This is actually making me look forward to going back to work so I can grab it. Can't wait. Think Ill have to have a marathon and watch all the versions in a row. There's 3 right?
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Yep, 4 if you throw in Savini's NOTLD remake, which I was thinking of adding in.
PS-Got the discs 3 days ago. My local FYE put them out by mistake. I swooped on 'em pretty quick.
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i heard that there's no new scenes...
that the u.s. theatrical is the best version of the movie...
was i misinformed?
that the u.s. theatrical is the best version of the movie...
was i misinformed?
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Romero always considered the US version the best of the versions out there. There is a longer "director's cut" that was cut for Cannes, thus has only library music in it, no Goblin. Also, the European version supervised by Argento, which runs at a lean time, much shorter, and is entirely scored by Goblin. All 3 versions are in the set.
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They all have their own merits, really. The European one is a bit on the annoying side with the beating over the head of Goblin, and it's missing the helicopter zombie scene, but it's worth checking out, for sure. I haven't watched the extended cut yet, but I get a feeling it's the most frustrating.
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The extended cut is the only version I'd ever seen until recently, and I absolutely fucking loved it, so for me, it's hard to watch any other version without missing stuff.
I can't afford the 3 disc set for a while, so I got the Divimax single disc theatrical cut off eBay, and while a lot slicker than the extended cut, I can't help but miss what's not there. And there is a few cues from Goblin in the extended version, but not as many as the theatrical. The best and most prolific ones are, though.
I'm the same with Army of Darkness. The European cut is about 6 or 7 minutes longer than the theatrical version; I CAN'T STAND the theatrical version. Hardly any music cue plays in it's entirety and it's just so truncated. That said, it has the 2 best lines in any film ever in it (the "I'm the guy with ther gun" and "Chinese jet pilot" lines
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I can't afford the 3 disc set for a while, so I got the Divimax single disc theatrical cut off eBay, and while a lot slicker than the extended cut, I can't help but miss what's not there. And there is a few cues from Goblin in the extended version, but not as many as the theatrical. The best and most prolific ones are, though.
I'm the same with Army of Darkness. The European cut is about 6 or 7 minutes longer than the theatrical version; I CAN'T STAND the theatrical version. Hardly any music cue plays in it's entirety and it's just so truncated. That said, it has the 2 best lines in any film ever in it (the "I'm the guy with ther gun" and "Chinese jet pilot" lines
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I've only ever seen the theatrical release so the other versions will be new to me. Love the packaging. Might even top videodrome.
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I'm really looking forward to the set also ... DAWN OF THE DEAD is one of the rare horror films that transcends the genre and has achieved greatness amongst the best films of all-time ... ( not that there is anything wrong with being just a good ol' horror film ie the remake ) ...
This is probably old news, but I found this article interesting, esp the last paragraph, and how Argento's end put up half the bugdet ( compared to George's 25 grand ) ...
Most screenplays average out to a minute (on-screen) per page but George’s 253 page script, which would run around two and a half to three hours, is overly detailed with descriptions of everything from the wall to the store displays. A good example is the opening sequence in the T.V. station, which is five minutes on screen, but 19 pages long in script form.
Romero likens the tenements of Philadelphia to tombstones against the sky, and apparently wanted exterior shots of the buildings at night which didn’t happen. Instead, a scene of the moon in the night sky was shot.
The way Roger meets Peter is different also. Roger finds shelter in a fire stair where he retches over a railing. There at the top of the stairs is Peter who tells him "you’re not alone brother." Furthermore, instead of the door opening and the priest emerging, Roger and Peter jump at the sound of steps coming up and coughing. Additional dialogue followed as well; the Priest confirms that Martinez is dead.
In the cellar door scene where zombie arms punch through the boards, the shock is intended to be quick not delayed with the S.W.A.T. reactions as in the Argento edits. The zombies are not described in terms of makeup; just ‘wide eyed and terrifying’. Romero mentions that should be of all ages and mainly black or Puerto Rican.
The National Guardsmen that find Roger and Peter in the basement shines a light down. A young child’s corpse is described writhing in a shroud, missing a foot. Peter kills the corpse and there’s additional dialogue about the nature of zombie behavior. Roger observes that they attack each other, Peter pointing out only the fresh ones do, before they revive.
