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post #101 of 116
WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW. Awesome season finale. I'm sad now.
post #102 of 116
Note: Do not casually watch the season finale of a show like this when you've never seen it before.

You just shrug to yourself and go "whatever."
post #103 of 116
Oh holy shit!

That finale was one of the best I've seen. What a damn cliff-hanger. And that "twist" was damn incredible.

I was really hoping that they wouldn't go the easy route and make Adrien the Carver, but they sure built it up for that. I KNEW they were smarter than that.

Damn, I can't wait for next season. I HATED seeing the Carver over Christian...that tear was just gut wrenching!
post #104 of 116
Nip/Tuck works like an ongoing Chuck Palahniuk novel.

In any other show the ludicrous twists and coincidences would cause the audience to groan, but since the first episode the world of Nip/Tuck has been established as outrageous and sensational. Fortunately for us the depth of the performances, character development, freedom of cable, and social commentary make this show a huge cut above a daytime soap. FX in an attempt to bring pay cable quality dramas to basic cable has just about overachieved. While I haven't had the chance to watch Rescue Me, The Shield and Nip/Tuck have elevated themselves to something special.

All sixteen episodes of the second season of Nip/Tuck were of the highest quality. Not a single one misfired or failed to drive the characters and story forward. Granted, the world of Nip/Tuck operates on its only set of rules that involve finding new ways of tormenting our beloved characters. It seems as if since the pilot McNamara, Troy, and the supporting characters have had an endless string of bad days and missteps in their lives. Yet unlike 24 where the soap opera elements take you out of story at hand and distract you from the primary elements of the show Nip/Tuck sucks you in and causes you to embrace the lurid twists and interconnectivity amongst the characters.

The season finale was breath taking. At first the revelation of Ava's true gender made me roll my eyes a bit, but after some thought it made sense. Her (his…) predatory nature throughout the season justified the twist, allowed it some sense and it also explains a lot about Adrian. Considering a deceitful former escort raised him he turned out to be what you'd expect. Not making the obvious choice of revealing him to be The Carver was a bold move and it opens up a lot of potential for season three.

You have to wonder if the Carver is going to be a known character from the past or a yet to be named sick bastard? Rule out Kimber despite the fact that she would know how to get into the living quarters of both McNamara and Troy and has used a knife on Christian before, the rape angle all but reduces it to a male unless the show wants to get silly. Then again it is Nip/Tuck, the use of a strap on wouldn't be too far fetched for the show.

It was a bit devastating watching Matt lose Ava even though s/he is the completely warped individual s/he turned out to be. You get the sense that Matt was really in love and was naive to Ava's true nature. Though was Matt present when they confronted Ava about the relationship with Adrian? If so I can't fathom why he'd stay with Ava after it was known that s/he molested Adrian at a young age. Then again love does crazy things to people.

I'd comment on Baldwin, or the arcs of Sean, Julia, or Christian, or how Joan Rivers wasn't all that bad and her story was handled well, but I've put enough thought into a TV show for now. Which goes to show how strong Nip/Tuck really is I can't recall ever getting this analytical about dramatic television.
post #105 of 116
I agree with everything Hexx said about this season. A very finely crafted take on every detail in every episode. The show rewards fans of the show by referencing events and even bringing back characters (living or dead or jailed) with no real explication of the back story because the fans of the show will know who is who.

As far as the finale, I was thinking the same thing as hexx once again. Any other show pulling the shit that nip/tuck has pulled would be groan inducing and would be crucified from the beginning. But Ryan Murphy has figured out this weird sense of "surreality" in which characters exist in teh real world but things like a perfect transvestite existing don't strike the viewer as awkward. The show balances this line of reality/unabashed soap opera story lines very very well.

Its still a bit tough to swallow someone as gorgeous as famke being aman, but in the essence of the story it does make a WHOLE lot of sense. It does explain why she has been taking advantage of all these younger kids, and just answers a lot in general. The ava story ended up being much bigger than i ever thought it would. I thought adrian would kill everyone else except himself. They got me with that angle, yet it made so much sense how it was handled.

As for the carver...what a way to end the season. God damn you for making me wait 9 months to get some closure to that!!! I loved the way the carver was slowly built up in the background in the latter half of the season only to explode into the foreground in the last 2-3 eps. And once again, I should have saw the twist coming and that killing the carver wouldnt be so easy and he would go after Christian. I should have saw it, but i didn't and my socks were knocked off when he was in Christian's bedroom.

And god damn, that tear at the end...truly truly awesome way to end a season.

Also, I am interested in seeing where Sean and Julia's relationship goes from here. Sean is obviously longing for her back, but Julia seems to have moved forward with her life. God all tehse questions and no answers for at least 10 months. Damn you tv...damn you
post #106 of 116
Does anybody know if FX plans to re-air the whole season at any point prior to its DVD release? I realize they ran a couple of repeats throughout the week during the show's intial run, but I only got around to watching Season 1 on DVD recently and really enjoyed it.
post #107 of 116
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Originally Posted by moovyphreak
Does anybody know if FX plans to re-air the whole season at any point prior to its DVD release? I realize they ran a couple of repeats throughout the week during the show's intial run, but I only got around to watching Season 1 on DVD recently and really enjoyed it.
They ran season 1 and have run both the first and second seasons of the Shield several times over. I'd bet closer to Season 3s arrival and a while before the Season DVD release is when FX will air it. Its what they did with season 1.
post #108 of 116
Yeah, I figured that's what would happen, as HBO does that with all its drama series.
post #109 of 116
FX is the new HBO
post #110 of 116
Hexx and Fazer....awesome analysis. I love this show. Have been totally hooked since ep 1 of the first season and have now gotten my friends and bf hooked as well. Couple of musings from my end....

The Ava thing threw me but in the end, it all made sense. Famke was perfect and I was just reading that she may come back next season for a couple of episodes....she loved being on the show that much.

There were a couple of times this season when I felt like the show had turned off on to the wrong track and was going to jump but it always came back - I'm glad that Shawn let go of some of his anger. I'm glad that Julia final got her shit together and found some strength. The whole Carver thing is freaking scary and I'm dying to know who is behind the mask. I wish they would just tell us when season 3 is going to start up so that i could begin the waiting...

So....shall we start the speculation about who the carver might be and why???
post #111 of 116
well since it wasn't adrian, i wouldnt be surprised if the carver was a totally random character. There really is no given reason so far as to why mcnamara/troy would have been linked to the carver before he started his rampage. It was only after the fact with the pro bono work that they were seemingly put on the carver's radar.

But if i had to guess...ill say kimber too.
post #112 of 116
Julia's boyfriend.


Excellent episode. I really like this show. Not as much as some of the other gushers around here, but enough to be ready to watch each episode.
post #113 of 116
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Originally Posted by mediumdave
Julia's boyfriend.
Zennis is a force that enlightens it does not lead one to a path of violence and destruction.
post #114 of 116
We all know it's Matt.
post #115 of 116
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Originally Posted by Hexx
Zennis is a force that enlightens it does not lead one to a path of violence and destruction.
Ha...perfect cover for the carver!!! If I had to bet, that's who I'd go with. Remember couple of episods ago when kev and julia were sitting on the couch and he made a somewhat nasty comment about sean...could be something bubbling under the service. My other speculation is the doc from Atlanta....
post #116 of 116
Ah, but what if he has turned to the dark side of Zennis? Huh, HUH? What about THEN? I'll bet that side is just SWARMING with violence and destruction. And the desire to do something called ZENNIS.
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