Reasons The CHUD Message Boards are at an All-Time Lull... - Page 2

Message boards always change. That's pretty much all there is to it. Whether that's good or bad is up to you.

I'm really trying hard to find out where all these complaints are coming from because I see the boards the same as they were when I first arrived here. There's certainly more members, and while yes, it does get the fair amount of useless posts, there's still enough intelligent discussion going around. Like it or not, this is a messageboard, not a salon. Anybody can come in.

If you want the change, then stop making threads that basically whine about all of the CHUD messageboards downfall. If you want the change, make an impression - contribute to the boards, become a mod, whatever that comes to mind. In short, lower the whining and start doing.

And I'm honestly okay with some people going "Your posts are useless". It's hard feedback but at least it gives a person time to reevaluate themselves.

Can we order? I'd love a bellini (it is a bit too early for martinis).

Sez you.

If loving Bunny is wrong, I don't want to be right.

room.thehouls.com


please, go back.

And fucking take Bunny with you.

Comeone dont let this thread to shits.

If you wanna insult someone just do it intelligently.

Re: Reasons The CHUD Message Boards are at an All-Time Lull...

I think this explain most of it, right there.

You cheap bastards!

Isn't an oversized hobbit just a regular sized person?

Sure.
With hairy feet.

That's a great signature.

It makes me smile every time I post.

Apparently, Bunny was up for a writing job on Method and Red, but when it came down to the wire, his brand of humor was a little obvious for them.

Bunny wrote the original scripts for those Method Man/Redman Deoderant commercials, though.

I think this board has the same problems any board with so many posters would have. There are always going to be personalities that clash...We had that even when the board was much smaller. However I think segregating the older Chewers into a separate forum will not serve to up the level of discourse on the site. Where does that leave those of us that tread the middle ground between old and new? Because I tend not to post that often, I don't see myself being included into an exclusive group. I come here to read the main page and browse the forums for intelligent discussion on film. It seems a shame that the opinions of long time Chewers should be made inaccessible to posters like myself.

No, you're just a whiny tool.

An "elite" message board is precisely what's wrong here.

You want a board without guys like Otik, Devin, Bunny, me..whoever? Use the ignore function.

Will an "elite" atmosphere mark the more frequent returns of Tony Ryan, Laugharn, Will, HAM, etc? Who would this new thing cater to and why? I'm not asking Nick to make a board more interesting to me because that's 1--ridiculous to even think of asking and 2--why couldn't these boards become better through appropriate changes WE make ourselves? I have made some changes, as I've mentioned, I've made mistakes here.

This Old Skool Vs New School things was retarded the last time it went down...

The only people who don't like the elite board are the ones not allowed in.

Funny, I half expected this kind of answer from someone. Are you deciding who's in and who's not?

It doesn't matter, you know it's the truth. Anytime there is an "exclusive" club, the people who can't get in get pissed off. They feel better when allowed in.

As long as you elite folks are discussing nothing but French New Wave on your board, I have zero qualms with it.

Oh, you meant it that way. Sorry, I understand now. I really am serious about the questions I have listed.

At this point, Devin, I don't think I'd be hurt by not being included in an exclusive board. I would have to see it and who's there and well, if I wasn't invited to the party...how would I ever know that stuff? I'm pretty sure I'd get over it.

You can attribute my opinion to sour grapes, but I honestly believe that posters like Dre, Tony Ryan, R-Lu, yourself and others could improve the level of discussion on this board by participating in it with the new Chewers rather than withdrawing from it altogether. Set the standard.

I have no doubts that you will be not be barred from the invisible chewer forum, Sister Gracie.

And I sincerely hope that the new forum works out for everyone. I speak from experience when I state that. It's the inevitable gloating of 'elite status' that I'm bracing myself for, however. Something that a few of you will be gleeful in pronouncing when all other means of attack have escaped you.

"You suck, go away." Cultural, established chewer.

"Quit picking on me! Golly, you're mean!"-New chewer.

"Ha! I'm in the secret forum and you're not!"-Cultural, established chewer.

Mark my words. If I really cared about it, I'd be laying bets on who and when.