In the police dock scene, Romero wanted to show the city in the moonlight. He writes that only a few buildings have lights on. The chain on the dock used to restrict the area has been broken and is dangling. A sign reads: CITY OF PHILADELPHIA - POLICE - NO ADMITTANCE. Corpses of officers are lying around, obviously murdered by gunshots to the head to prevent re-activation. A bell buoy rings in the distance and then the sound of the helicopter. When the four leave in the helicopter, overhead nighttime shots of Independence Hall, Betsy Ross’ House, waving the original American flag…
Upon landing in the airfield, a newsprint blows against a window in a shed the falls away. The infamous bald airport zombie seen later was to appear at the window. Notes on the charthouse bulletin board are explicitly described such as LUCY - GONE TO JOHNSTOWN. CHARLES - I HAVE THE KIDS. LEFT WITH BEN. COULDN'T WAIT. GONE TO ERIE - JACK FOSTER. A banging on the closet door from inside leads to a skeleton key falling out of the lock and to the floor. Peter notices a caked blood stain where blood recently ran out from under the door.
Fran at one point stares into the staring eyes of the lead zombie. She is described as ‘almost hypnotized’ implying a close-up shot that never was shot. Steve was to retrieve a large sledgehammer out of the hangar, which would have made more of a mess of the zombie’s skull. The children that attack Peter were to be more gruesome than they would eventually become: one has no left arm; the other has been bleeding from a great wound in his side.
On the mall roof shortly after their arrival, when Steve remarks about their instinct, he observes some zombies trying to shake the store gates open inside. A female zombie wanders out of an appliance store dragging a toaster behind her, pulling it by its cable.
After handing Fran the gun while they look around in the mall, Peter tells her that if someone other than him or Roger come up the stairs, to take off in the helicopter and that they can try to meet them out in the parking lot.
When the power and Muzak is turned on, on one of the floor exhibits Romero envisioned a rear-projection film about suburban real estate: ‘and for prices which anyone can afford, you can live in these luxurious new homes by Brandon. Fully electric, central air, …‘ Racing to the department store, an armless female zombie walks toward the troopers. Roger fires and kills the ghoul. Roger’s line ‘I need lighter fluid’ was not in this draft.
After moving through the air ducts, the men drop down through a ceiling grid. There’s a corpse of a president in a plush office. He had some days earlier, shot himself in the head.
Peter reminds Steve that the dead have a big advantage of them. "They don’t think…no emotions." He compares the increasing amount of dead people (natural causes, people dying due to violence in the crisis) to the emperor’s reward.
After talking about abortion, Steve walks in and sees Fran smoking (while she’s pregnant!). She asks what happened to growing vegetables and fishing in a wilderness far from anybody, a reference to their plans to move to Canada before this crisis started. She is the first to think that the mall may be a prison in disguise. At one point after this conversation, before cutting to the "zombie montage", there’s a sound on the stairwell of footsteps of a zombie that apparently turned around and went back down the steps. Peter tells Roger that the helicopter may give their existence in the mall away and Roger mentions how in Philly they saw an abandoned boat in the middle of Independence Square, which sat useless for eight days.
* Roger’s dialogue, on the roof with the men peering through binoculars includes a comment about Steve not being on the street at all (making the Argento cut’s scene closer to how Romero envisioned the scene originally).
* Peter explains that the vaults usually open at nine automatically "to keep the bankers honest". Once all the zombies are killed inside the mall and the humans have met up on a balcony, Steve ponders what future archaeologists are going to think if they dig the place up. "Maybe they'll figure it's all some kind of offering to the gods...like in the pyramids...a burial chamber." Peter replies that it is now.
Roger is not buried in one of the mall gardens but instead is placed in the bank vault. After the bank scene, Fran’s puppy Adam is introduced, innocently urinating on a table.
Romero included raider descriptions, he wanted them to look like banditos and specifically wanted one to wear a sombrero. The men wear ammunition belts and surplus clothing.
* Fran listens to the noise of the motorcycles and mayhem. She is waiting at the top of the fire stair, with her weapons. On the landing below, the puppy barks. She calls the dog, but it will not run back.
* The raider leader refers to another as Charlie, ordering him to hit the gates to get the ‘sniper’. He also orders his men to hold off them zombies (the first and only instance of the word in Romero’s films).
* After breaking through the offices, a raider comes to the fake wall panel and assumes it goes nowhere when he hears the faint barking. Suddenly his attention focuses on the corridor where three ghouls are coming. He fires and knocks off the ghouls one at a time and runs onto the balcony.
* The cyclist that Peter kills in the filmed version as he rides off out of the entrance is the tommy gun biker in the sidecar. In the script, Peter’s victim is the biker leader, who whoops victorious as he leaves the mall just before his demise.
* The puppy Adam growls as if it is hearing something approaching. He runs down the stairs and we hear the yelping of the puppy as it presumably is preyed on by the mob of dead creatures.
