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post #51 of 102
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Originally Posted by Mr_Trick
Ahh it doesn't look that bad.. I think it is an extreme rip-off of DaVinci code and I think that Bruck is downplaying the comparison so he can avoid lawsuit..

Bruck/Cage work well in action.. Not going to win any Oscars but usually fun films to watch.. If you need help use this receipe. Stop at Fridays before hand, have a couple of beers, order of pot stickers... enjoy

As I keep saying -- its impossible for this to be a ripoff of the DaVinci code in that the script for this was written WAY before the davinci code was published.

Its a coincidence.
post #52 of 102
It might have been greenlighted because of DaVinci Code but it's been in development for years.

Let me reiterate again, the 10 minute preview is without a doubt a cutdown of the actual film. I'm sure it flows better in the final cut.
post #53 of 102
I would gladly go out and see this, if I was into sadomasochism.
post #54 of 102
For all of you, like me, who love Sean Bean, that's not exactly a reason to see this film. I rented "Don't Say a Word" for that reason, and what I got was two hours of him being completely wasted and played off as his generic Eurotrash baddie. This looks like a lot more of the same.

Its weird, he seems to get either really good blockbuster roles, or really bad would be blockbuster roles. There's no in between. Where are the indie roles? He's good enough to do some drama.

This movie looks really bad. I saw in the latest commercial that its PG? Can they be serious? The only possible reason to see Bruckheimer films most of the time is big nasty action. Cage looks really bored, right down to the laughably comatose delivery of "Actually we're more like treasure protectors" they play every time. Why can he never stay consistent in his choices anymore? "Matchstick Men" was a ray of hope, and now this.
post #55 of 102
How could the dollar bill have clues on it left over from the founding fathers? Wasn't the current design for the dollar bill made in like the 1930s? I at least know that it ISN'T the same design used since 1776.
post #56 of 102
Hmmm. When you Google "Dollar Bill" you get some WACK sites.

An FAQ about the dollar bill and its symbols: http://www.ronscurrency.com/ronef.htm

Conspiracies about the dollar bill and 9/11:
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml

History Lesson of the dollar bill:
http://www.treachery.net/~jdyson/dollar_history.html
post #57 of 102
I'm seeing this tomorrow. I'll let you guys know afterwards whether or not Bruckheimer is still making shitty movies.
post #58 of 102
I saw a sneak preview of this last night.

"National Treasure" is like that kid who was never very good at baseball, but was in the dugout every day ready to try his best. The movie trys, but it doesn't really succeed at anything.

It's essentially a composite of scenes from better movies. One part Bond, one part Indiana Jones, one part Da Vinci Code, but all totally watered down. A lot of the set-pieces and sequences feel incredibly generic, such as when they go down Creepy Rickety Stairway Under the Church. It could have been pulled from a dozen other movies, and it would have been done better in at least half of them.

The actors are all on cruise control. Nic Cage as Ben Gates shrugs and schlubs his way through as only Nic Cage can, Sean Bean essentially reprises his role from "Goldeneye," as does Harvey Kietel from "Red Dragon." Riley (Justin Bartha), Ben's nerdy techie sidekick, gets my vote for the hands down most annoying character in any movie this year. His schtick of whining whenever anyone says ANYTHING to him isn't funny the first time, and after about 27,000 times it's excruciating. Rarely have I wanted a movie character to die so badly.

Brownie points have to be given for at least attempting an action movie with a few brains. That's not to say the historical-conspiracy secret story is exceptional (it actually feels very simple considering how many strands it brings in) but any action picture that works in references to the Knights Templar and the library of Alexandria gets a few props from me, seeing as how I'm a history nerd.

But the treasure the group is seeking feels very poorly defined. All we are told is that it is very large and very cool, and that it was hidden because "it was too much treasure for one man" (apparently the people who hid it hadn't heard of the concept of 'division.' I also have a hard time believing America's founding fathers wouldn't have used it to help supplement the US economy after the Revolutionary War, seeing as how they were completely bankrupt for like 20 years afterward.)

