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Why I Think Anderson Did A Good Job With Resi

post #1 of 27
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Ok I know I am probably gonna get ripped apart for this but I don’t care, everyone on here can rip me apart but if they do so without good reason or without something solid to back themselves up with I don’t care.
1) I like the Resident Evil movie because Anderson took one of the best known and quit frankly pretty predictable at times survival horror videogame stories and produced something new and interesting. I like the way it expanded on how far the Umbrella Corp would go to protect its creations. I mean having a massive mansion as an emergency entrance, a whole special task force working for them, the laser room leading to the main computer system, and the Red Queen being as advanced as she is, that kind of AI is unheard of and very creepy.
2) I like the way it focused on how the Umbrella Corp affects people, the whole little “mini-story” of that guy and his sister trying to smuggle out the T-Virus so to expose Umbrella and also the lengths some people would go to try and sell it like that guy. I also liked the way when he explains to Alice how some people do different things to fight against Umbrella. I think it’s cool and is almost a kind of nod to characters like Leon and Clair from the videogame Resident Evil 2, who go one to fight against Umbrella. Claire continuing her searches in Code Veronica (I think, I haven’t played it) and Leon in Resident Evil 4.
3) I believe they were on a pretty small budget compared to most Hollywood movies according to Anderson on the commentary (which I think it is why it was chosen to be mostly shot in Germany as it is very cheap there) For what they had, I think they did a good job. I would have personally liked to have seen more of the labs, work areas which you do see but in more detail and some more big action scenes.
4) For a 15 (UK age rating) the zombies were pretty detailed and some looked as cool as some of the zombies from Dawn of the Dead 04. I especially like the way they had a more “ill” look to them, like they had actually been infected by a virus. The weird eyes, puffy eyes lids, sores around the mouth and on the hands. I thought they look good and it is a shame really you don’t get to see more of them up close, the zombies do show that thought was put into this movie. As for America etc giving it an R rating, I thought that was stupid. No way was it “bad” enough to get rated R.
5) I like the way you don’t really know where you are and I agree with Anderson on this, you get the feeling that you’re almost in a maze, rooms don’t seem to connect, and they all seem disjointed almost. I also liked the containers for the Lickers, it made sense to keep them in something like that though I doubt if this was real they would all be put in a large room and just left there in a way.

Those are just some of the things I like. I won’t go on as I have said enough. I will admit though with all the like I have for this film it still has some of the biggest and worst flaws. My most annoyance being how shit the Licker looks and moves and as for the bodies and blood disappearing from the elevators at the beginning where the woman gets her head knocked off and in the laser room is just stupid. Even one of the characters asks this question but we never get an answer. Oh and yeah, the sometimes down right horrible acting and dialogue. But still, lets not forget this is based on the first videogame which takes place mostly in the mansion and well if they did re-create the videogame into a movie it would cost a lot to find/build the mansion from the first game. Also, the videogame did have shitty dialogue too don’t forget.

So, Mr. Anderson, I would also like to forgive you for making the Resident Evil movie with a very much sci-fi feel, look etc. I don’t think you got over Event Horizon for whatever reason but it does give me some hope that Alien Versus Predator will have some good sci-fi feeling and look.

And there you have it, I could write a full document and post it if you all want, I think Resident Evil makes a great film to look at, criticize, study almost just due to its roots, making and audience reactions. It could have been a lot better sure, but then again the way I see it Dawn of the Dead 04 could have been better, so could have Van Hellsen, The Day after Tomorrow and many others. But for what it is, I like it and Kudos to Anderson for giving it his best shot, though I get the feeling he wanted to make it as quickly as possible so he could get one with Resident Evil: Apocalypse which I think is what he has wanted to do from the beginning.
post #2 of 27
*applause* Right on brother.
post #3 of 27
I have no problem with that. None at all.
post #4 of 27
I'll admit to liking it more than I should have. I think he should have made an effort to use more of the game material but it worked as a fun, mindless action flick. The problem I had with the Romero script was that it was too close to the game. It was almost a scene for scene breakdown and quite frankly it didn't feel very "Romero-ish" at all. It wasn't a great movie but it wasn't the total suckfest I was expecting it to be.

It's kind of like my Haloween 3 DVD that I paid $2 for that I've watched more times than I'm comfortable admitting to.
post #5 of 27
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Originally Posted by Rottenjesus
It's an unwritten rule in zombie films that there be splatter...
I disagree with the statement. I can think of several good 'zombie' films without 'splatter'.

'The Serpent and the Rainbow' for example. Of course this is a zombie film. Not a Walking Dead film. I still tend to think of the two as seperate.