The ending is infamous, more downbeat but less ironic than Night of the Living Dead’s. Fran starts the helicopter engine; Peter kills himself in the storage room. His suicide was not to be witnessed, only a gunshot is heard. The zombies push through the door and move in to consume Peter – which we also were not to see. Fran - staring at the horde of zombies approaching her - stands up straight on the running board. Her head goes right into the spinning blades of the helicopter and we see a headless body fall. In a wide shot that would have depicted the first light of dawn as the dead consumed Fran’s body, the credits crawl up. And after they end, the engine of the helicopter sputters and dies too.
Due to Martin’s poor box office, Laurel was unable to attract investors for Dawn until Irvin Shapiro, the company’s foreign distribution representative sent Romero’s still unfinished script to Alfredo Cuomo, a producer based in Rome, Italy. Cuomo turned it over to producer Claudio Argento who in turn let his director-brother Dario read it. The Argentos were behind Italian horror films The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (70), Cat O’Nine Tails (71), Four Flies on Grey Velvet (72), Deep Red (76) and Suspiria (77).
The Argentos were both big fans of Night of the Living Dead and excited to know a sequel was going to be made; they automatically wanted to be associated with the project. They were eager to see the script finished so Romero flew out to Rome to do so, with Dario Argento acting as ‘script consultant’. Fortunately he wanted very few changes. Claudio Argento and Alfredo Cuomo negotiated with Rubinstein and upon approving and initialling each page of the rewrite, contributed half of the $1.5 million budget. In exchange, all European and Asian licensing would be belong to them. When Romero returned to the States, both he and Rubinstein invested $25,000 each, and found the remaining investments through relatives and friends.
This is probably old news, but I found this article interesting, esp the last paragraph, and how Argento's end put up half the bugdet ( compared to George's 25 grand ) ...
Most screenplays average out to a minute (on-screen) per page but George’s 253 page script, which would run around two and a half to three hours, is overly detailed with descriptions of everything from the wall to the store displays. A good example is the opening sequence in the T.V. station, which is five minutes on screen, but 19 pages long in script form.
Romero likens the tenements of Philadelphia to tombstones against the sky, and apparently wanted exterior shots of the buildings at night which didn’t happen. Instead, a scene of the moon in the night sky was shot.
The way Roger meets Peter is different also. Roger finds shelter in a fire stair where he retches over a railing. There at the top of the stairs is Peter who tells him "you’re not alone brother." Furthermore, instead of the door opening and the priest emerging, Roger and Peter jump at the sound of steps coming up and coughing. Additional dialogue followed as well; the Priest confirms that Martinez is dead.
In the cellar door scene where zombie arms punch through the boards, the shock is intended to be quick not delayed with the S.W.A.T. reactions as in the Argento edits. The zombies are not described in terms of makeup; just ‘wide eyed and terrifying’. Romero mentions that should be of all ages and mainly black or Puerto Rican.
The National Guardsmen that find Roger and Peter in the basement shines a light down. A young child’s corpse is described writhing in a shroud, missing a foot. Peter kills the corpse and there’s additional dialogue about the nature of zombie behavior. Roger observes that they attack each other, Peter pointing out only the fresh ones do, before they revive.
In the police dock scene, Romero wanted to show the city in the moonlight. He writes that only a few buildings have lights on. The chain on the dock used to restrict the area has been broken and is dangling. A sign reads: CITY OF PHILADELPHIA - POLICE - NO ADMITTANCE. Corpses of officers are lying around, obviously murdered by gunshots to the head to prevent re-activation. A bell buoy rings in the distance and then the sound of the helicopter. When the four leave in the helicopter, overhead nighttime shots of Independence Hall, Betsy Ross’ House, waving the original American flag…
Upon landing in the airfield, a newsprint blows against a window in a shed the falls away. The infamous bald airport zombie seen later was to appear at the window. Notes on the charthouse bulletin board are explicitly described such as LUCY - GONE TO JOHNSTOWN. CHARLES - I HAVE THE KIDS. LEFT WITH BEN. COULDN'T WAIT. GONE TO ERIE - JACK FOSTER. A banging on the closet door from inside leads to a skeleton key falling out of the lock and to the floor. Peter notices a caked blood stain where blood recently ran out from under the door.
Fran at one point stares into the staring eyes of the lead zombie. She is described as ‘almost hypnotized’ implying a close-up shot that never was shot. Steve was to retrieve a large sledgehammer out of the hangar, which would have made more of a mess of the zombie’s skull. The children that attack Peter were to be more gruesome than they would eventually become: one has no left arm; the other has been bleeding from a great wound in his side.