More emphasis is put on the Declaration of Independence than the treasure, and as a result we don't really care whether they find it or not. Had the film-makers teased a little more on what the treasure may be, it would have made the movie much more engaging.

The music is annoying as hell. It feels like canned tracks from "Pirates of the Carribean" mixed with techno-Bond sounds from "Die Another Day" that hit the cutting floor. Poor showing.

"National Treasure" is a forgettable ride that is never particularly engaging or exciting, but I'm going easy on it because it didn't intellectually offend me too badly. It won't impress anybody on these boards, that's for sure.
post #59 of 102
Oh, and "National Treasure" has the first teaser for "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" attached to it.

It's not much, but it got some laughs out of the audience and there seemed to be a fair number of people who were very excited when they saw what the preview was for.
post #60 of 102
Is it the one with the earth exploding and the Hitchhiker's sigul written in the stars? If so, I saw that one back in June when ComicCon was going down.

Or is it something else with a bit more content?
post #61 of 102
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Originally Posted by g-dude
Is it the one with the earth exploding and the Hitchhiker's sigul written in the stars? If so, I saw that one back in June when ComicCon was going down.

Or is it something else with a bit more content?
No, that's the one. I assumed it was new, since this was the first time I'd seen it.

They also had a preview for Chicken Little, which looks like it will be cute for kids, but no one else.
post #62 of 102
I have to give NATIONAL TREASURE this... it's a landmark in my movie viewing habits. An hour into it, something very rare and unprecedented happened, something I never thought would consume me. Exactly one hour into NATIONAL TREASURE, I stopped giving a damn. I wanted to leave the theater. For the first time, I didn't want to be in front of a screen that's bestowed me with many wonderful memories. I thought about work I needed to do before the weekend. I thought about the recent election. I thought about fantasy basketball. I thought about everything but this insipid waste of film that was unspooling in front of me, assasinating brain cells like a grey-haired Tom Cruise on a hot summer night.

Nothing matters in this damn movie. Nothing is organic. It seems that out of all American studio movies, 3/4's of them are sequels and remakes, and the others are "original" ideas that consist of placing a few keywords (ex. "treasure", "love interest", "explosion", "Nicolas Cage") in a word processor device that proceeds to print out screenplays.

NATIONAL TREASURE is just the latest to use that formula, to the point where I finally got sick of it. I got sick of the bombastic music cues. I got sick of the lame comic relief. I got sick of the wastes of onscreen talent like Harvey Keitel. I got sick of the last minute escapes. I got sick of Jerry Bruckheimer's Hollywood, which has become more encompassing than anyone earlier in his career would have forecasted.

Nic Cage's character exists because this movie needs a protagonist. Diane Kruger, so beautiful here, exists because a love interest is needed. Sean Bean exists because these pictures need villains. Justin Bartha, the 'tard from GIGLI, blew a hundred more Disney executives so that he could be the one that makes this movie "funny." Nobody else makes much of a difference.

The plot involves the search for a massive treasure that our founding fathers have apparently foolishly hidden from the rest of the country, particularly through some of our nation's most trying economic times. Cage is the fortuitously named Benjamin Franklin Gates, a lifelong treasure hunter (apparently, this is a successful profession) who lets it slip to collegue Sean Bean that there are clues to the treasure hidden behind ther Declaration of Independence.

The trailers would have you believe that the crux of the film is the theft of the Declaration of Independence. However, the trailers apparently only show the first thirty or so minutes of this tediously paced film, and after the document is stolen, it's merely a pitstop on the way to more inane clues that enable Nic Cage to furrow his brow like some sort of idiot savant. Indeed, watching Nic Cage cinematically think could be worth the price of admission, because it's so improbable that there could be thought behind any words emerging from his mouth.

