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post #1 of 24
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A Haunting Depiction of Love Lost That Nearly Loses the Audience


Bud Clay is a very disturbed individual. He races his motorcycle, comes onto women just to dump them, and has haunting memories of his one true love, Daisy. This is a road-movie, and Bud is on a journey. He is going to California to see his ex-girlfriend, yet once he gets there, we realize his journey is not what we thought.

The Brown Bunny, Vincent Gallo’s second feature film, is a haunting depiction of love lost. It’s also a drudging, grueling journey that nearly loses the audience. There’s not much to Bud, and we later find out why. He’s an outcast, and has a tendency to treat women like objects, even in his memories or fantasies of his one true love.

This is one of those films where the ending will “blow” you away. There’s an infamous scene that’s received a lot of press, a certain sexual act is performed by Daisy, his true love. But the most disturbing scene is a flashback after that.

Once again, Chloë Sevigny sure puts herself out there. With this film, she has been raped in two movies now. In her first role in Larry Clark’s Kids, after taking drugs she is raped at a party, very reminiscent of this film.

I admire Gallo for making The Brown Bunny, for making it the way he wanted to, for having an original vision, for producing it and finding financing himself. Most of Hollywood and critics alike have blown him off, calling him narcissistic, and I can understand that.

Vincent Gallo attended what was supposed to be a Q&A session after the opening night showing of his film at the Sunshine Theater here in New York City. Instead of taking questions from the audience and answering them, i.e. Q & A, he decided to talk for 20 minutes, and then show a clip of the Ebert and Roeper show when they panned The Brown Bunny in their Cannes Film Festival review. He talked about how he’s always being wrongly labeled as a narcissist and this film narcissistic, yet he didn’t want any feedback or questions from the audience.

What’s even more ironic is: Gallo criticizes Ebert for labeling his film “the worst in Cannes history,” without giving reasons why he hated so much, yet he is so easily willing to mention how both he and Ebert didn’t like The Village at a drop of a hat, and give no reasons why he didn’t like it.

No matter what you may think, or what I think of Gallo personally, I don’t think it is fair to dismiss his film based on his actions in his personal life. I am always for judging the art, not the artist. If we did the latter, we would have to dismiss every Woody Allen and Roman Polanski film based on their character or previous life choices they made.

The Brown Bunny haunted me for days after I saw it. While the road trip to California does take too long and there a few too many scenes of self-indulgent nothingness—long scenes of just a road, the side of Bud’s face—The Brown Bunny is a very artistic independent film that has vision. It tells the story of a very haunted and disturbed individual, who has regrets that have crippled his life.


Alternative Recommendations: The Sixth Sense, Fight Club, Easy Rider, Buffalo ’66, Kids, Boys Don’t Cry

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post #2 of 24
Man, you're giving too much of the plot away with your descriptions of the end and your recommendations (and it's not close to Buffalo'66's tone in any way). This really is a movie where ideally you should go in not knowing anything about it because it relies entirely on a very powerful ending.

A few SPOILER-FREE observations:

*Don't expect Buffalo'66 part 2. This isn't a funny film at all.

*The much talked-about fellatio scene is the least sexy on-screen blowjob I've ever seen. Don't rent the movie just for that scene or if you're a kid wanting a kick, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

*That fellatio had to be for real, you have to see the film to see why. It is absolutely essential that it isn't faked like in other mainstream movies, so condemning the scene without having seen the whole film is very stupid.

*This is a film about the daily despair of having lost the love of your life. If you've ever been in that situation this movie is for you, I found it extremely catthartic. A lot of other people will be touched, but I can see this film being endlessly mocked by a good portion of cinemagoers because it is slow and uncomfortable and very sad. The ultimate love/hate film.

*This film looks and feels like it was shot in the 70s, it is very true to the poster in that way. The cinematography is gorgeous in a cheap indie way, and there is a lot of 70s folk music on the soundtrack. Very nostalgic, and appropriate because nostalgia is one the main themes of the film.

*Vincent Gallo may be narcissistic and pretentious with the media (although I think a lot of it is an act), but he has now crafted two films practically by himself which show him in very, very vulnerable positions. In Buffalo'66 he played a really nasty loser at first, and in Brown Bunny he plays a completely broken man in a very unglamorous way, and exposes himself litterally and metaphorically. He is sort of the anti-Tom Cruise in that way, who is always smiling to the cameras and playing heroes, and it is much braver to go the Gallo route and take real risks than the consensual Cruise way of playing the game.
Chloe Sevigny also plays her character beautifully, and daringly.