On the mall roof shortly after their arrival, when Steve remarks about their instinct, he observes some zombies trying to shake the store gates open inside. A female zombie wanders out of an appliance store dragging a toaster behind her, pulling it by its cable.
After handing Fran the gun while they look around in the mall, Peter tells her that if someone other than him or Roger come up the stairs, to take off in the helicopter and that they can try to meet them out in the parking lot.
When the power and Muzak is turned on, on one of the floor exhibits Romero envisioned a rear-projection film about suburban real estate: ‘and for prices which anyone can afford, you can live in these luxurious new homes by Brandon. Fully electric, central air, …‘ Racing to the department store, an armless female zombie walks toward the troopers. Roger fires and kills the ghoul. Roger’s line ‘I need lighter fluid’ was not in this draft.
After moving through the air ducts, the men drop down through a ceiling grid. There’s a corpse of a president in a plush office. He had some days earlier, shot himself in the head.
Peter reminds Steve that the dead have a big advantage of them. "They don’t think…no emotions." He compares the increasing amount of dead people (natural causes, people dying due to violence in the crisis) to the emperor’s reward.
After talking about abortion, Steve walks in and sees Fran smoking (while she’s pregnant!). She asks what happened to growing vegetables and fishing in a wilderness far from anybody, a reference to their plans to move to Canada before this crisis started. She is the first to think that the mall may be a prison in disguise. At one point after this conversation, before cutting to the "zombie montage", there’s a sound on the stairwell of footsteps of a zombie that apparently turned around and went back down the steps. Peter tells Roger that the helicopter may give their existence in the mall away and Roger mentions how in Philly they saw an abandoned boat in the middle of Independence Square, which sat useless for eight days.
* Roger’s dialogue, on the roof with the men peering through binoculars includes a comment about Steve not being on the street at all (making the Argento cut’s scene closer to how Romero envisioned the scene originally).
* Peter explains that the vaults usually open at nine automatically "to keep the bankers honest". Once all the zombies are killed inside the mall and the humans have met up on a balcony, Steve ponders what future archaeologists are going to think if they dig the place up. "Maybe they'll figure it's all some kind of offering to the gods...like in the pyramids...a burial chamber." Peter replies that it is now.
Roger is not buried in one of the mall gardens but instead is placed in the bank vault. After the bank scene, Fran’s puppy Adam is introduced, innocently urinating on a table.
Romero included raider descriptions, he wanted them to look like banditos and specifically wanted one to wear a sombrero. The men wear ammunition belts and surplus clothing.
* Fran listens to the noise of the motorcycles and mayhem. She is waiting at the top of the fire stair, with her weapons. On the landing below, the puppy barks. She calls the dog, but it will not run back.
* The raider leader refers to another as Charlie, ordering him to hit the gates to get the ‘sniper’. He also orders his men to hold off them zombies (the first and only instance of the word in Romero’s films).
* After breaking through the offices, a raider comes to the fake wall panel and assumes it goes nowhere when he hears the faint barking. Suddenly his attention focuses on the corridor where three ghouls are coming. He fires and knocks off the ghouls one at a time and runs onto the balcony.
* The cyclist that Peter kills in the filmed version as he rides off out of the entrance is the tommy gun biker in the sidecar. In the script, Peter’s victim is the biker leader, who whoops victorious as he leaves the mall just before his demise.
* The puppy Adam growls as if it is hearing something approaching. He runs down the stairs and we hear the yelping of the puppy as it presumably is preyed on by the mob of dead creatures.
The ending is infamous, more downbeat but less ironic than Night of the Living Dead’s. Fran starts the helicopter engine; Peter kills himself in the storage room. His suicide was not to be witnessed, only a gunshot is heard. The zombies push through the door and move in to consume Peter – which we also were not to see. Fran - staring at the horde of zombies approaching her - stands up straight on the running board. Her head goes right into the spinning blades of the helicopter and we see a headless body fall. In a wide shot that would have depicted the first light of dawn as the dead consumed Fran’s body, the credits crawl up. And after they end, the engine of the helicopter sputters and dies too.
Due to Martin’s poor box office, Laurel was unable to attract investors for Dawn until Irvin Shapiro, the company’s foreign distribution representative sent Romero’s still unfinished script to Alfredo Cuomo, a producer based in Rome, Italy. Cuomo turned it over to producer Claudio Argento who in turn let his director-brother Dario read it. The Argentos were behind Italian horror films The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (70), Cat O’Nine Tails (71), Four Flies on Grey Velvet (72), Deep Red (76) and Suspiria (77).