These characters have no context and do not exist outside of the film. There is no development, no understanding of who the hell they are or what they were doing before finding themselves in the middle of this ludicrous plot. Bruckheimer exposition, stupid stuff like, "You haven't been the same since your mother died" is absent here, and there is absolutely no effort to make these characters anything beyond adventure movie automatons.

It's only appropriate that this film be directed by an automaton, Jon Turtletaub. Turtletaub has been responsible for some of the most uninspiring cinematic crap of our time, including "3 Ninjas", "Phenomenon" and "Instinct". Some filmmakers dabble in varying subject matter because they are adept at telling different types of stories, Turtletaub does it because he's good at nothing. This is likely the biggest budget he's ever worked with, and it shows. Action scenes are incoherent, body doubles are easily distinguishable and there is no sense of time or space in between scenes to the point where the movie is stitched together incomprehensibly without any narrative rhythm whatsoever.

Most troubling are the continued Hollywood archetypes of anyone in an action movie that isn't a white male. In Bruckheimer's universe, specifically in this movie, women are only present to indulge men in their childhood fantasies. The fact that this is a PG film only makes Diane Kruger an accessory to a boy's dream, not by removing her shirt but by turning skepticism into blind, stupid faith that powers the motor that is the men's improbable set of ludicrous, dangerous plans. And how should one feel about a scene in which a man named Benjamin Franklin gives a young black child one dollar to run through visibly rought traffic in order to jot down letters from a national monument? If the filmmakers realized the subtext of such a scene, shame on them. If they didn't, well... err... I didn't vote for Bush.

NATIONAL TREASURE pats itself on the back for being aware of history and is a celebration of white imperialism at it's core. Ignore that subtext, and it's also a dreadfully incompetent action movie, the kind of crap that sadly people like Nic Cage have to do in order to produce a MATCHSTICK MEN or ADAPTATION in their spare time, the kind of movie that should have been outdated twenty years ago. It's crap in every single way, disengaging, heartless and with no faith in humanity.

Congratulations, Jerry Bruckheimer. You haven't killed my love for movies just yet, but you may have knifed it in the sphincter.
post #63 of 102
You forget to take your meds before you saw the movie, fabfunk?
post #64 of 102
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Originally Posted by fabfunk
I have to give NATIONAL TREASURE this... it's a landmark in my movie viewing habits. An hour into it, something very rare and unprecedented happened, something I never thought would consume me. Exactly one hour into NATIONAL TREASURE, I stopped giving a damn. I wanted to leave the theater. For the first time, I didn't want to be in front of a screen that's bestowed me with many wonderful memories. I thought about work I needed to do before the weekend. I thought about the recent election. I thought about fantasy basketball. I thought about everything but this insipid waste of film that was unspooling in front of me, assasinating brain cells like a grey-haired Tom Cruise on a hot summer night.

Nothing matters in this damn movie. Nothing is organic. It seems that out of all American studio movies, 3/4's of them are sequels and remakes, and the others are "original" ideas that consist of placing a few keywords (ex. "treasure", "love interest", "explosion", "Nicolas Cage") in a word processor device that proceeds to print out screenplays.

NATIONAL TREASURE is just the latest to use that formula, to the point where I finally got sick of it. I got sick of the bombastic music cues. I got sick of the lame comic relief. I got sick of the wastes of onscreen talent like Harvey Keitel. I got sick of the last minute escapes. I got sick of Jerry Bruckheimer's Hollywood, which has become more encompassing than anyone earlier in his career would have forecasted.

Nic Cage's character exists because this movie needs a protagonist. Diane Kruger, so beautiful here, exists because a love interest is needed. Sean Bean exists because these pictures need villains. Justin Bartha, the 'tard from GIGLI, blew a hundred more Disney executives so that he could be the one that makes this movie "funny." Nobody else makes much of a difference.

