RESIDENT EVIL: APOCALYPSE Discussion - Page 2

Well zombies could still be outside of her jedi powers as they have very little brain function so she might not be able to control them. The next one will probably be Alice fighting her programming.

Either way Epps should be back for the next one, at least at my showing he went over very well.

Somewhat decent. At least this one had something to do with the games, something that will change for the next movie, if they make one.

Man, Milla Jovovich has some really big nipples. They looked like Slim Jims.

They kinda did go with the rules of the games in at least one aspect. When Jill and Angela were in the school, they came across a door that was "blocked" by a vending machine or something. Apparently they have the same few abilities of their videogame counterparts, i.e., walk, run, shoot, perform atrocious dialogue...

It would have been cute if they had a part where, in order to open a certain door, one of the characters would have to collect 3 or 4 obscure items.

Pretty retarded, but lots of stuff blowed up real good. I might have enjoyed it a little more if the director knew the first thing about staging and filming an action scene. That, however, was not the case, so I spent half the film wondering what the fuck was going on. I also hated the stereotypical "jive wisecracking black guy" C-List Eddie Griffin character.

What I did like: Milla and Sienna's outfits. And the return of the zombie dogs.

Here's an interesting off-topic subject: what about Oded Fehr as the next Bond? Thoughts?

bigassposer:

"There are several types of movies and applying the same standards to all of them seems prejudiced; some movies are just for fun."

Judging it purely from the stand point that I dislike "zombie" films in general & cared nothing for the first one I came out of the theater more than pleasantly surprised. I actually had a BLAST watching this & am now much more comfortable with the fact that Kurt Wimmer cast Milla in UV. I did have my doubts. Not any more.

Question: if you dislike zombie films and didn't care for the previous film, why did you go see "Apocalypse"?

Because I'm an "action" junkie & the trailer captured my interest somewhat with that sequence down the side of the building. I actually almost skipped it but needed to kill about 2 and a half hours yesterday. It was the only film playing that I hadn't already seen yet (& a movie is much cheaper then one of my "shopping" trips). So, I thought I'd give it a try especially since Milla was cast in UV. Went in expecting nothing but some kewl shots (the "building run") & ended up truly enjoying myself...in the dark...alone...

Good for you Jen. I look forward to Ultraviolet too. I like a lady that enjoys a good action film as well .

A gift...

My friends, I don't think you realize what a gift this film is. Major Hollywood studios don't make movies like this anymore. It is WALL-TO-WALL action with A-list production values, but it's not bloated either! Action movies these days usually fall into one of 2 traps:

1) Not enough action and seemingly under the belief that their character & plot work are terribly interesting. Paul Anderson has fallen into this trap with virtually all of his own films.

2) Lots of action, but fucked up somehow so that it becomes BLOATED tripe. Mind-numbingly self-indulgent, over-long crap.. Usually occurs when a powerful director is given such a huge budget that he just goes nuts. I'm thinking of Van Helsing and Bad Boys 2 here.

But Resident Evil Apocalypse manages to be under the right alignment of stars.. a big enough budget to pull off stunts well, but not so much rope that they hang themselves.. a director with skills but hungry enough that he doesn't have delusions of artistic grandeur.. a property that lends itself to action & shameless use of all the fun geek stuff (double guns, monsters, explosions, etc)

I mean, it's so delightfully gonzo and without shame. You think Michael Mann would've dared to use the "good ol' country boy as a police sniper" bit? That's usually the realm of syndicated TV and Michael Pare direct-to-video movies! But it's here and surrounded by big budget renditions of cheesy action gags... multiple exploding helicopters, vulcan minigun action, running on walls, etc. And when something shows up, it actually gets used to the extent that a crazed action fan would want. The Nemesis shows up and he actually gets to blast away with rocket launchers and the minigun repeatedly. Two genetically enhanced creatures show up and the flimsiest of reasons are cooked to allow them to fight like hell. SWAT shows up and they get to fire their machine guns like there's a sale on brass.

Yeah, the action is over-edited in that shitty style which is popular these days, but at least enough of a thread was left in so that momentum and tension could be built. That's all you can hope for these days. It'll work better on the small screen.

If you're an action fan, a real action fan, then you have to recognize what a gift RE: Apocalypse is. If every film were like this, then we'd have a problem. But as an occasional trash action excursion, it's perfect.

You almost make me want to see this viagra almost. Mike Epps compels me to stay the hell away.