*Most of the film is very slow and a bit tedious (and the Cannes version probably was unbearable), but that's how life itself feels when you've lost all taste for it. Stick with it and the ending will make the whole film worthwhile.

*Brown Bunny is not a masterpiece but it should be applauded for tackling such an uncomfortable subject head-on, for being honest about that sort of pain and about the sexuality of the on-screen characters. Again, it feels like one of those 70s movies that took risks rather than a film made by a committee of executives.
post #3 of 24
I saw it last night w/ friends, and I too have to applaud Gallo for this pretty valiant, but vain attempt to elevate the artform.
I will admit that The Brown Bunny may have been a tougher ride had I not been lightly informed that there was a "payoff" at the end. No, I'm not referring to that payoff, but the highly emotional and devastating climax of picture. In short, if you can sit through something like Begotten, then Gallo's film will come off as a breezy, bitter treat.

Out of curiosity, I do want to see the Cannes version of the film, just to see if it lives up to its rep as an egregious piece of shit; but as Ebert and others have noted, this is certainly worth a look.
post #4 of 24
Three posts??
post #5 of 24
Who's only seen that one scene? Be honest!
post #6 of 24
I like the part where bud mouth fucks a ghost. I agree The Brown Bunny is a very autistic movie with vision.
post #7 of 24
I've seen the whole movie ONCE; it really is THAT fucking boring. The blowjob scene does work within the context of the story that Gallo is trying to tell, but the journey to get to that scene is dull beyond compare.
post #8 of 24
I saw this in a theater (well, at Roxy Screening Rooms, for you Philly folks). Everyone there looked like they were there for the blowjob scene. Except me, being all high-minded and shit.

Past attempts to get anyone to discuss the film have failed, because all anyone wants to talk about is the blowjob scene. (edit: see above, nice spoilers) No doubt, this is a movie that makes you work for anything you take away from it. I still haven't revisited it, but it was a singular experience - I kind of hated every second of the EXPERIENCE of viewing it - I mean, three minute takes of the camera staring out the windshield. Over and over. Whole songs play over unbroken shots of the road ahead. But over the next few days, it turned out the effect was like burning something into the retina. A week or more later, I was still thinking about it, and I had to admit that it's one of the most resonant films about guilt and loss I've ever seen.

I know I'm squarely in the minority, though. Happy screencap hunting!
post #9 of 24
Phil is right; it does stick with you for a while after you see it.
post #10 of 24
And you're right; there is NO compulsion to rewatch it any time soon.
post #11 of 24
I've always wanted to check this out, but like many other films in the same vein (in terms of an "artistic" experience that isn't particularly enjoyable), I never seem to find myself in the mood to subject myself to it.

Doesn't help that no one I know ever wants to watch shit like this. I have so many other films/directors I'm always trying to catch up with, I never get around to stuff like this.

ETA: And I'd by lying if I said I didn't want to see this because of the BJ scene. But it's more that I want to see what kind of a film surrounds a scene like that and makes it necessary.
post #12 of 24
So it's kinda like a rite of passage? Or maybe perhaps a hazing for film-buffs?
post #13 of 24
I'd call it more of a failed experiment. I appreciate what Gallo is trying to do with the film, but the execution comes across as TEDIOUS rather than meditative.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by Luca S. View Post
Who's only seen that one scene? Be honest!
Me.
post #15 of 24
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post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by Chris Allen View Post
So it's kinda like a rite of passage? Or maybe perhaps a hazing for film-buffs?
I think there's something worthwhile in there. It's not completely successful, but worth a viewing to an open mind.

Oh, and I would NEVER try to watch this with another person if I were you. I was lucky with my first viewing, in that my friend was in until the end as I was, but fuck turning off a movie because someone in the room is "bored".
post #17 of 24
I forgot that I ever even posted about this film. I still appreciate it, but I agree with Phil that it's not something you can view w/ a buddy while just hanging out.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I think there's something worthwhile in there. It's not completely successful, but worth a viewing to an open mind.

Oh, and I would NEVER try to watch this with another person if I were you. I was lucky with my first viewing, in that my friend was in until the end as I was, but fuck turning off a movie because someone in the room is "bored".
Southland Tales was the closest I ever got. What we did do was probably worse: just nod off occasionally and not rewind it when we woke up.
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by Phil View Post
I saw this in a theater (well, at Roxy Screening Rooms, for you Philly folks). Everyone there looked like they were there for the blowjob scene. Except me, being all high-minded and shit.

