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post #1 of 76
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T.V. spots started popping up so I thought it was time to start this one up. One certianly wonders if the director put in charge can actually pull off a decent film, it seems like it won't be relying too much on the zombies, what with the trailer focus on the Nemesis [He's smaller than the games ] and the Lickers, which we already saw in the first films. I hope that the director of this isn't "PWSA lite" or anything.

Of course this stands no chance against that other Zombie flick
post #2 of 76
ive never seen a trailer stink up the theatre like this one did.
absolutely goddamn atrocious. and that music. God

actually, i dont know about PWSA lite.... if anythign this director seems to be Paul WS Anderson on steroids.
post #3 of 76
I never thought the original was a masterpiece but it sure as hell looks like this new director sure wants to make it one with how poor this baby looks.
post #4 of 76
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I can only hope the nemesis isn't laughable..............actually I hope the film isn't laughable.

Funny that PWAS wanted this to take place during the game but this sequel looks to have trashed any hope of keeping the games continuity. They could have just gone with a seperate tale with Leon and Claire

Please no MKII though, good lord....
post #5 of 76
Looks Bad, didnt like the first one!

~fin
post #6 of 76
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Originally Posted by Darth_Chocula
the trailer focus on the Nemesis [He's smaller than the games ]
I call shenanigans on PWSA-Lite. Let's get our broomsticks...


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Originally Posted by Darth_Chocula
Of course this stands no chance against that other Zombie flick
You mean SUPERBABIES?
post #7 of 76
[QUOTE=Dariodevil]I call shenanigans on PWSA-Lite. Let's get our broomsticks...


[QUOTE]

Did somebody say SHENANIGANS?
post #8 of 76
No one spoil who gets EXPENDED.
post #9 of 76
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
Did somebody say SHENANIGANS?
Damn skippy, hippie.


I look forward to seeing Sienna Guillory as Jill Valentine.
post #10 of 76
The most important thing that will come from this movie are some sweet new fashion trends. Behold the stylish 'chunk of pants missing' look. She salvaged the bottom half. This girl is a survivor.

post #11 of 76
Just saw a commericial where it looks like Nemesis is on a rooftop with a rocket launcher. Interest rising!
post #12 of 76
He also has a minigun, so that's good.
post #13 of 76
This really doesnt look as bad as some people are saying. I like the trailer. Of course, it's probably not gonna be as good as it could be either.
post #14 of 76
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Originally Posted by wadew1
Bangtastic!
post #15 of 76
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Originally Posted by Dariodevil
Bangtastic!
Indeed. Can't put to words how adorable she is.
post #16 of 76
This is another movie I don't get the pre-hate for. I suppose if I was a splatterpunk video game fanatic, I'd still be holding a grudge that Milla isn't from the video game. But I'm not.

What I see is Milla Jovovich running around in a mesh top fighting zombies and blowing shit up in a retarded looking sequel to a retarded popcorn movie in which Milla Jovovich ran around in an evening dress fighting zombie dogs and blowing shit up...while not getting naked, of course.

Oh yeah. I see the hate. I feel the hate.

Course if the redux DVD has 'Free Movie Cash,' I'm using it...
post #17 of 76
This new one seems to have a certain charm the first one didn't have. Namely, Milla having no less than 7 guns strapped to her at all times, and the director making her perform every action movie cliche in the book.

And of course the re release DVD will have moviecash.
post #18 of 76
The first film was *terrible*.

This looks worse.

*A lot* worse.
post #19 of 76
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What I see is Milla Jovovich running around in a mesh top fighting zombies and blowing shit up in a retarded looking sequel to a retarded popcorn movie in which Milla Jovovich ran around in an evening dress fighting zombie dogs and blowing shit up...while not getting naked, of course.
She got naked twice I thought. She was definetly totally naked at the end.
post #20 of 76
I gotta give em' props for not giving away the movies plot in the trailer. The trailer was totally incoherant. Very LOUD though. I will see this film if it's raining outside the weekend this opens, otherwise I'll skip it, and wait for the DVD.
post #21 of 76
Has anyone tried counting all the explosions in the trailer? I lost count after the zombie dogs exploded.

One thing about this movie says it all: PWSA turned it down.
post #22 of 76
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Originally Posted by Moose of Doom!