The Argentos were both big fans of Night of the Living Dead and excited to know a sequel was going to be made; they automatically wanted to be associated with the project. They were eager to see the script finished so Romero flew out to Rome to do so, with Dario Argento acting as ‘script consultant’. Fortunately he wanted very few changes. Claudio Argento and Alfredo Cuomo negotiated with Rubinstein and upon approving and initialling each page of the rewrite, contributed half of the $1.5 million budget. In exchange, all European and Asian licensing would be belong to them. When Romero returned to the States, both he and Rubinstein invested $25,000 each, and found the remaining investments through relatives and friends.
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I prefer the Argento cut. I also have to disagree with Johnny; I love Goblin's stuff all the way through the film.
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Romero likens the tenements of Philadelphia to tombstones against the sky, and apparently wanted exterior shots of the buildings at night which didn’t happen. Instead, a scene of the moon in the night sky was shot. The way Roger meets Peter is different also. Roger finds shelter in a fire stair where he retches over a railing. There at the top of the stairs is Peter who tells him "you’re not alone brother." Furthermore, instead of the door opening and the priest emerging, Roger and Peter jump at the sound of steps coming up and coughing. Additional dialogue followed as well; the Priest confirms that Martinez is dead. In the cellar door scene where zombie arms punch through the boards, the shock is intended to be quick not delayed with the S.W.A.T. reactions as in the Argento edits. The zombies are not described in terms of makeup; just ‘wide eyed and terrifying’. Romero mentions that should be of all ages and mainly black or Puerto Rican. The National Guardsmen that find Roger and Peter in the basement shines a light down. A young child’s corpse is described writhing in a shroud, missing a foot. Peter kills the corpse and there’s additional dialogue about the nature of zombie behavior. Roger observes that they attack each other, Peter pointing out only the fresh ones do, before they revive. In the police dock scene, Romero wanted to show the city in the moonlight. He writes that only a few buildings have lights on. The chain on the dock used to restrict the area has been broken and is dangling. A sign reads: CITY OF PHILADELPHIA - POLICE - NO ADMITTANCE. Corpses of officers are lying around, obviously murdered by gunshots to the head to prevent re-activation. A bell buoy rings in the distance and then the sound of the helicopter. When the four leave in the helicopter, overhead nighttime shots of Independence Hall, Betsy Ross’ House, waving the original American flag… Upon landing in the airfield, a newsprint blows against a window in a shed the falls away. The infamous bald airport zombie seen later was to appear at the window. Notes on the charthouse bulletin board are explicitly described such as LUCY - GONE TO JOHNSTOWN. CHARLES - I HAVE THE KIDS. LEFT WITH BEN. COULDN'T WAIT. GONE TO ERIE - JACK FOSTER. A banging on the closet door from inside leads to a skeleton key falling out of the lock and to the floor. Peter notices a caked blood stain where blood recently ran out from under the door. Fran at one point stares into the staring eyes of the lead zombie. She is described as ‘almost hypnotized’ implying a close-up shot that never was shot. Steve was to retrieve a large sledgehammer out of the hangar, which would have made more of a mess of the zombie’s skull. The children that attack Peter were to be more gruesome than they would eventually become: one has no left arm; the other has been bleeding from a great wound in his side. On the mall roof shortly after their arrival, when Steve remarks about their instinct, he observes some zombies trying to shake the store gates open inside. A female zombie wanders out of an appliance store dragging a toaster behind her, pulling it by its cable. After handing Fran the gun while they look around in the mall, Peter tells her that if someone other than him or Roger come up the stairs, to take off in the helicopter and that they can try to meet them out in the parking lot. When the power and Muzak is turned on, on one of the floor exhibits Romero envisioned a rear-projection film about suburban real estate: ‘and for prices which anyone can afford, you can live in these luxurious new homes by Brandon. Fully electric, central air, …‘ Racing to the department store, an armless female zombie walks toward the troopers. Roger fires and kills the ghoul. Roger’s line ‘I need lighter fluid’ was not in this draft. After moving through the air ducts, the men drop down through a ceiling grid. There’s a corpse of a president in a plush office. He had some days earlier, shot himself in the head. Peter reminds Steve that the dead have a big advantage of them. "They don’t think…no emotions." He compares the increasing amount of dead people (natural causes, people dying due to violence in the crisis) to the emperor’s reward. After talking about abortion, Steve walks in and sees Fran smoking (while she’s pregnant!). She asks what happened to growing vegetables and fishing in a wilderness far from anybody, a reference to their plans to move to Canada before this crisis started. She is the first to think that the mall may be a