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Ginger Snaps Back: The Beginning

post #1 of 19
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I saw the final Ginger Snaps movie this weekend, at FantasiaFest, and I hated it. With a passion. I now know how Friday the 13th, Hellraiser, and to an extent, Star Wars fans feel when they see another film being release that just cheapens the value of their trilogy.

I sent Johnny my review a while ago, and I'm hoping he posts it up on the site. If not, I'll just put it here.

But be warned folks, I though this was on the same level as Underworld.
post #2 of 19
Yep, it will be up tonight.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Groovy. And thanks. Now my career as a freelance horror movie reviewer can fianlly begin!

I'll send you my review of Scooby Doo 2 as soon as I can find it, again.
post #4 of 19
Well apparently your the only one. Bloody-Digusting loved it, (5/5), and everyone that I have asked that has seen it has loved it,with one person liking it a lot.
post #5 of 19
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That Bloody-Disgusting review was quite overblown. Comparing it to the work of Kubrick? Saying that Perkins can do more in one wink than most actresses can do in a lifetime? I think not.

I'm sure the majority of people will like it, but they happen to also enjoy all the other tripe horror movies that are being released. I will usually not watch a movie unless I know that the movie will be different, or that I'm sure I'm guaranteed to enjoy it. I know that that will cut down my movie viewing dramatically, but the only stuff that I expose myself to is usually excellent.

I hate slasher flicks, and I think they are the horror equivallent of Adam Sandler movies to comedies. I much prefer smart comedies like what Monty Python produced, or the work of Chris Guest. Ginger Snaps 3 was not more intelligent than crap like Underworld. There were no scares, nor humour, nor memorable dialogue, nor even any atmosphere. It was just a lame horror movie that kind of spits in the face of the original, which is one of the most clever horror movies in recent years.

I think that movies like The Thing, Alien, Evil Dead, Jaws, Ringu are all classic that work so well because they create this amazing atmosphere that's so spooky. That's what makes a scary movie intelligent; not having somebody jump out of nowhere at unexpected moment, that's just cheap.

I saw the flick with my cousin, Raoul Duke, and he seemed to have somewhat enjoyed it, but he never saw the original. My girlfriend thought it was kind of alright, but she loves the first one, and feels very much the same way I do. It was nothing more than a pretty movie, with quick cuts, and a few cheap jump-out-of-nowhere moments with characters who shared the same name as the heroines in Ginger Snaps.
post #6 of 19
There's a negative review/post in the "Films in Release and on Video" forum as well:

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Originally Posted by Carl90210
Wow.

Take everything good about the last two films and piss all over it and you’ll have Ginger Snaps Back: The Beginning. Not even a few good gore scenes (head + shotgun shell=mess), solid werewolf effects, and a decent ass shot of Katherine Isabelle’s body double could save this flick. Very disappointing.
And not to bash Bloody Disgusting but whoever does their reviews is highly dubious IMO. First that frothing-with-hatred test screening review for THE WOODS which never gave a valid reason why it sucked soooo much and now this ridiculousy exstatic, downright masturbatory and embarassing review for GS3. Sure the girls are cute but to whip it out and verbally jizz all over them in a review?
post #7 of 19
When does it get released? I'd still like to see for myself.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Floydian Trip
When does it get released? I'd still like to see for myself.

I agree. I didn't read too far into the reviews cause I'm really, really loving this series and don't want to read too much ahead of time. I gotta say though, I may already be of a different opinion because it seemed as if both the reviewers posted on the Corner liked GS1 better than GS2 and the more I watch it...as much as I love the first one, Unleashed is just awesome. Also I had no issues with a lack of werewolf or views of it or lack thereof in Unleashed. So I disagree with the review there too.

Anyway, I hope it's good. It may not be of course, but I'm just loving this series so far and I have hope.
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by captain supermarket
That Bloody-Disgusting review was quite overblown. .

is it just me or are almost all the Bloody-Disgusting reviews overblown? not to mention badly written.

im convinced the site is run by 13 year olds. very enthusiastic 13 year olds, but 13 year olds nonetheless.

EDIT: ah-ha! so im NOT the only one !
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Originally Posted by Wetbones
And not to bash Bloody Disgusting but whoever does their reviews is highly dubious IMO.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Floydian Trip
When does it get released?
US DVD Release Date: 09/07/04
post #11 of 19
Actually, Brad Miska (who runs it) is 27, I believe. So whatever that tells you...
post #12 of 19
Bloody-Disgusting is sort of reliable. There reviews are quite simply written I'll admit, they never go into full detail or write a full-length review like the Corner, some of there reviews are as short as 5 sentances. I'll agree that some of their reviews are likely written by 13-year olds that snuck into the theatre and decided to write a little review or something. One of the good things though is they update a lot and keep you updated on news, although they post pretty much anything that again, some 13 year old that made something up about a movie sent them, and then later write a reponse saying it was false.
The Corner is overall more reliable, and it ain't my home page for nothing.