I think the two sides of this debate on 'RE' will just have to agree to disagree and stay on our side of the fence.
post #6 of 27
Add Shock Waves to that list. A great zombie flick with no gore or splatter whatsoever. I can't even remembre if there's a drop of blood in the film anywhere.
post #7 of 27
Why is it that we have more threads about RESIDENT EVIL and HOUSE OF THE DEAD than any other horror film ever made?
post #8 of 27
I used to defend Anderson. However after reading the AVP Novelization...fuck him. If the book is even remotely close to the final film...this is my karmic revenge for all the years I fired back at Res Evil geeks.

**SPOILERS**

You do an Alien versus Predator movie and the goddamn hybrid is on screen for thirty seconds.

And only in chestbuster form?

FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

**END SPOILERS**

At least I know why there's no McFarlane figure now...
post #9 of 27
According to the poll 70% of the CC likes PA where 29% dislike him so it can't get that bad.
post #10 of 27
I agree Rauri but with this new movie they completely killed the story.

Also don't get confused RE:4 Umbrella gets shut down and Lleon is a secret service member protecting the presidents daughter in south america and from what I've read there are no zombies and no umbrella...

Oh and one of the reason we got it rated R here was because of the guy being cubed by the lasers
post #11 of 27
i dont get the point of this thread really. So, is RE redeemed?

someone could similarly write a post on "Why i think Anderson did a terrible job on RE".
the diffrence being he wouldnt have to try nearly as hard, and he'd only be restating what is obvious.

every movie has some positive aspects.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by ferriferous foodi
every movie has some positive aspects.
Are ya some kind of dumb? Go see house of the dead or S.I.C.K and then try saying that.
post #13 of 27
well, thats why i put "some" in italics there, buddy..

the degree of positivity is kind of relative.
post #14 of 27
True, They did spell the credits correctly on House of the Dead, so it wasn't a total disaster.

I'm not sure about this - all of the points made in defence of Resident Evil were in comparison to the games. Well, I've never played nor seen any of the games, and I thought the movie was banal, boring, predictable and cheesy. Perhaps there are some neat adaptations from the game, but in the end isn't the goal to make a good movie first and foremost?
post #15 of 27
Paul Anderson is one of the worst genre directors working today.

The one question I pose to him after seeing RESIDENT EVIL - did he ever actually play the game?
post #16 of 27
I liked about 7 minnutes of the movie


and the last shot


but that's just me
post #17 of 27
How did the movie fuck up the RE storyline?

i saw it as a side story

the next movie will fuck with the storyline, but im still gonna see it, and i'll probably like that too
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by The Impure One
Are ya some kind of dumb? Go see house of the dead or S.I.C.K and then try saying that.
I laughed my ass off watching House of the Dead, that in my opinion is a major good point.
I can't believe that people went into that film expecting anything more than a horrible fucking assault on the senses not unlike a raunchy fart in the face.

I don't play videogames, but Resident Evil is certainly the best film based on a videogame, and that's a truly sad thing.
I don't care about the lack of zombies, the lack of gore, or whatever common geek rant that is brought up again and again.

It just flat out sucked.

Save the lab out break scene, it has no tension, a lame story/characters, horrible acting, an awful score and Michelle "Hasn't done a watchable thing since Girlfight" Rodriguez.
I wouldn't even consider it as a B-Movie diversion, it just has very little going for it in my not so humble opinion (w/ the exception of the "smells like geek bait" MJ tit shot).
post #19 of 27
To me, Anderson is to sci-fi what Kevin Smith is to comedy. Both are good enough to get work, but no matter what they do, people complain. What do they both do in defense? Keep on truckin' and makin' the films they want to make. Just as they should. No one can stop talking about them or their movies, and when their movies come to video, they disappear from the shelves in a flash.They must be doing something right. The only director that gets as much flack as Kevin and Paul is Lucas. Not bad company if you ask me.
post #20 of 27
I like the guy. I liked Resident Evil. It's surely no more a derivative story than Dead Aim, Survivor and RE4 (from what we know so far) and they are made by Capcom- no one complains then. But as soon as Anderson deviates slighty and makes his own chapter in the saga, well the bitch fest never stops.
It's ok for Capcom to fuck up apparently, it doesn't even get noticed (the continuity fuck ups
between 0 and RE1 are tenfold worse than the movie....the games cant even agree on who made
the virus! And as much as people are complaining about Mila's powers, lest we forget about
Wesker i CV?

