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Doom 3 Recieves 18 Certificate

post #1 of 12
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Doom 3 has recieved an '18' certificate from the BBFC, the highest rating available to any movie or game in the UK.

I can't link it, but if you go onto the BBFC Website you can find it under 'Recent Decisions - Interactive'. It was Classified on the 16th of June. It doesn't say whether the Xbox or PC version was submitted.

Thing is, games can only be submitted for certification if they are finished, as a gold copy is submitted. This means Doom 3 is finished, so it must be due out sometime soon. As in, this month or next. Expect some sort of offical annoucement soon, peronsally I can't wait for it. A suprise considering it was rumoured to be delayed until December.
post #2 of 12
So, "18 Certificate" means a "Mature" rating for us Yanks, right? Forgive my ignorance of certificates...
post #3 of 12
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Yeah UK Ratings are pretty straight forward:

12 = 12 years and over

15 = 15 years and over

18 = 18 years and over

And no, having a parent with you doesn't mean you can see an 18, unlike the flawed R rating. So we don't get any kids in our 'adult' movies. Also the 18 rating doesn't go unused like the NC-17 rating, because it's the only thing avaidable, you get many films and games rated 18 every year (such as GTA). I know games in the US have a different rating system to movies, but I'm not sure how a 'Mature' Rating works.
post #4 of 12
The "mature" rating we give here in the US is 17+. (T=Teen, 13+; E=Everyone, no age restriction) Some stores actually ID kids that appear to be under 17, but most don't care. If you're in a store that does ID, however, you have to have a parent/gaurdian with you to purchase said merchandise. Some stores do the same thing for 'R' rated movies. There's also an 'A' rating for games, meaning only adults can buy it (not sure of the age limit on that one) but I've never seen a game that actually got that rating. I would imagine it would have to have wanton sexual behavior since ultra violent games only merit a 'M' rating. (ie: GTA games.)

EDIT: See here if you're interested in getting a more detailed explaination.
post #5 of 12
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So, due to another flawed sytem, the A rating is unused just like the NC-17 rating?
post #6 of 12
Yeah, I guess so. I looked on the ESRB website (linked to in my previous post). The 'A' rating is for 18+, while the 'M' rating is 17+. That's just stupid. Why not just make it one rating. Either that, or make the 'A' rating have a higher age restriction. But it just seems dumb to have the two ratings only 1 year apart.
post #7 of 12
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The Amercian rating system for both movies and games is verging on utterly pointless. If you can get into a R rated movie rergardless of age, why the hell classify it anyway. And if it's too risque, then what the hell, just don't get it classified at all! Retarded. Why have a rating system, when your film doesn't even legally have to be rated?
post #8 of 12
http://pc.ign.com/articles/525/525394p1.html

August 3rd.

Kinda far away, but I guess they need time for marketing. It beat Half Life 2 to release after all...or maybe they're about to announce their date too.
post #9 of 12
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Hope it doesn't prompt Valve to release their game unfinished, *cough Atari* those extra few weeks of debugging make all the difference. That said, they've had fucking long enough already, don't you think?

Or perhaps Half-Life will push back to Winter now Doom 3 is due, and try to take on Halo 2.
post #10 of 12
Most non-video game chains won't even carry A-rated games (Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, etc.) I believe some of the video game stores will carry them, but will not put them on display. You have to ask for them at the counter, and show ID of course.

May as well be a ban. Almost no one will put A-rated content into a game with a significant budget.
post #11 of 12
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The refusal to stock video games in a country that sells guns...*sigh* I'm not even going touch this one...
post #12 of 12
'Mature' is equivalent to an 'R'. You even need ID to purchase 'M' games, just like attending an 'R' film (though it's much easier to get around the video game system than it is to get around the movie system). I can't imagine that any amount of violence, short of photorealistic renderings of something like dissections or traumatic death, would earn an 'A' rating. 'A' means 'Sex'.

You can actually have topless females in an 'M' rated game, though it's very rare... it's tip-toeing on the line. References to sex are allowable, up to a point. The Baldur's Gate series demonstrates this. The game has a brothel, and you can pay women to have sex with you, but nothing at all is shown... it's all dialogue proceeding and following the sex, and no dialogue or anything of the sex act itself.

Interesting enough, Bioware's Neverwinter Nights has a 'Teen' rating, and it gets away with a brothel. The dialogue is very, very carefully written, with innuendos and double entendres used instead of actually mentioning sex, but anyone over the age of twelve will understand what's being sold. If you're talking to one of the whores and choose precisely the right dialogue selections she'll agree to sleep with you, and the game isn't very subtle at all about it. You go to climb into a huge, round bed with her (or him), the screen goes dark, and you wake up "Sometime Later". She'll be asleep, and it'll say something about "She needs to rest after a busy night". Even better, you're character is "naked"... all his gear is off, and your avatar on the screen is wearing nothing but underwear. Now, all that detail should have earned the game an 'M'... but it was so difficult to pull off that apparently the ESRB testers never found it.
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