Gracie's got the right idea. I admit, I emailed Nick. This is quite curious though I suspect I'm right in the assumption that it's been made to bring back the Tony Ryans and the Dre's of CHUD, since that's basically what it says in ANNOUNCEMENTS.

I don't imagine I'll be "in" because I participate in not only "movies, music, and entertainment" discussions but also I am involved in that "evil" Late Nite thread they all hate so much. When I see a thread that doesn't interest me or one that I know I won't like, I don't click on it. Crazy concept, I know.

How the other side lives. I wonder if they will post there and here. I would. Why lose out on the good threads here and there are some.

See that is what I've been talking about. Alot of your behavior on the message boards seems to be that you are better than everyone else. If that is intentional or not on your part it is how you come across, as elitist. Instead of discussing with other chewers how they might feel about things you have your opinion that never wavers, and you just push it onto others. This is case in point. Pushing the new board which I now think is a mistake, a way of ignoring the problem, shows your lack of regard and others for other peopel who post here.

Some here just act like their opinion is the only one, like they are so wise noone can touch them, and if they disagree they are ignorant, and stupid. Thats what is hurting the boards.

Kindly prove my statement wrong, either specifically in regards to the CHUD boards or in general in regards to people left out of exclusive clubs.

I wasn't allowed in and I'm not pissed off. Frankly, had I been allowed in it would have been a surprise. Sure, I'd welcome what I expect will be a more mature discourse on the other board, but it's not like I've been made to sit in the back of the bus.

Why put up an announcement for all to see that you are going to create a board only for the "CHUD elite?" It seems to have created a lot of unnecessary dissent among the folks who post here, "elite" or not. If it had been done under the radar, this entire thread and all of the bad feelings behind it could have been avoided.

Why not just make a moderator-only board, and then make everyone who you want to be a part of it a mod on one of the currently existing boards? Or put them in some sort of moderator status? That way you can have your "old school crowd" board without all of the drama.

Whenever you belong to a group I.E a message board, and then the people who have been their longer decide "Hey your no good" lets start our own thing, because all you guys just arent any good to bother with, it will create frustration because it shows lack of caring. Of course people will be pissed about it.

The message board used to be inviting "hey the more the merrier" and if someone started just posting babble the responses were to get back on track. People who had been here first set an example, of what to post, and also set the intelligence bar.

When large numbers of people started registering and posting noone really wanted change when in fact they should be encouraging it, to make it better with new people and new ideas.

I'm a regular at Devin's site. It's one of the reasons I know the new board will be mostly cool. Devin's site has a refreshing lack of grandstanding. You should visit it more often and learn a thing or two about restraint.

Well, sure, some people who aren't in won't mind. But what I'm saying is that the only people who will hate this new forum are people not let in. Everyone who is let in will be ok with it.

In fact, I bet that anyone who is saying that it's a bad thing would change their tune upon being let in.

Well of course, human nature.
Its just rather disapointing its come to a new board.

Ross, I don't know why you actually care, since I don't know that I have ever seen you post in a movie related thread. The people who have overrun this board with their "wit" still can do so. The new forum is, conceptually, about stuff that wouldn't interest you anyway.

See it THAT type of behavior and attitude that causes me and I assume others to post just silly random crap. When everyone else doesnt really give a shit, why should I?

Bunny Dracula points out a thread about me, Kirby and Andre Dellamorte going out drinking together. Yes, that's an abomination.

Ross, I didn't mean to be offensive, but you have your little niche that you seem to post in. Nobody tells you not to post about movies.

Christ on a bicycle! I'm just stymied with what I'm hearing here, especially from you, Devin, voice of the people, champion of the little guy, the underdog, the downtrodden.

Can you even hear yourself? Of course the folks who aren't going to be "let in" are going to be upset! Nobody likes to be picked last for dodgeball, and here you are telling us that, not only will someone be picked last, but many won't be picked at all, and then you have the gall to tell us how it will be "okay", because, "the only people who hate it will be the people who aren't let in"?

Bad form!

Have the elite forum if you wish, but fuck you right in the neck for trying to convince me that all is right with the world and I should just accept and be happy and fine with the fact that many of us won't be let in.