Past attempts to get anyone to discuss the film have failed, because all anyone wants to talk about is the blowjob scene. (edit: see above, nice spoilers) No doubt, this is a movie that makes you work for anything you take away from it. I still haven't revisited it, but it was a singular experience - I kind of hated every second of the EXPERIENCE of viewing it - I mean, three minute takes of the camera staring out the windshield. Over and over. Whole songs play over unbroken shots of the road ahead. But over the next few days, it turned out the effect was like burning something into the retina. A week or more later, I was still thinking about it, and I had to admit that it's one of the most resonant films about guilt and loss I've ever seen.

I know I'm squarely in the minority, though. Happy screencap hunting!
I haven't seen this in years, but I recall hating the experience of watching it. Unlike you, I was happy to forget the film immediately and haven't looked back since.
post #20 of 24
I love the film, but hate the blow job scene.
I have re-watched it a couple times, but skip the BJ chapter, as it bugs me and seems like it's trying too hard to be shocking.
post #21 of 24
It's intentionally boring so that by the end of the movie the only thing you really, truly walk away with is "wow, I just watched that guy get a blow job. And was the girl really dead?" It's about missing someone you lost and not being able to get past the physical intimacy. You're lonely, devastated, you try to do anything and everything to get your mind off it, but at the end of the day you're thinking about what it was like when this person who isn't in your life anymore used to give you head. And then that makes you feel worse because it's only physical and selfish.

It's a failure of a movie, though. David Lynch did it better in one scene with Natalie Watts towards the end of Mullholland Drive.
post #22 of 24
Found this in another thread. Straxboy kind of nails it.

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Originally Posted by Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film View Post
Have yuo seen the picture ? It is Sevigny. Or else a wonderful scene of CGI...

Like I say, "that scene" comes just prior to a really unexpected turning point in the picture. It's not an The Idiots-style fleeting glimpse. It's a plot point. A situation which requires perhaps the most pointed, directly emotive moment between a couple.

The character is necessarily abrassive and the motivations behind his behaviour are necessarily murky. I think Gallo may well be a dick in person -- I don't know him, just his persona -- but in this picture, he impressed me. Surprisingly.

It's a picture you have to stick with and it does frustrate. But I truly believe the payoff justifies the journey and the quite emotionally wrenching blow-job scene has quite a kicker to its reveal.

It's a little picture, with small ambitions and you have to repsect that. Ironically, the expected ego on display is a sad, pathetic incarnation, so Gallo auto-bashers haven't really got that piece of ammunition to fall back on.

But then if you preception of it sight-unseen is that it's a "douche film" then -- really -- it probably isn't for you.


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He's not getting revenge. He thought what he saw at the party was her sleeping around. Only after he stormed out and the ambulance dragged Daisy (Sevigny) away did he realise his mistake and find out she was gang raped and killed. Racked with guilt, he's tried to escape his failing to help her by pushing the memory away. And only when he returns to L.A. does his subconscious let him confront that.

They're relationship -- for better or worse -- semmed a very carnal one (hence his instinct she may have been fucking around), so the blow job scene seems to be his emotional cartharsis -- the point at which his memory of the incident resurfaces: we realise he's been retracing his journey back to his dead lover, trying to form bonds with girls who are similarly named by flowers, recalling her childhood pet -- the titular Bunny -- when he goes to see her parents.
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I have a feeling that were this made by anyone but Gallo -- Michael Haenke say -- it would be more higly praised than it is.

Still, your loss if you don't at least check it out.
post #23 of 24
Hm. Nice callback: CHUD used to get a good bit of critical steam going up on the message boards back in le jour. I stick by this evaluation too.

Even if I mangle "their" and "they're" like a twat.
post #24 of 24
I love this film but I understand why some don't like it at all. The criticisms aren't unfounded. The film just spoke to me.

Unfortunately, I could relate to the character and his journey. As a guy that's got some demons that need working out, I feel this film is probably the best one out there at conveying what this kind of journey is like through emotion and tone rather than with ham handed dialog that's begging the viewer to understand the material. I really appreciate the choices that were made in the film. Sometimes, things just aren't made for everybody. It's a brave move if not a good financial one but I back it.

It's a shame children get hung up on a certain scene... they're missing out on a truly special film. Although, if you don't "get it" or find it boring and pretentious, maybe you're just lucky.
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