I can see why people might dislike RE. I liked it but it's flawed...the characters ARE one dimensional, it was a crime to waste so many people in the laser show when you had lots of zombie related deaths, it lacked tension and the battle scenes score was TERRIBLE- but as a shallow popcorn flick, it did work. It looked very slick and it entertained me. But those complaints I understand.

It's stuff like people complaining about continuity issues, when clearly Capcom have no REAL
clue about it either. I love the RE series but if your gonna bash Anderson for it, bash
Capcom too.

RE was a shallow, but fun, popcorn flick which I enjoyed. It has flaws and I can see why people
wouldn't like it, but it does its job, nd it not be masterpiece filmmaking but it is competently
made. People calling it the worst movie ever whilst hailing something like the Beyond a classic is a joke
( a film with much, much worse acting and "plot"). No one's really done that, but a lot of horror classics
are usually really badly made one way or the other (sort of how people bury RE for being bad
but then like the Godzilla flicks, which are equally as terrible, actually, a lot worse in their making).

Its a bunch of hypocritic crap. I guarentee most of the beloved horror classics , such as Reanimator, when viewed outside of the horror community will 9/10 be labled as crap. So why people act all superior to those who like RE is beyond me.
post #21 of 27
I understand where you're coming from but in Veronica wesker was slightly stronger than a human being I mean he was able to beat up chris but unlike alice he wasn't able to kill somebody just by punching them, also if there is a shot of wesker running down the side of a building in Veronica i must have missed it in the 3 times I played through the game.
post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by The Impure One
I understand where you're coming from but in Veronica wesker was slightly stronger than a human being I mean he was able to beat up chris but unlike alice he wasn't able to kill somebody just by punching them, also if there is a shot of wesker running down the side of a building in Veronica i must have missed it in the 3 times I played through the game.

Yes but Alice also didn't get skewered by a Tyrant and live to tell the tale. And Wesker....did
you see how fast he was, how high he could jump? I don't think running down a building
would have been a problem (he was literally a blur!)

I'm not saying I like Alice's sudden superpowers, I think that is the ONE thing that has got
me a bit nervous about the film, I hate it. My point is simply, if your going to bitch at Anderson
for endowing her with superpowers, also bitch at Capcom who did it first.
post #23 of 27
I really didn't see anyting wrong with the way zombies were portrayed in the flick. I know there were complaints about the lack of gore in the flick, but lets remember something here . Anderson had stated in interviews that he had written the film with the MPAA in mind when working on it. After all the stuff he had to cut out of EVENT HORIZON due to Valenti's henchmen, he probaly toned down a little more than he should have. Also remember he wrote the script for this in early 2000. The massacre at Columbine High School was only year old, and there was the backlash over violence in the media. The MPAA at the time was cracking down at bit harder on films for violent content, also it being an election year you had politicians , both on the left and right, promising to crack down on Hollywood. to tell the truth I'm surprised any "R" rated flick was made that year.
post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by THE ONE AND ONLY
to tell the truth I'm surprised any "R" rated flick was made that year.
or a lot of those "R" movies should have been pg-13
post #25 of 27
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Originally Posted by Striding Cloud Django
I used to defend Anderson. However after reading the AVP Novelization...fuck him. If the book is even remotely close to the final film...this is my karmic revenge for all the years I fired back at Res Evil geeks.

**SPOILERS**

You do an Alien versus Predator movie and the goddamn hybrid is on screen for thirty seconds.

And only in chestbuster form?

FUCK. THAT. SHIT.

**END SPOILERS**

At least I know why there's no McFarlane figure now...
You're pissed off because there wont be a hybrid running around in the movie? This could have possibly been one of the corniest things ever, and didn't you think they would have saved that for a sequel anyway? Infact, even though I'm not a fan of the "Predalien," there's really no reason to stick it in the first movie when most people are just going to finally get a glimpse of Aliens & Predators together on screen for the first time. The whole Predalien thing just seems like a real petty gripe to me. I'm sure you have other reasons why the movie will suck based on the novel.
post #26 of 27
I dug Resident Evil for what it was. Had a good look to it but a few unnecessary elements bogged it down (AI girl, Licker being totally CG).

That said, I'm looking forward to the franchise continuing but would hope they do RE4 for the next one. That game already has a creepy ass atmosphere from the screenshots/videos and I'd love to see it on film. Those cultists are creepy and the psycho townspeople are an awesome mix of zombie and just creepy people.
post #27 of 27
I really don't like the laser room....

Those people could have been eaten by zombies, only later after RE did I see Dawn and get the part where the guy only had one bullet left and shot the zombie instead of himself.
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