The plot involves the search for a massive treasure that our founding fathers have apparently foolishly hidden from the rest of the country, particularly through some of our nation's most trying economic times. Cage is the fortuitously named Benjamin Franklin Gates, a lifelong treasure hunter (apparently, this is a successful profession) who lets it slip to collegue Sean Bean that there are clues to the treasure hidden behind ther Declaration of Independence.

The trailers would have you believe that the crux of the film is the theft of the Declaration of Independence. However, the trailers apparently only show the first thirty or so minutes of this tediously paced film, and after the document is stolen, it's merely a pitstop on the way to more inane clues that enable Nic Cage to furrow his brow like some sort of idiot savant. Indeed, watching Nic Cage cinematically think could be worth the price of admission, because it's so improbable that there could be thought behind any words emerging from his mouth.

These characters have no context and do not exist outside of the film. There is no development, no understanding of who the hell they are or what they were doing before finding themselves in the middle of this ludicrous plot. Bruckheimer exposition, stupid stuff like, "You haven't been the same since your mother died" is absent here, and there is absolutely no effort to make these characters anything beyond adventure movie automatons.

It's only appropriate that this film be directed by an automaton, Jon Turtletaub. Turtletaub has been responsible for some of the most uninspiring cinematic crap of our time, including "3 Ninjas", "Phenomenon" and "Instinct". Some filmmakers dabble in varying subject matter because they are adept at telling different types of stories, Turtletaub does it because he's good at nothing. This is likely the biggest budget he's ever worked with, and it shows. Action scenes are incoherent, body doubles are easily distinguishable and there is no sense of time or space in between scenes to the point where the movie is stitched together incomprehensibly without any narrative rhythm whatsoever.

Most troubling are the continued Hollywood archetypes of anyone in an action movie that isn't a white male. In Bruckheimer's universe, specifically in this movie, women are only present to indulge men in their childhood fantasies. The fact that this is a PG film only makes Diane Kruger an accessory to a boy's dream, not by removing her shirt but by turning skepticism into blind, stupid faith that powers the motor that is the men's improbable set of ludicrous, dangerous plans. And how should one feel about a scene in which a man named Benjamin Franklin gives a young black child one dollar to run through visibly rought traffic in order to jot down letters from a national monument? If the filmmakers realized the subtext of such a scene, shame on them. If they didn't, well... err... I didn't vote for Bush.

NATIONAL TREASURE pats itself on the back for being aware of history and is a celebration of white imperialism at it's core. Ignore that subtext, and it's also a dreadfully incompetent action movie, the kind of crap that sadly people like Nic Cage have to do in order to produce a MATCHSTICK MEN or ADAPTATION in their spare time, the kind of movie that should have been outdated twenty years ago. It's crap in every single way, disengaging, heartless and with no faith in humanity.

Congratulations, Jerry Bruckheimer. You haven't killed my love for movies just yet, but you may have knifed it in the sphincter.
Seeing it tonight..........eep.
post #65 of 102
I didn't hate it.
post #66 of 102
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Originally Posted by devincf
I didn't hate it.
Not exactly a rousing endorsement. Is there a review coming soon?
post #67 of 102
Tomorrow night.

As a US history buff I think I let the movie slide a lot because it's filmed on location. I mean, it's dumb as shit, but THAT'S THE BELLTOWER AT INDEPENDANCE HALL!
post #68 of 102
Completely brainless fun. I enjoyed it.
post #69 of 102
I saw them filming this!!! Actually, I saw their chairs and assumed it was a documentary.
post #70 of 102
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Originally Posted by devincf
As a US history buff I think I let the movie slide a lot because it's filmed on location. I mean, it's dumb as shit, but THAT'S THE BELLTOWER AT INDEPENDANCE HALL!
Yeah, I enjoyed all of the esoteric and detailed references to US history. I have to give a film credit for having the balls to actually including somewhat educational material in what is essentially a dumb movie.