prison in disguise. At one point after this conversation, before cutting to the "zombie montage", there’s a sound on the stairwell of footsteps of a zombie that apparently turned around and went back down the steps. Peter tells Roger that the helicopter may give their existence in the mall away and Roger mentions how in Philly they saw an abandoned boat in the middle of Independence Square, which sat useless for eight days. * Roger’s dialogue, on the roof with the men peering through binoculars includes a comment about Steve not being on the street at all (making the Argento cut’s scene closer to how Romero envisioned the scene originally). * Peter explains that the vaults usually open at nine automatically "to keep the bankers honest". Once all the zombies are killed inside the mall and the humans have met up on a balcony, Steve ponders what future archaeologists are going to think if they dig the place up. "Maybe they'll figure it's all some kind of offering to the gods...like in the pyramids...a burial chamber." Peter replies that it is now. Roger is not buried in one of the mall gardens but instead is placed in the bank vault. After the bank scene, Fran’s puppy Adam is introduced, innocently urinating on a table. Romero included raider descriptions, he wanted them to look like banditos and specifically wanted one to wear a sombrero. The men wear ammunition belts and surplus clothing. * Fran listens to the noise of the motorcycles and mayhem. She is waiting at the top of the fire stair, with her weapons. On the landing below, the puppy barks. She calls the dog, but it will not run back. * The raider leader refers to another as Charlie, ordering him to hit the gates to get the ‘sniper’. He also orders his men to hold off them zombies (the first and only instance of the word in Romero’s films). * After breaking through the offices, a raider comes to the fake wall panel and assumes it goes nowhere when he hears the faint barking. Suddenly his attention focuses on the corridor where three ghouls are coming. He fires and knocks off the ghouls one at a time and runs onto the balcony. * The cyclist that Peter kills in the filmed version as he rides off out of the entrance is the tommy gun biker in the sidecar. In the script, Peter’s victim is the biker leader, who whoops victorious as he leaves the mall just before his demise. * The puppy Adam growls as if it is hearing something approaching. He runs down the stairs and we hear the yelping of the puppy as it presumably is preyed on by the mob of dead creatures. The ending is infamous, more downbeat but less ironic than Night of the Living Dead’s. Fran starts the helicopter engine; Peter kills himself in the storage room. His suicide was not to be witnessed, only a gunshot is heard. The zombies push through the door and move in to consume Peter – which we also were not to see. Fran - staring at the horde of zombies approaching her - stands up straight on the running board. Her head goes right into the spinning blades of the helicopter and we see a headless body fall. In a wide shot that would have depicted the first light of dawn as the dead consumed Fran’s body, the credits crawl up. And after they end, the engine of the helicopter sputters and dies too. Due to Martin’s poor box office, Laurel was unable to attract investors for Dawn until Irvin Shapiro, the company’s foreign distribution representative sent Romero’s still unfinished script to Alfredo Cuomo, a producer based in Rome, Italy. Cuomo turned it over to producer Claudio Argento who in turn let his director-brother Dario read it. The Argentos were behind Italian horror films The Bird with the Crystal Plumage (70), Cat O’Nine Tails (71), Four Flies on Grey Velvet (72), Deep Red (76) and Suspiria (77). |
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I'm the same with Army of Darkness. The European cut is about 6 or 7 minutes longer than the theatrical version; I CAN'T STAND the theatrical version. Hardly any music cue plays in it's entirety and it's just so truncated. That said, it has the 2 best lines in any film ever in it (the "I'm the guy with ther gun" and "Chinese jet pilot" lines
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I'm not a fan of the AOD director's cut. The extended windmill stuff is wonderful, and some of the scenes from the euro cut should stay, but it just goes on for a bit too long and loses some of its pacing.
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I can't fucking wait to get this. It's gunna be expensive though. Sigh, I spend some much fucking money on movies. I just bought King of New York, and I'm gunna have to get a real job if I want to keep this rate up through the winter(I mow lawns.)
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It is going to be even more expensive for me now that I know SSSSssss comes out the same day. Having a real job might get you more money but then you just have more bills to go along with it so it doesn't seem to help much.
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How do you think I feel?
Dawn 4 disc-er, Shaun of the Dead, Clerks X, Jersey Girl are all on my want list and all come out on the same day. Also I just learned that the score to Joe Dante's Piranha is now available on CD and I still need to get Orca: Killer Whale that came out last week.
Add to that an ever expanding eBay bill (Damn, that thing is addictive) and I'm well and truly fucked.
And I don't even have a job.