Man, you guys are really over reacting. Over at the room.thehouls.com site, can just ANYONE join, or do they have to be oked by an admin? You post there, right? And you're OK with that kind of classist bullshit! Why I never!

I'm not saying that it's ok that some people don't get into a forum (well, i do feel that it's ok but whatever). I'm just pointing out that anyone coming from some "idealogical" POV on this is most likely just upset that they're left out, not because they fear a secret forum will be the downfall of CHUD.

I can see your point. But I honestly do think an effort should still be made to improve the level of discussion on the main board. I am guilty myself of not participating when I should...something I hope to remedy.

There is no way to elevate the level of discussion. There are too many people. You have to have a smaller community to have good discourse.

Again, true. That is part of what has kept my post count so low. I always felt odd adding yet another "yeah what he said" post to 5 pages worth of discussion. I fully concede that point.

That's all I'm saying. You DO feel it's okay, because you're one of the ones who are being included. Imagine if you weren't. Just try. How would you feel? Not so good, huh?

I'm not saying that the other board will be the "downfall of CHUD", but I am saying that I don't much care how much fancy mustard you put on a shit sandwich, it's still going to taste like shit.


And don't you ever again tell me that I'm "overreacting". If you weren't in "the club", the internet, nay, the planet itself would not be big enough to withstand your anger. I've said my piece and I wasn't a cunt, (well, aside from the whole, "fuck you right in the neck" thing, and I apologize)

Put yourself in someone else's shoes, dude, (and nevermind that stinky smell, we'll get some foot powder or something)

If I felt that I was a productive member of a site and still wasn't invited into the secret club I would probably assume I wasn't wanted and get lost.

Although, honestly, how someone with less than 200 posts feels they're being left out - it just seems to me like you're expecting to get treated like one of the regulars when many people have never seen your screenname before.

Look man, I'm not disputing your contributions to this site, nor am I, (with my little teeny post count), expecting to be invited to some sort of "old guard" forum, all I'm saying is that attitude that "it's okay that some are left behing as long as I'm included", is going to rankle with folks, and it's foolish to think otherwise.

I am well aware that I am in no way known here, and I could not have ever expected to be invited in the new board, and that's so not the point.

All I'm asking from you is a bit of, I don't know if I want to say compassion, as I don't think that quite makes the point, but just, man, step outside of yourself for one minute and then read back what you posted and see how you feel.

That's it. My $.02.

I think the people who will be left out will more or less be the people who deserve to be left out. I think people will continue to be added, while people like otik and malachi constant will (hopefully) not be. I think that the initial people in that forum aren't the only people.

Nick posted that it's but the first private board and that there may be more. Interesting.

Do it WWE style:

CHUD Legends

Main Event

Midcard

Jobbers

And you just KNOW there's been emails sent saying:

"I won't join if so-and-so gets in!"

I hope you are correct with that statement, devin. Time will tell.
And to the rest of the hopefuls that apply for this and are quickly denied admittance I leave you this pearl of wisdom:

Lighten up, it's only the internet.

*edited to add*

Keep planting those seeds of thought, devin. Very subtle of you.

Devin, I wish you could hear how you sound to the rest of us.

Look, it's really irrelevant whether I get in or not, and I'm past caring. The only reason I was bothered is because I am one of the few mods here. I certainly don't feel as if I am owed anything, but I do feel as if I "contribute" (your word) to the site. After seeing this shitstorm go down, I'm not sure I would participate anyway.

I don't weigh in on the movie threads much because as Gracie said, by the time us non-site or non-movie-industry people get to see the movie, there is already a 20 page thread on it in the Sewer. Who wants to reiterate something that was said by someone else that saw the movie a week before it's scheduled release? This does not mean, however, that I don't enjoy seeing the well informed and thought-out posts on said movie. I will miss that. Mourn it a bit, I guess.

So, see, you're wrong. Include me or not. If you don't, I'll enjoy myself with the commoners in the forums down below. Like always. Not being included won't drive me from the site, and I won't let it curb my posting here.

As Farina said, it's just the internet. This should be fun.