One thing about this movie says it all: PWSA turned it down.
Only so he could bless us with AVP. We'll still get PWSA writing, though.
post #23 of 76
you know a movie is bad when even milla with guns cant get your ass in a seat.

damn.

its bad
post #24 of 76
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Originally Posted by ferriferous foodi
you know a movie is bad when even milla with guns cant get your ass in a seat.
But she has sticks too. And a motorcycle.

post #25 of 76
what's your point?
post #26 of 76
I don't know. I just wanted to post a pic of her holding sticks.
post #27 of 76
I really don't get it. I saw the 1st film at a bargain theater because I had nothing better to do and I still felt like I got ripped off. Not that I was expecting aything remotely decent from PWSA mind you, but the film was still bleh!.
It's a damn shame when your two best films are "Event Horizon" (a decent film crippled by its terrible 3rd act) and "Resident Evil" and you've no hope of ever one-upping either of them.
Seeing a nanosecond flash of tit from Jovovich is not enough for me to give a supposed horror film a pass, and the first film couldn't even pass for dumb fun because it was so goddamn annoying and boring.

I don't play videogames & I have no interest in films based on them, so perhaps I'm biased, but words like "anticipation" and "disappointment" seem to be too big for films like Resident Evil and its afterbirth, perhaps "apathy" is more suitable.
post #28 of 76
Well, in DC there will only be three press screenings... two will be on Thursday, while one will be on Wednesday morning at 10 AM... which I will attend... so PWSA isn't shaking me off his tail! HAH!
post #29 of 76
Here's The Arrow's review of the film, which he says sucks, and that its practically bloodless and goreless, he says there's more blood in his toilet after the weekend.

http://www.joblo.com/arrow/residentevil2.htm
post #30 of 76
Okay, so I'm in DC, at the beautiful MPAA theater to screen RE: APOCALYPSE for my local paper at a freakishly early 10:30 AM screening, and the woman in charge informs me that, surprise, Screen Gems isn't allowing any advance print reviews for the film. As she explains to me the situation (which I get: it's a Paul Anderson trademark to never screen movies for critics), the movie begins rolling, so I have no choice but to save any potential vitriol for the internet.

And there is lots.

Well, let's put it this way: if you liked the first one, you'll like the second one. Me, I'd prefer to stick my head into a bowl of Roseanne's stomach fat, but different strokes, different folks, right? APOCALYPSE is stupid with a capital STOOOOOO. Alexander Witt is essentially Paul WS Anderson 2: The Reckoning, and he likes to keep things moving at a quick, incoherent pace, splicing the worst elements of both the horror and action genres.

And no, I've never played the games. If you think that I shouldn't be reviewing the movie because of that, congratulatons. Go fist yourself.

The movie takes off from the end of the first one. Apparently the Umbrella Corporation is ready to nuke Raccoon City to remove themselves from the whole "zombie" incident. Alice, androgynously beautiful Milla, must get out of the city, with a little help from her friends.

Jill Valentine is played by Sienna Gulliroy, and she's also hot, but really more sexy than anything else. You know what I'm talking about, yes, she's pretty, but she's more hot as hell sexy than anything else. She has nothing to do, of course, and when she gives up the spotlight to Alice halfway through the movie, she never gets to recover it. And I suppose fidelity to the games is key, but the halter top and hotpants during the zombie apocalypse? I love her intro too: As we see a number of newspaper clippings reporting that she's been dropped from her covert agency (um, covert enough to get newpaper coverage?), a pair of long legs wearing sexy high heels strides into the picture. So, in other words, while Milla was fighintg those zombies, Jill Valentine was clubbing?

There are a few others. Oded Fehr is Carlos, a tough guy with a heart of gold who is apparently flirting with Alice in some scenes...? He doesn't have anything to do either, but the guy looks good in black. There's also good old Mike Epps, from the FRIDAY movies... good lord, if I never have to see Mike Epps in a movie again, I will consider my life to be a happy one.

The zombies are more plentiful in this movie than in the first one, which is a good thing. Being that they are out in the open, it also increases the fright quotient a bit, although not to the point of being actually scary. Still, the movie keeps to zombie logic solidly, and the walking dead are always fun to see on the screen if done right. Unfortunately, often the view of the zombies are obscured, as if Witt is aiming for a PG-13 rating (most likely), and they are often seen in disorienting slow motion. The gore level is surprisingly low for an R movie, but that's because this is a movie with more kicking than biting.

I don't know how the Nemesis comes across in the games, but in the movie, he's a charmingly stupid creation. Umbrella needs someone to go into the city and track down a few survivors who could be ANYWHERE, so they bring in this slow, lumbering creature carrying a rocket launcher. Imagine the biggest, stupidest looking grunt (Bane spliced with monster genes) and give him a rocket launcher, and you've got your Nemesis. I half expected him to belt out a, "KOMPRESSOR DOES NOT DANCE!"