This is why the Euro cut should be released on DVD. It's got most of the important stuff whilst maintaining the briskness of the theatrical cut. Everyone's a winner.
Dawn 4 disc-er, Shaun of the Dead, Clerks X, Jersey Girl are all on my want list and all come out on the same day. Also I just learned that the score to Joe Dante's Piranha is now available on CD and I still need to get Orca: Killer Whale that came out last week.
Add to that an ever expanding eBay bill (Damn, that thing is addictive) and I'm well and truly fucked.
And I don't even have a job.
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Wow, thank god I got a job last week.
Agression, i'm fairly sure you can wait for Jersey Girl last.
Agression, i'm fairly sure you can wait for Jersey Girl last.
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Dawn of the Frickin Dead
Arrghhh. I just bought the single disc three months or so ago. So sue me, I'm a broke bastard. Anywho, the European cut is mentioned, but does this new super special double secret edition contain the director's cut that was released on video a couple of years ago? It's actually the cut that plays on cable, albeit the myriad of digital showtimes or whatever, and is simply more greusome, which is great mind you, but really does not change the narrative that much. Wanna get drunk? Play the head shot drinking game with this movie, you'll be damn hammered by the time they clean out the mall.
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dawn of the dead ultimate
well we are all crazy here at bub towers cause we know are ultimate edition has been sent out to arive any day now.....oh my god i cant believe its finally coming, ive only been waiting two years for this. it will sit pretty in my zombie dvd collection - right in the middle where it belongs - with the new two disc zombi2 on its right and divimax day of the dead on its left. Anyone who has ever read the novelisation of dawn or the script for that matter would already know about the puppy and the slightly different bits and the alternative ending - which (if you listen to Tom Savivni's comm track on the british release) he says was certainly filmed- if this is the case then the ultimate edition isnt as ultimate as we might like. By the way did i read somewhere in this thread that someone thought goblins music was detrimental to this movie.... that rates and one of the most universally bad desicions in the entire universe and i demand an explanation for this blasphemy.
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Mine's here! Greatness abounds!
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huh? Come again?
ah.... aaaah............. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! P... PUR....... PURPLE MUSHROOMHEAD MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEARGH!!!!!!!! |
hrmmm .... over time, I've figured out how much trucks cost, what's inside a girl, and the legend of the seven golden vampires ... but what on earth does your penis have to do with DAWN OF THE DEAD ???
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God this is gonna be an expensive couple weeks for me. So, Charles.....does it rock hard?
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There's also the RE SE on the 7th for the few that might be interested. No extra footage except for a kinder, gentler ending means a no buy for me.
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I swear, if that was P.W.'s decision to throw something like that in there, then he deserves the villagers at his door with torches. That had better been the studio's call.
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It's ALWAYS the studio's fault with PWSA. It's his get-out clause when people wake up to what a lame director he is.
Back on topic, this set is beauty defined. The documentary is awesome, and it's great to have the ZOMBIE cut in anamorphic 5.1.
Back on topic, this set is beauty defined. The documentary is awesome, and it's great to have the ZOMBIE cut in anamorphic 5.1.
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Just picked up my set at Best Buy over here neaer Wheaton... took the day off work..im "sick".. mwuhahaha
Dawn of the Dead Day has begun...
also ran to Borders and picked up Terror Train as Best Buy did not get it..A@#holes.
and in the mail today should be arriving: Ginger Snaps Back, Clerks: 3 disc, and Punisher...
but Dawn owns the day!
Dawn of the Dead Day has begun...
also ran to Borders and picked up Terror Train as Best Buy did not get it..A@#holes.
and in the mail today should be arriving: Ginger Snaps Back, Clerks: 3 disc, and Punisher...
but Dawn owns the day!
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I might have to do that tomorrow. I didn't even realize Ginger Snaps Back came out as well so I grabbed that too. Looked for SSSSssss but no luck. Might have to order that on the internet but I'll hit Tower Records before I do that. The packaging is awesome on Dawn of the Dead. I've been waiting so long for this thing I can't believe it's finally here.
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Hey, Floyd...did you pick yours up from the Best Buy on Butterfield...i ran into another horror nut there..commented on my Fulci bumper stickers...was wondering if it was someone from the boards
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Nope West Chicago I think it is. You have Fulci bumper stickers? Cool. Where did you get those?