I personally didn't find the film very exciting at all, but it wasn't boring either. Very middle of the road picture.
post #71 of 102
Fun, lightweight adventure movie. If you're looking for something that'll be okay for the whole family around Thanksgiving, this'll fit the bill. As mentioned above, it's kind of dumb but I still had a good time with it.
post #72 of 102
Sounds like Pepsi watered down. I can't get over how bored Cage looks in this.
post #73 of 102
Thread Starter 
Glad to see that some people had the same reaction to this film as me.

I thought it was fun, pretty light weight, pretty much everything I thought it was going to be. I thought Justin Bartha was funny and expect that we'll be seeing more of him.

Sean Bean, as usual, makes the perfect villian.

Loved the historical references. I give the writers props for taking the time to include them.
post #74 of 102
I'll be seeing this because me daughter wants to see it. It's hard to say no to a 7 year old.

The thing I find funny is a certain person or two who not too awful long ago went along on a joyless ride slamming movies for being 'mindless fun' and indicated that people who enjoyed this 'mindless fun' or had to 'suspend disbelief' needed some help are now talking about enjoying this 'mindless fun movie'.

Not trying to start a flame war, just struck me as funny....
post #75 of 102
I'm a bit surprised by the really rotten rating at Rotten Tomatoes. A bunch of us watched this last night and we all had a good time with it and enjoyed it. Nothing earth shattering, exposition was a bit daunting but done enough in a fun way you could go with it, certainly over the top in reality, rather a fun chuckle at the ending. Overall we all had a good time with it. If you've seen a Cage/Bruckheimer movie before and liked it, you will probably like this one. I certainly don't have a problem recommending it to anyone.
post #76 of 102
Thread Starter 
I agree -- especially since most people I know that saw it thought it was pretty good. What i have a harder time believing is spongebob's rating (70% fresh?? C'mon guys....)

Maybe there's a plague amongst film critics or something.

Any guesses as to how this will do this weekend??

I'm *hoping* it beats out spongebob.
post #77 of 102
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Originally Posted by lisa_simpson
I'm *hoping* it beats out spongebob.
I don't see that happening.
post #78 of 102
LIsa, do you work with Chris or Jen at Disney? Say hi for me.
post #79 of 102
The marketing for this is pretty slick. All the ties with History Channel and Discovery Channel are golden.
post #80 of 102
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Originally Posted by billylove
The marketing for this is pretty slick. All the ties with History Channel and Discovery Channel are golden.
For the Mythbusters cross-promotion I was surprised that they actually allowed them to debunk one of the film's basic premises (that the founding father left clues on money).

But, no, when they got to the part about the all-seeing eye being a symbol of the Knights of Templar they pretty much just said "Yeah, that's Hollywood bullshit." Odd to somewhat debunk your own film before its released.
post #81 of 102
I was thinking the same thing, Werbal.
post #82 of 102
I've got to say I expect it to do really really well tonight. I can't count the number of people who pointed to the buy advance ticket cards for National Treasure and said "I want to see that" over the last two weeks. I've been stopped by at least 5 people on my day job asking me if it was any good and they want to go see it.

I'm rooting for it and I think it will do pretty well. Last I saw it was being projected up into the high $20's for a weekend take but that was sometime last week. It's been tracking higher as it got closer to opening.

SpongeBob is going to kick our butts on Saturday during the day of which thankfully I don't work.
post #83 of 102
I forgot to mention that this movie as the most incredibly awful trailers in front of it: Racing Stripes, the Vin Diesel nanny movie where I blocked ou the title, Son of the Mask at which point I about left. Just awful trailers.

