoring the effects of your actions on others.
I think there are more Americans (myself included) that hate this about our culture. Just about every other nation seems to emulate us and our malls and fancy tee-vees.
post #25 of 65
Not impressed with the Cheesecake Factory at all.

Sammy.. if you ate at the one in Raleigh's Crabtree valley mall, How long did you wait?

The only time we went.. we waited 2 hours for a table.

And anyone who gets valet parking at a mall is an idiot. Especially at Crabtree Valley Malls horrible parking lot.

So we eat our dinner and it was meal that was as average as eating at a Chilli's or Applebees. My wife has a chicken ceasar salad with some of the DRYEST chicken I've ever tasted.

Bad food + Bad wait = Never going back


As for the cheesecake, I would not know if it was good or not as none of my friends eat cheesecake or like cheesecake. weird huh?
post #26 of 65
Thread Starter 
Yeah, we were at Crabtree. We didn't really wait that long, like 20 minutes or so. It took about 30 minutes after we ordered to get our food.

No way I'm getting valet at the mall either. I think they build those lots a little too small to make valet a valid choice. Of course, that lot was too small before they had valet, but other malls do it that way.

Like I said, the cheesecake is good. And it's set up so you don't have to wait to get one to go. I would do that again. It's curious that the cheesecake portions weren't that much larger than most restaurants.
post #27 of 65
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Originally posted by devincf
Also, I can't believe that people actually eat at places like that. I'm going to get flamed, but thank god I live in New York where I have more options.
Yeah, like Ginza Sushiko (in NYC and 90210) were a meal for 2 goes for about $750.
post #28 of 65
Fancy that, Nelson randomly posts something crass.
post #29 of 65
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Originally posted by Adam Warren
Fancy that, Nelson randomly posts something crass.
"Send me your warning siren...as if I could ever hide."
post #30 of 65
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Originally posted by Guttenberg Fan Club
I hope the dude is kidding.
I hope he's NOT because I totally 100% agree. I rather like living in excess; hell, I dont even really have a problem with the "mall culture."
Just because some guy in some village somewhere in Africa is poor as all hell doesnt mean I need to feal guilty about large-sizing my meal at McDonalds. Fuck him, and fuck the "poor-me" look on his face.

But then, thats just me

- Fate
post #31 of 65
I live in one of those towns where the local cuisine is such shit that the Cheese actually is good. By the way, I'm moving in a week. WTF Valet parking at the mall? The FActory's giant portions may be contributing to our obestiy epidemic, but PARK YOUR CAR AND WALK! YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY GET SOME EXERCISE! OH MY GOD!
post #32 of 65
Thread Starter 
I went back. I felt like Devin at Olive Garden, but I went back.

I got cheesecake to go. It wasn't as good as I remembered.
post #33 of 65
Personally, I find the food at the Cheesecake Factory to be very mediocre. The cheesecake is pretty good, but the main meals are bland and uneventful. I'd love it if the giant portions were good. But a giant portion of crappy food doesn't thrill me. That mango tea Guttenberg mentions is fantastic though.

In general I find this applies to most of the big American chains (CF, ESPN Zone, Applebees, Olive Garden, Smokey Bones, Chili's, and so on and so on). To each their own, but I try and avoid these places like the plague. I try to frequent smaller, local joints or what I consider to be the few good chains (Houston's, PF Chiang's, Ippilitos). Not for a "bah, bad fat American excess!" reason but for the fact that I like their food better.
post #34 of 65
Their chicken, biscuits and gravy plate sucks. Bland as fuck.
post #35 of 65
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Originally Posted by devincf
Also, I can't believe that people actually eat at places like that.
STILL TRUE
post #36 of 65
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Originally Posted by devincf
STILL TRUE

Chipotle.....
post #37 of 65
Is the cheesecake even any good?

I really don't like places like this. Not because they're gross representations of casual decadence, but because it's shitty food for only marginally less than you'd pay to go to a nice restaurant. I refuse to believe there's anywhere in the US where a place like The Cheesecake Factory is your best option for a decent meal out. If you're gonna go out and spend as much as you're likely to spend at a kitsch restaurant, you may as well just spend that little extra bit and go someplace nice, where you'll actually be getting what you pay for, not just quantity.

You know, like Outback. Or Chili's.
post #38 of 65
Thread Starter 
Between the first time I was there, and the most recent time I actually had cheesecake in NY a couple of times. CF is the little debbie of cheesecake.
post #39 of 65
Tiny and dual-wrapped in plastic?
post #40 of 65
I ate there during a field trip for high school several years and was not impressed. The place had valet parking, so I knew it would be overpriced. Their cheese pasta was one of the most bland things I've ever tasted,and I didn't have enough money to try the cheesecake because my dish cost $14. I guess it's just like every other over-priced chain restaurant a la Red Lobster or Applebees. Personally, I'd just spring for the extra couple of dollars to go to a formal restaurant; but These places seem to be popular among the overweight, SUV driving soccer mom demographic.
post #41 of 65
Touching on thoughts from earlier in the thread about our culture of waste, take a look at this photo gallery from Time magazine, showing the weekly groceries for various families. Some of them are pretty sobering.
post #42 of 65
What is Bela Lugosi selling in that Japanese commercial?
post #43 of 65
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Originally Posted by BobClark
What is Bela Lugosi selling in that Japanese commercial?
I think that's actually a political ad.
post #44 of 65
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Originally Posted by Richard Dickson
Touching on thoughts from earlier in the thread about our culture of waste, take a look at this photo gallery from Time magazine, showing the weekly groceries for various families. Some of them are pretty sobering.
I don't know, the US was on par with other industrial countries in the amount of money they spent. The thing that stuck out the most for me was that the American families' "food" was all processed crap, whereas a comparable family's groceries, like the Chinese family, had a lot of fresh meats and vegetables.
post #45 of 65
I can't believe the amount of soda people drink.
post #46 of 65
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Originally Posted by BobClark
What is Bela Lugosi selling in that Japanese commercial?
Dreams. Carbonated dreams.

Jesus, look at all the cola in photo 6.

Chain restaurants give me cramps, then the shits. There's my review. (The one I fucking hate: Bucca Di Beppo.)

And now we all know Sammy's memory span for such trauma is three years.
post #47 of 65
I was talking more about the non-industrial countries. A week's worth of groceries for them is a night out for us. That African family is living on $1.23 a week. I can't buy a comic book for $1.23, and those people are living off of that.
post #48 of 65
Those people would be happy to eat your comic book.
post #49 of 65
Unless it was Battle Chasers, then they'd starve to death waiting for it.
post #50 of 65
Thread Starter 
The Mexican family has more soda than the Americans. That's because Mexican coke tastes so much better.
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