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got em from Rottencotton.com . im sure you've heard of them..they got a lot of sick n twisted horror gear.
just watched "The Dead Will Walk" documentary... very cool! it was nice to see HOW MANY people who worked and acted in Dawn participated in the doc. It also covered so many aspects of making the movie. Im now watching Document of the Dead..... also enjoyed the Tour of the Mall with the actors. Very cool to see the spots made famous from the movie ...well famous to us horror nuts i mean..
just watched "The Dead Will Walk" documentary... very cool! it was nice to see HOW MANY people who worked and acted in Dawn participated in the doc. It also covered so many aspects of making the movie. Im now watching Document of the Dead..... also enjoyed the Tour of the Mall with the actors. Very cool to see the spots made famous from the movie ...well famous to us horror nuts i mean..
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I got mine at Best Buy earlier but work beckoned and I've been able to do nothing with it other than look through the packaging. It's been horror DVD week for me, and it may not be over yet.
The past seven days I bought:
The Shining
Two Evil Eyes (LE) (used)
Dawn of the Dead (Ultimate Ed)
still looking for The Changling on DVD.
The past seven days I bought:
The Shining
Two Evil Eyes (LE) (used)
Dawn of the Dead (Ultimate Ed)
still looking for The Changling on DVD.
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I'm gunna buy it this weekend since I have plenty of cash now. (Got paid for picking up my neighbors mail) Looking forward to this is gunna get me through the school week.
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Great review, but how this...

...didn't end up being an Indiana Jones reference I have NO idea.

...didn't end up being an Indiana Jones reference I have NO idea.
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Just got into it today. I've bought so many movies over the past few weeks that it's been real hard to watch all of them. I checked out the "European cut" since it's the only version I've yet to see. Decent cut but the music selection was awful. Way too much Goblin music and not even at the right times.
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Got it and I can't wait to start watching it. That comic it comes with is pretty slick, and the map of the mall is a nice touch. This is one of the 3 best DvDs I own and I havent even watched it yet.
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Anchor Bay's Michael Felsher was promoting the hell out of this baby at Horrorfind Weekend in August. There were a few copies floating around then but I wasn't lucky enough to get picked for the Dawn trivia contest for a chance at one. (One of the contest winners and one of the guys in the audience at AB's presentation also appeared in the Monroeville Mall video that's in the extras.) Everyone wanted one to have Romero and the Dawn cast sign while there. Some jerk even stole a copy from Felsher's booth.
I picked up a copy from Best Buy last Thursday. Still haven't watched a minute of it. Maybe I'll have time this weekend.
I picked up a copy from Best Buy last Thursday. Still haven't watched a minute of it. Maybe I'll have time this weekend.
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I'd seen both the US theatrical cut and the extended cut, but never the European edit. I think my favorite is a toss up between the Euro and the extended. I do miss the Goblin soundtrack on the extended, but it has that great bit of dialogue where Gaylen Ross does the "GOLDEN CAGE" speech, which is brilliantly written. On the Euro cut, I think several things are emphasized in a positive way(like the moment's pause when the zombies break through the wooden barrier after the SWAT guys break the top part of the barricade, it adds to the suspense in a huuuuge way) and I think the Euro cut in general intentionally downplayed the humor and turned the horror up a notch. Also, the biker's attack on the mall was better in Argento's cut, editing wise and music wise. On the bad side, there is one serious ED WOOD style continuity screw up near the end (you know, it's night, no, it's day, no, it's night) and I find the slow siren and helicopter chirp soundtrack bits by Goblin waaaay overdone.
The new documentaries are very cool but I haven't gotten around to the commentaries yet. My wife is strangely resistant to my watching of the same film 4-5 evenings in a row, go fig. All in all I say 2 severed and slightly chewed upon thumbs way way up.
EOD
The new documentaries are very cool but I haven't gotten around to the commentaries yet. My wife is strangely resistant to my watching of the same film 4-5 evenings in a row, go fig. All in all I say 2 severed and slightly chewed upon thumbs way way up.
EOD
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which places are offering the best price for this set?
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i got mine
well weve had the ultimate edition for a week or so now and it is just so very cool. i thibk the best version overall has to be the extended one because some of the extra bits are very nice indeed. The directors cut disc1 is like an uncut version of the original censored uk version that misses out the whole section with Rhodes from day of the dead and the classic line "we'll be stuck, we'll be stuck". The euro cut has plenty of way cool goblin tunes and lots of little bits that are slightly different from the other versions, also the space rock goblin tune on the biker invasion is wicked. The new documentary was very cool, isn't it weird how gaylen ross has hardly changed at all, still pretty hot in my opinion, if only they would release a poster of her in her gangsters moll make up waving that gun about mmmmmmmm. This package as a whole was well worth the wait i cant see how any better versions can be made short of getting hold of that elusive alternative ending.
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