Another point is the music. Does Bruckheimer just use the same guy? I swear during one point with treasure showing we got the Pirates of the Caribbean theme music and I know I recognized most of the other music as generic from Con Air or The Rock, etc., etc.
post #84 of 102
Well, I actually caught a matinee of this today and...I did not like it very much. The first 40 minutes or so really had me. I was really enjoying the clues and loved the actual stealing of the Declaration of Independence. Then...it gets boring. Now I love treasure hunt movies, and the clues are interesting AT FIRST. My real problem with the movie is that they include too many scenes where Cage and Co. have to discover what the next clue is and where it will point them. The film clocks in at about 2hrs 10 minutes but could really have benefited from shaving 20 minutes off its run time. It just takes far too long to actually get to the tomb. There was a good movie in here somewhere, but as it is I found it bloated and slow when it should have lean and mean. Overall I give it a 5/10.
post #85 of 102
I thought it was cinematic junk food: Enjoyable but forgettable.

"NATIONAL TREASURE pats itself on the back for being aware of history and is a celebration of white imperialism at it's core".
I guess some people have to find an excuse to cram their political opinions down people's throat's at every opportunity. If anybody can find anything political in "Treasure" except a vague opinion that the Founding Fathers were pretty good guys (with which I agree) you are looking for a lame excuse to indulge in a political rant.
And "Subtext" is such a bullshit Deconstructionist term that most people on the Left avoid it like the plague.
post #86 of 102
Very lame and bland to the core. Made The Goonies look plausible. Diane Kruger has zero charisma; she's the German Monica Potter.
post #87 of 102
"Diane Kruger has zero charisma; she's the German Monica Potter."
I have to agree. She is certainly a hottie but she has zero charisma and has been boring in both "Troy" and this. Her performace..or lack thereof...is one the weak points of the film. They make a big deal about how her charecter is an immigrant from Germany and you have to wonder why since her monotone delivery has very little trace of an accent. Actually, giving her a German Acennt would have made the charecter a little more interesting and no less believable. Being a immigrant from a German speaking Country is no barrier to rising high in American Government, as the current Governor of California shows.....
post #88 of 102
I would not say that Diane Kruger is as bland as Monica Potter...in fact she was one of the few things I enjoyed about this movie.
post #89 of 102
Thread Starter 
I liked Justin Bartha. Thought he was funny. Wonder if he's going to be in anything else, ever.
post #90 of 102
Lisa, tell Chris I can't make the LIFE AQUATIC press day.
post #91 of 102
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Originally Posted by Ratty
Very lame and bland to the core. Made The Goonies look plausible. Diane Kruger has zero charisma; she's the German Monica Potter.
You do know The Goonies was based on a true story?
post #92 of 102
Watchable but so blandly professional that it might make you wonder if you're wasting your precious life watching it. It's not outrageous enough in any way to even be classified as "guilty pleasure." At least Bruckheimer's past films had always had some wildly over-the-top or entertaining aspect (be it the performances, the in your face MTV cinematography, the action, whatever) to make them secretly interesting despite all of their crap. National Treasure is too classy for any of those shenanigans, yet what remains isn't terribly interesting on its own. Halfway through the movie, Cage & Kruger stop at Urban Outfitters or American Eagle or some other quintessentially suburban mall-Gap-yuppie store to change clothes. The new outfits are vaguely attractive, but absolutely forgettable and milquetoast. That's exactly what this movie is like. It's the Banana Republic of the movie world.
post #93 of 102
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So, let me get this straight. People here don't like fun treasure-hunt action movies? It always amazes me what movies get an unqualified, "dude, I'll see that!" versus those that get a "boy, that looks like shit" label around here.

To me this looks like a cool romp with a refreshing gimmick that hasn't been done before.
Spot on. Just got back from seeing this and I have to say I had a blast. It delivered on action and laughs. The guy who plays Riley had some of my favorite lines, particularly "This car smells." I'm laughing just writing that.

A good time will be had for all whom seek it. Check this flick out.
post #94 of 102
Quote:
Originally Posted by MovieImp
I forgot to mention that this movie as the most incredibly awful trailers in front of it: Racing Stripes, the Vin Diesel nanny movie where I blocked ou the title, Son of the Mask at which point I about left. Just awful trailers.