Anderson's hand prints are all over the movie. The ridiculous set pieces, the sections of plotless film, the poorly written but plentiful minorities, all the Anderson trademarks are present. He even squeezes in an improbable MORTAL KOMBAT reference during a sad, sorry excuse for a fight scene (with an audience) that brings the plot to a total halt. Most troubling is when the crew finds a case in which the virus' antidote is kept. What's the case? Why, a Transformers lunch box! The mind commits suicide at the possibilities.

So there ya go. RE; APOCALYPSE is a forgettable sequel, complete with an interminable epilogue that establishes a potential third entry in the series, dangling it as some sort of bait. I didn't bite, and I advise you don't either.
post #31 of 76
New tagline:

EVIL
HAS LEFT
THE BUILDING
post #32 of 76
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
There's also good old Mike Epps, from the FRIDAY movies... good lord, if I never have to see Mike Epps in a movie again, I will consider my life to be a happy one.
Thanks for the heads up fab. Fuck Mike Epps Sony just lost 10$. I'll rent this for a 1.50$ instead. Crap that sucks about Nemesis I thought maybe they could get him right. Well I was hoping actually.
post #33 of 76
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Anderson's hand prints are all over the movie. The ridiculous set pieces, the sections of plotless film, the poorly written but plentiful minorities, all the Anderson trademarks are present. He even squeezes in an improbable MORTAL KOMBAT reference during a sad, sorry excuse for a fight scene (with an audience) that brings the plot to a total halt. Most troubling is when the crew finds a case in which the virus' antidote is kept. What's the case? Why, a Transformers lunch box! The mind commits suicide at the possibilities.
See, this may not only fail, it may take Shaun down with it, curse you Paul "Woefully Stupid" Anderson!
post #34 of 76
Nice review, fabfunk.

Well done.

post #35 of 76
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
I half expected him to belt out a, "KOMPRESSOR DOES NOT DANCE!"
hilarious!
post #36 of 76
From the review:

"This film is not directed by the fanboy Antichrist, Paul WS Anderson, but it is directed by him"
post #37 of 76
i don't get the hate.
This movie is way better than the first. (i'm a huge zombie fan though) It is just stupid fun like AVP but way more blood gore and violence. I admit the acting isn't great but the movie is based on a video game, come on. Totally enjoyable popcorn flick especially if you're a zombie fan and horror fan.

way way way better than that shitty exorcist prequel.

wait i get the hate for W.S. anderson but not this movie.
post #38 of 76
That fuckin sucked.

Being that it was written by Paul "Talentless" Anderson, I joked to my friend that Milla would make friendly like with Nemesis and team up or something. I'd say I hate being right, but it was a Resident Evil movie, so when it happened I was just like, "Oh."
post #39 of 76
He writes and directs bland movies, and AICN tells me that apparently he's marrying(and most likely nailing) Milla. That son of a bitch.
post #40 of 76
Yeah. He is and has been for awhile. I hope he puts her in some spectacularly bad drama and there's a Messenger level fallout/breakup. She needs to stop fucking her way down (not up) Hollywood's A-list director...food chain...thing. Please tell me there's no Boll balling in her future.
post #41 of 76
I hated this more than I hated Van Helsing. I swear Paul "What Script?" Anderson throws his film on the cutting room floor, pieces them back together at random, THEN puts together a shitty story. god awful flick.

anybody have the "White Noise" trailer attached...Michael Keaton...what the hell happened to you?!
post #42 of 76
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Seeing it in 40 minutes, hope i enjoy it for its sheer stupidity, RE:A seems more of an enjoyable film than RE1 cause at least it's not andersons template, it's not secluded underground getting killed in a bundles. But it is that, people will get pciked off [obviously] but RE was never really logical. It was about Jill Valentine being stalked by a big nonsensical creature in a miniskirt and tube top.

If you browse IMDB's quote section for RE:A you'll notice that most of the quotes taken from the trailer are about the "I'm good but i'm not that good" variety.

The nemesis better blow something up, and the set-up for the sequel better be ludicrous.
post #43 of 76
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Originally Posted by CryOpenupthesky
I swear Paul "What Script?" Anderson throws his film on the cutting room floor, pieces them back together at random, THEN puts together a shitty story.
What the fuck!?!?! Did you even SEE Mortal Kombat!?!?! Blasphemy!!!
post #44 of 76
Milla looks like a dude.