Anyways, back onto the subject of Ginger Snaps III.
I read in one of the reviews on the Corner that you get to see Katharine Isabelle's ass. I wouldnt exactly call the movie great because of that, and besides, its a body double obviously. Thats the only complaint I have about the first review. I won't argue with the second because I have not yet seen the actual movie and do not know if any of the things he said about the film were true or not, but I am still buying it the day it is realeased, and am quite sure I will enjoy it, and I'll admit I'm a little biased.
post #13 of 19
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You get a quick flash of her booty, as well as part of her breast. The shot last perhaps half a second, and I do think it was probably really her doing the scene. Half a second of butt and boobies does not make this a must see movie. Wait for the stills to hit the Internet.
post #14 of 19
Movie really sucks. Seriously, this should have never been made.
post #15 of 19
Damn it! I was hoping they beat the odds despite how retarded the premise was but it's just been negative response after negative response. I bought the first two but I may have to rent this one first.

As for B-D, the reader reviews are lumped in with the staff ones and it just doesn't work. I found this place because almost every news blurb on their site had "source: creature-corner.com" above it so I figured I might as well cut out the middle man. I don't hate them or anything but it just wasn't my style. (especially the forums...it's like gamefaqs over there)
post #16 of 19
Just finished watching a screener. Despite the generally bad reviews of GSB back, I was looking forward to making up my own mind on this one. A lot of early press on Unleashed was pretty poor, and I loved that movie.

So then, my views on Ginger Snaps Back:

Basically, it's a stinker. The first twenty minutes or so are encouraging. It's beautifully shot, well played and brings to mind a promising blend of Antonia Bird's terrific Ravenous and the mythic qualities of A Company of Wolves. Then it all goes to shit.

What we basically have in the first two acts is a woefully poor slasher flick, with too few characters running around a too large set, saying little of any interest. We are meant to believe that while this internal struggle is going on, the fort is under constant attack by vicious werewolves. These sequences play like the CG guys forgot to put in the beasts, 'cos we see (very briefly) only one wolf. It's kinda weird.

I won't spoil it for you, but Ginger's inevitable infection is the single worst werewolf bite in cinema history.

Also worth mentioning is the most bizarre and inexplicable means of determining whether you have been bitten/means of destroying a wolf. It involves leeches.

The third act basically involves a hoodoo/voodoo examination of the curse of the Fitzgerald sisters and their eternal destiny. While Bridget's acid trip is quite fun, the resolution is neither satisfying nor enlightening. Oh, and there is a big fight with werewolves, a poorly directed thrill free ride that just makes you want to see everyone die.

The biggest mistake that the movie makes is the utter lack of emotional resonance between Ginger & Brigette. Nothing new is added to the mix, and a lot is removed. While Ginger occasionally exhibits the quirky spunk of the original, it is far too little to save the movie. Emily Perkins has little more to do than look ethereally pretty.

The script is clunky, badly paced & awkwardly directed. It also has little in the way of internal logic: just how long do the infected remain part-humam?

On the plus side, the cinematography is great, we finally see some wolves and Perkins & Isabelle look beautiful throughout. Oh, and I liked the guy who played the mini-wolf's father.

Damn shame to end a fine series on a downer.
post #17 of 19
Yeah, the Creetch and I watched it last night and more more less agree with that. It's a bit of a strange film, feels like it was rushed almost, and it tries to rely to heavily on the bond between the sisters, when in reality the depth of their bond is a repetition of "together forever" throughout. I was pretty unhappy with it, all in all.

And the werewolves just looked odd. Incredibly long front legs which I assume was done because they're a lot more of them and a lot more mobile in this one, but I can't be sure. Not sure why they would've changed the look from Unleashed other than those reasons.

My full review is coming up soon...
post #18 of 19
I received the screener as well, made it about 35 minutes in and went to bed. I'll finish it up later today. It's not really bad by any means, but the general lack of humor is obvious (granted, there are a few good moments in there), and the action feels slow, and not in the sense of developing any kind of characters. Worst of all, at this point Emily Perkins seems extremely wasted, and from the quick one-frame flashes that show up on screen, I think it's pretty obvious which of the two sisters is going to die in the end.

That said, the cinematography is beautiful, and it's a shame this film won't be released theatrically almost for that reason alone.
post #19 of 19
I downloaded the screener cause I couldn't wait another month.

First off, I'm one of the biggest fans of the original Snaps, and a huge fan of the second. And like most I thought the premise for the prequel was just horrible. However, seeing the trailer on the Snaps 2 dvd for the prequel I was willing to eat my words as it was an amazing looking trailer.

So, the movie was amazing looking as well, for a pretty low budget film it looked as good as most Hollywood stuff. But I'm with most others here, it wasn't that great, but not horrible by any means. The script was just bad. The premise could have worked, I came around to liking the whole "origin" storyline, but the dialog was bad, and dare I say both Emily and Katherine didn't bring their "A" game to this one, not even they could save this script. Hugh Dillon was pretty good, I'm a big fan of his as well.

Most of the first half was pretty slow, with just a mess of characters, and a couple sub plots (like the boy, and the old lady) that worked.

I think I missed some of the folklore of it all, like the "legend" of the two sisters, not sure I fully got what their forseen destiny was, but I did really like the ending, the last bit was almost a perfect way to end the trilogy.

Overall it was good, the sequel grew on me when I watched it a second time and this might too, I'll get the dvd and check out the commentary there, maybe some answers lie within.
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