Another point is the music. Does Bruckheimer just use the same guy? I swear during one point with treasure showing we got the Pirates of the Caribbean theme music and I know I recognized most of the other music as generic from Con Air or The Rock, etc., etc.

I got the same trailers. Utterly awful. And I felt the same about the movie. The score sounded like a rehash of every other Bruckheimer score.
post #95 of 102
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Originally Posted by dudalb
I thought it was cinematic junk food: Enjoyable but forgettable.

"NATIONAL TREASURE pats itself on the back for being aware of history and is a celebration of white imperialism at it's core".
I guess some people have to find an excuse to cram their political opinions down people's throat's at every opportunity. If anybody can find anything political in "Treasure" except a vague opinion that the Founding Fathers were pretty good guys (with which I agree) you are looking for a lame excuse to indulge in a political rant.
And "Subtext" is such a bullshit Deconstructionist term that most people on the Left avoid it like the plague.

I can't remember the exact phrasings, but there were several times when Nic Cage's character gave us a bit of political history. First, when he was reading a line in the Declaration and said it was his favorite. It was something about those who have the power to make change should. Also, at the end of the film when he's negotiating with Harvey Keitel's character they discuss how no one person should have all the power in government nor in controlling the treasure and they decided to divy up the treasure to the various museums.
post #96 of 102
I liked it. It was a fun adventure film with a historical bent. I would have thought it's various 'borrowings' from other famous films were obvious enough to be homages rather than rip offs.
post #97 of 102
"First, when he was reading a line in the Declaration and said it was his favorite. It was something about those who have the power to make change should. Also, at the end of the film when he's negotiating with Harvey Keitel's character they discuss how no one person should have all the power in government nor in controlling the treasure and they decided to divy up the treasure to the various museums."
My point exactly. The "Political" statements in the movie are so vague and general that anybody from Michael Moore to Dubya could agree with them.
"Treasure" won Thanksgiving weekend with 30 Million dollars. It's going to make a mint for Bruckheimer.
Can you say "A Sequel is in the works?".....
post #98 of 102
Just saw it this afternoon, had the day off work and decided to check it out...

It has been said many times and I agree - it was exactly what I thought..

A great way to kill a couple of hours in a boring afternoon. Not fantastic, but fun and watchable...
post #99 of 102
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Originally Posted by dudalb
My point exactly. The "Political" statements in the movie are so vague and general that anybody from Michael Moore to Dubya could agree with them.

"Treasure" won Thanksgiving weekend with 30 Million dollars. It's going to make a mint for Bruckheimer.
Can you say "A Sequel is in the works?".....
I'd say that the political statements while vague, seem more radical than any conservative would agree with. Conservos don't like to rock the boat, which is precisely what the first statement was about. And the second statement is about diluting power, which again is something Dubya, and most conservos in general, wouldn't care much about. While I agree I don't think the "politcal" stuff was put in as some sort of statement on current politics, they did catch my attention while I was viewing the movie. But as you could see from the fact that I can't remember any of the lines, it was subtle at best.

Also, "Treasure" is Nic Cage's highest grossing movie yet. I find this to be surprising as I think Face/Off and to some degree The Rock are far supier action movies. I guess people were ready to have an adventure.

***minor spoiler***

Lastly, I can't stop thinking about Riley's lines. I literally stand at work laughing to myself. My new favorite is at the end when they found the treasure and everyone marveled at whatever historic find they were next to. Riley looks around, spots the Egyption sarcophagus and says, "A blue...mummy... looking thing with a weird looking beard...this has to be something special." And then he hugs it. Makes me laugh every time.
post #100 of 102
"Also, "Treasure" is Nic Cage's highest grossing movie yet. I find this to be surprising as I think Face/Off and to some degree The Rock are far supier action movies. I guess people were ready to have an adventure."

Not to mention it was PG with the moniker "From the Producer of Pirates of the Carribean," and came out around Thanksgiving when virtually every other movie in the marketplace other than The Incredibles has been deemed more or less garbage.
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