This movie looks like a dud.

Ha ha.
post #45 of 76
alright, so, against all odds, i actually ended up watching this tonight.

i was expecting a smoldering dollop of shit.

turns out, it is.. actually quite enjoyable. a weak first act, but it picks up and actually improves.

some action sequences are lifted straight out of the game cinematics.. and some of those were pretty good (in the game). the comic-relief guy is actually funny.. ( "motherfucker, please. my shit is custom." ) which was a huge surprise.. and i tend to like kretschman's work. didnt know he was in this. not that he had much to do, but whatever.

one thing i would definately like to add. this director, this Witt guy, is actually atleast three times as good as that fuck Anderson. this movie wasnt trying to be serious. its stupid and loud, and it knows it. from the get-go, too. unlike AVP which spent the first hour supposedly "building up" characters and plot which.. well.. which never existed on paper in the first place. which is why i thought RE:A ends up working much, MUCH better than AVP.

Seems to me Witt actually had enough intelligence to accept Anderson's script (a vast improvement over his AVP script, incidentally) for what it is: a dumb-as-nails video game adaptation. with that in mind, he got off on the right foot. on the other hand, there's Anderson, thinking of himself as the twenty-first century's answer to fucking Shakespeare.

guillory was pretty forgettable.. never quite bought her as the ass kicking type. and she kept slipping into whiny damsel-in-distress for some odd reason. youre one or the other.. not both. weird. milla does a serviceable job, though, with a pretty limited character.
the STAR guys Fehr and Ward were alright too. ( BANG. "Stay." )

the fight scenes were almost hyper-edited straight into oblivion, though. that was pretty goddamn irritating. its almost as if no one really threw a single punch or kick. the foley guys sure had a ball with the sound effects. fuckin morons.

anyway.. much better than i was expecting.. as afore-mentioned, thats not really saying much, but there you go. significantly better than 1, thats for sure.
post #46 of 76
Wow that is a lot of hate for this, I liked it. I know it’s not the greatest film but I think that some of you are looking at it wrong. I think that seeing a movie is not just about the film but you as well. This is a video game movie and must, MUST be thought of that way. Sure if you go into it thinking Kurosawa or Kubrick than yes you will be disappointed. This can happen to any film, take for instance Collateral I went into it looking for a new movie to place in my top ten of all time. I was very disappointed in the movie because it didn’t live up to that for me, was it a bad movie no not by any means, I just went into it with the wrong expectations. There are several types of movies and applying the same standards to all of them seems prejudiced, some movies are just for fun. It’s not a matter of “check your brain at the door” but is your brain set right.


Totally agree on the fight scenes though, would have been cooler if I could tell what was going on.
post #47 of 76
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i liked it surprisngly, don't get me wrong, it is crap at the start, and I kept thinking when would it end later but overall the zombies weren't that fast or slow, they were "RE speed" and it had alot of little touchs from the game, the typewriter, the cutscene from RE:CV ripped right off, Jill Valentine and her outfit.

The pimp guy uttered a Death Race 2000 reference, good for him.

The end though, at first when the chooper went down I thought "oh shit they're going to redo RE1 in the mansion, then she gets taken away "oh maybe she'll be made into one of the monsters from the later games like i dunno, Code Veronica, no instead she's taken away and touched up like the end of the first only this time she can manipulate people.

HOLY FUCK MILLA IS A JEDI NOW!

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P.S. The shaun ad played before the movie and people laughed at it moderately, then the Team america ad came on and everyone loved it except for one guy who uttered two thngs

Start of trailer: Who would watch this stuff on purpose?
End of trailer: Man people are getting more juvenile and dumb.

Some people just can't have a sense of humor, it's Team America: WORLD POICE, they fly out of mount rushmores mouth, it's about as subtle as a brick to the head.
post #48 of 76
What, I totally missed the Death Race 2000 ref. what was it?

Also the zombies climb stairs, in all the Resident Evils I've played they couldn't. I just think that it would have been funny if those rules applied in the movie to.
post #49 of 76
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Originally Posted by bigassposer
What, I totally missed the Death Race 2000 ref. what was it?

Also the zombies climb stairs, in all the Resident Evils I've played they couldn't. I just think that it would have been funny if those rules applied in the movie to.
When the pimp runs over the zombie he goes "10 points!", that made me think Death Race. If you think the stairs thing is funny imaigne if the characters walked like the game.
post #50 of 76
Ok I must have missed it because of the "GTA" line caused quite a ruckus.
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