Well, Mike Epps is indeed used for the exact kind of "awww haill no" comedy that you'd expect. On the other hand, this movie has no time for anything but action and thrills. I didn't realize Epps was supposed to be a main character until his 3rd appearance in the film. That's how little time they spend setting his character up. Also, some of his jokes would've been kind of funny IMHO, but people in this thread ruined them for me already.

reverse_viagra:

"My friends, I don't think you realize what a gift this film is. Major Hollywood studios don't make movies like this anymore."

See the "Matrix" trilogy.

The Matrix has wall-to-wall action? Also, bloated self-indulgence and the Matrix trilogy go together like whores and Charlie Sheen.

In other words, I wasn't talking about the visual effects; I was talking about the style of film.

I think number 2 negates the Matrix Trilogy. Let me remind you...

"2) Lots of action, but fucked up somehow so that it becomes BLOATED tripe. Mind-numbingly self-indulgent, over-long crap.. Usually occurs when a powerful director is given such a huge budget that he just goes nuts. I'm thinking of Van Helsing and Bad Boys 2 here."

I hated this movie, but this is a rare instance where I'm not gonna put up the "the movie sucked and that's final" argument. His posts are multi-syllabic and actually coherent, so I say let him stay in his own personal Candy Land and walk away.

Did you even see the film? Valentine had hips and boobs..

"Hollywood doesn't make movies like this anymore"? Hollywood ONLY makes movies like this these days. Noisy, idiotic, and based on a video game.

You know what I'd like to see? Paul T. Anderson and Paul W. S. Anderson each conceiving a movie and writing a script, then switching places to direct each others' movie. That would be hilarious.

"Mike Tyson's Punch-Drunk"

Just kidding. It just seemed too applicable to at least her acting ability.

Oh, come on. You know that I specified exactly on what criteria the film was unique in my eyes. If you ignore that premise (as you've done above), then it's pointless for you to harp on my remaining words. If you want to respond to me, then respond to my points; don't just quote me out of context to set up a pithy retort. If you do that, you may as well just quote the single word "movie" and then attack Comic-Book-Guy-style with something like, "You call that a movie? I thought they were running a roll of used toilet paper through the projector."

In any case, let me respond to your idea. You can abstract until you find commonalities between any two films. That doesn't mean they are the same.

Hellboy - Noisy, terribly concerned with visuals, and based on a comic book.
Catwoman - Noisy, terribly concerned with visuals, and based on a comic book.

Can you tell the difference between those 2 movies? I hope you can like any self-respecting movie geek, but there are some who can't. It's just the same old shit to them. They lack the taste to distinguish them. Well, maybe you lack the fine taste (and by "fine" I just mean sensitivity, not superior/high class) in action filmmaking to distinguish between RE:Apoc and other action trash... Or maybe you do, but u don't agree with my points. If that's the case, then show me the basic courtesy of saying that instead of just going to the cheap comment.

JenGe Chick Flick Destroyer:

"I think number two negates the 'Matrix' trilogy. Let me remind you...

" '2) Lots of action, but fucked up somehow so that it becomes BLOATED tripe. Mind-numbingly self-indulgent, over-long crap. Usually occurs when a powerful director is given such a huge budget that he just goes nuts. I'm thinking of "Van Helsing" and "Bad Boys 2" here.' "

Oh, you're right -- substance makes a film bloated, just like "Van Helsing" and "Bad Boys 2." Man, I haven't been challenged, either intellectually or spiritually, like I was when watching those two films.

I don't see how I could possibly be right about this since I was but reminding someone about another person's quote & context of the comment he was responding to. But if you say so...I'll be right.

I went to see this last night, and I came out pretty satisfied. I mean, I knew what to expect and I got everything I came for.

a) Milla Jovovich

b) Zombies and cheap CGI monsters (the CGI gave me a few chuckles)

c) Violent action sequences with lots of guns and explosions

d) Loud music

e) Cheesy bad acting

f) A confused and almost non-existent plot that only helped add to the cheese factor

g) Gore (although I was wishing for a lot more)



All in all it was a fun stupid action movie, I liked it a hell of a lot better than the first one and I wouldn't mind seeing the third when it comes out.

^Agreed^. Although I think I liked the first one more. I didn't care for the cemetery "uprising" scene. I still prefer the Romeroesque reanimation of the RECENTLY DECEASED thing. As opposed to the much less believable Return-of-the-living-dead type ANYTHING EVAR DECEASED reanimation thing.

Also, I thought they did too much of that 'close-up-blurred-fast-action-can'treallytellwho'sdoingwhat' photography. That makes me dizzy a bit.

I'll see the 3rd one.