Bill Cosby Hates Poor Black People

Re: Bill Cosby Hates Poor Black People

Sounds true to me.

While this is pure crap. Someone stealing food sure doesn't deserve being killed.

I think the Cos is wrong when he attributes this to black youth. I think it's just simply youth in general that has a lack of respect for education and other common values.

Now get the hell off my lawn!

leaders in the black community have addressed all these issues before. the problem isn't what cosby was talking about, nor was it that he was completely off base.

the problem was he sounded like an insensitive jackass ignorant of the actual causes of these problems... a raving loon whose emphasis was all wrong.

Cosby came from a different era. The youth of today
is sure as shit not like what it was in the 60's. Family
values are different and things are more liberal, thanks
to the way our culture has evolved..or ...de-evolved?

He isn't attributing this to all black youth btw. He IS attributing it to a certain portion of the black youth though. But he is taking parents to task just as much as the children. And basically I've seen a couple TV shows dicuss this and they've come to the conculsion he has a rather poignant...point.

I'm gonna have to agree with him, but I've gotta take away a few points for tact.

DAAAAHHH.

But when you take into account the fact that he said this at an NAACP function of all place I think you have to give the guy points for having some mighty big balls.

True. Also, unfortunately, the message wouldn't fall on the right ears that needed to hear that criticism (regarding ebonics and such). And worse, even if they did hear it, they couldn't give a shit what Cosby thinks about their neglectful, shitty style of 'parenting'.

The Cos has a point, Pound cake stealing is through the roof and has to stop.

Hey, Pound cake thievery is serious. I love my desserts! I heard Cosmo once double-tapped a punk just for stealing a pie off his windowsill!

I can't seem to imagine Cosby saying "crap" and "hell".

He needed to elaborate in more detail about those points. Just seems like another celeb running their mouth without much thought. Typical hit and run syndrome.

Remember when Wanda Sykes got the cold shoulder from the Cos at, I think, the Emmy's.. But it was fucking funny.


Anyway, I agree with some things he's said.

I never was much of a fan, but now I truly respect the Cos.

Now, here's hoping for a Leonard Part 6 1/2.

Call me crazy, but this seems slightly different than Bono running his mouth about the IMF or Johnny Depp running his mouth about America. My guess is Cosby knows what he's talking about. Here we have a black man who built an enormously successful career through his own effort and hard work, who is horrified to see the youth of today pissing away the endless opportunities they've been granted due to people who gave their lives in the name of equal right, opportunities that Cosby never had when he was a kid in the 50's. You may not completely agree with him, but you have to admit that the current crop of kids is dumber, more complacent, more ignorant than any previous generation.

Point out the flaws in white culture and it's all good.

Point out the flaws in black culture and prepare for a shitstorm.

The only reason Cosby hasn't been lynched is because he's black.

This thread is like a Klan rally. Awesome.

No, I don't, because that's a stupid, unfounded and racist statement. Get back to making fun of celebrities for not wearing makeup, beauty queen.

So because its Bill Cosby and he's black its ok? Alright then.

Sure you can. Richard Feynman was a brilliant physicist and teacher, but to hear him talk you'd think was selling pretzels from a cart in New York.

Well, he's got some points. The fact is that if somebody, ANYBODY doesn't speak proper english the establishment isn't going to hold them in much regard. Right or wrong, it's the way it is, though generally speaking if a person is smart they realize this and they can change their register. Do you speak the same to your boss in the same manner as your friend? Of course not, and it's the same way with "ebonics" (as much as I loathe that word. Just call it slang, people).

As far as the pound cake goes, it's a poor choice of a metaphor, but I get his point; a criminal who is shot in comission of a crime shouldn't be mourned because if he didn't commit the crime he wouldn't have got shot. I think this is true, though, again, this applies to ANYONE who commits a crime, not just black people. If someone commits a crime and they happen to get hurt or killed, hey, sorry about your luck, guess you shouldn't have done it.

Blacks still face a lot of prejudice and non-institutionalised racism in society today, and I think people forget that sometimes. But I will say that the Victim Mentality that a lot of civil rights leaders press upon blacks probably doesn't help very much, and I believe it leads to a lack of hope.

It's certainly not as easy as saying "RISE UP AND SUCCEED AUTOMATICALLY" and I think Cosby was probably a little harsh, but he comes from a different generation and these comments seem to suggest to me that he probably is suffering from a bit of a Generational Gap.

Devin is such a girl sometimes.

You're such a moron all the time.

Racist? Devin, what are you talking about? I meant the whole "millennial" generation, regardless of race. You may bitch and moan about how that's unfounded and stupid, which kind of exposes your own ignorance on the subject. Go ahead, try to talk to your average 17 year old these days. Their ignorance will drive you up the wall.

Well, it's a thread where Bill Cosby is criticizing a generation of black kids, so you see where that comes from.

And you act as if there was ever a period since the time the false teenager age concept was created where 17 year olds weren't dumb.

I'm sorry if my post was misleading.

I don't claim that teenagers were ever particularly bright, but they weren't always this willfully ignorant. I can at least assume that the majority of my own generation could accomplish such feats as identify the Middle East on a map and understand how a woman gets pregnant.

Show me an example of a moronic statement I've made. Cite an example.

While you're looking, here's an example of why you're a whiny little girl:

In case you missed it, let's see it again one more time.

Have a taco, Devin.

From what I've seen, he does that a fair amount of the time.

Watch yourself, dude! You don't want to end up on his Ignore list, do you?

I know I'm gonna lose some credibility with this opening statement but I can't stand you.

You are such a twat.

Political apathy has always been high among teens, but I am around alot of the people you are so gleefully coralling into one amazingly ignorant label. There are some prom queen-y girls and car and/or sports obsessed guys who could give a shit.

But much more often than not teenagers have strong political opinions (on "both" parties) and can hold intelligent conversation if you corner them on it. Maybe you live in Shithead, USA but the rest of America (save for a couple states) has it together.

Tell your generation to go back to weeping over the end of Friends and considering plastic surgery.

So can I. And the automatic assumption that some certain individuals can't does not equate to the MAJORITY of the gen-X, Y, Zs (or whatever people label teenagers to be).

I'll concede that we certainly have our handful of slackers, swearers, gang members, political nonplussers, and such.

But we also have our scholars, creative thinkers, readers, writers, motivators, etc.

I digress though, because - hey - adults are always correct in their assumptions, right?

I'm curious, did you do a survey of this?

Granted, today's generation is exposed to alot more information and we're having things marketed to us at an early age but I don't see how you can assume todays generation is completely dumb. Aside from what you may think, what you see on reality TV does not consitute todays generation just a small percent. So I guess when you were a teenager you were never dumb, just everyone else.

My .02

Cos has every right to criticize the current crop of teenagers (of all shades) and their neglectful parents. His only son was murdered by one of these "knuckleheads," lest we forget.

Frankly, I think his comments showed incredible restraint.

Truly, the words of a scholar.

By the way, do you even know what generation I belong to? Allow me to give my background: As I work my way through college, I am assistant teaching at a local, middle class high school. On average I work with 150-300 kids a week. Naturally, I am not speaking from any sort of universal, godlike position. I am speaking from my own experiences. And my own experiences have taught me that in general (in general! I'm not talking about anyone on this board, all of whom are clearly far above the median and blessedly wise) the youth of today are complacent, pampered, and living in a happy little bubble of ignorance concerning the world beyond their own nose. It's just as much an indictment of the public school system as the kids themselves that maybe 10% of the students I see can name the capital of a foreign country. If I see the words "definitely" or "supposedly" mispelled one more time, I might have to hit someone.

Because of the anniversary of the historic Brown decision occured recently, my AP American History class had been studying the timeline of school desegregation. The students' reaction to this was heartbreaking. Most of the kids (these were 16-17 year olds) knew nothing of the civil rights movement besides the usual grade-school anecdotes about Martin Luther King, nor did most care.

So, RegVelJohnson, unless you are one of the clove-smoking teenagers who came into my 20th Century Literature class asking if we would be reading any Chuck Palahniuk, (though I suppose I should be thanking God that those guys could actually name a contemporary author) I am not speaking for you. You could have had differing experiences, but since you are seeing the current generation from the inside, perhaps your perspective is naturally warped. There's nothing wrong with that, but if you want to make it seem that the Youth Of Today (TM) aren't a bunch of obscene, disrespectful, know-it-all buffoons, you might want to refrain from calling total strangers sexist names on the internet.

Well put.

Explain in what ways previous generations were better. I mean, you know, concisely. I'm just looking for a broad generalisation like, "They read more."

Maybe fifty years ago people were better educated and more polite. But they were also less informed and more racist.

Well, they used to have riots at the docks in Boston whenever ships arrived carrying the new works of Charles Dickens. I don't imagine there is that much enthusiasm about printed material anymore. Also, Latin was taught in the highschool level during my grandmother's time. It seems a lot of teenagers (of all races in America) nowadays are getting by on the functionally illiterate level, let alone know much of a foreign language from school.

Still, that doesn't mean we are any more ignorant than the last generation.

The man is lost. He is not only completely out of touch with those who struggle economically, but he is horribly ignorant of the much larger, deep seeded sociological issues at play which keep poor families down in general, whether they be black white yellow or amaretto.

More to the point, he's a comedian. If he isn't trying to make me laugh, why the hell do I care what he has to say. In theory, people give him the time of day to avoid thinking of these very problems in life.

I think US teens are among the least politically active young people in the industrialized world.

Let's not even talk about how they compare with others when it comes to actual knowledge of math, science and history ...

Go Cincy!! Woot, Woot!

I reply with Kif's "Ugh".

Bill Cosby Hates Poor Black People

My point exactly, Cosby in all seriousness made example about stealing Coca Cola and pound cake yet in the same tone talk about lower income minorities and their lack of respect- is absurd. The man should have been laughed off the stage.
I agree with those who say Cosby is from a different era, I would also like to add he is from a different planet- The Planet JELLO!!!

Cos, don't ever make a mistake like that again, you are not so big that you can't be taking down by the people who helped you get to where you are:
the same people who you insulted watched The Cosby Show every thursday night no matter how godawful and retarded your sweaters were.