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post #1 of 44
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I wasn't sure how this prequel would sit with me what with screwing with the continuity of the first two films all. I think it's the charisma of Katherine Isabelle and Emily Perkins that makes these films so great in the first place so when they time warped back to the 1800's it didn't phase me at all. Ginger SNaps Back is a great little story and a nice way to wind up the trilogy, if it is in fact wound up. The set, which was primarily an 1800's trading fort, was great as was the cinematogrophy. In some ways it reminded me of Ravenous. Well in alot of ways I guess. The cast was excellent and the girls, again, were fantastic. I liked how they skipped the use of an 1800's dialect and kept it modern. Movies like The Village where they try to force that style of language on you just end up sounding retarded.

COmpared to the first two this one was a bit different. There wasn't as much black humour and the werewolves saw little screen time but still in all it was a fun movie. The weakest of the three but still far better than most of what has come out this year.
post #2 of 44
Has it come out yet? I need to see it soon or I will spontaneously combust.
post #3 of 44
Yeah it's out now. At least in the US and I would assume Canada but can't say for sure. I picked it up and started watching it the other night but I was too tired and didn't get far. What I saw looked promising though.
post #4 of 44
I still haven't seen UNLEASHED yet.
post #5 of 44
Seen it a few months ago. Absolute shit.
post #6 of 44
..must...run...video store...now...
post #7 of 44
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Originally Posted by Werewolf Girl is the Universe
..must...run...video store...now...
Let me have it after you're done.
post #8 of 44
Yup, 3 days until it's released here in Canada. I got an advanced copy in the mail though. (I have sources.... )though. My edition has no SF or anything, so I'll for sure be picking up the DVD this Tuesday.

Oh, BTW, it kicked fucking ass in my opinion, even though I am biased.
post #9 of 44
THREE DAYS????

*dies*
post #10 of 44
Good call Floyd. I liked it very much too. And on the big screen it's quite something.

Pretty grim in tone, which in keeping with the location and geographical aesthetics of this picture and lit by Guy Maddin's regular Director of Photography (I guess a lot of people who thought this was dull garbage won't have the patience for Maddin's peculiarly beautiful genre pictures, like Tales From Gimli Hospital and Dracula: Pages From a Virgin's Diary but you should really give them a go) this was shock. I love the first picure, haven't seen its sequel and wasn't prepared for quite how confident a departure this prequel was for a direct to video knock off. Which is quite plainly isn't.

This is a very Canadian picture. Which I say to really distinguish it from US sequel's and their sometime gladhappy-horror tone. This has frontier grit and weathering. and it helps immeasurably. Maybe a couple of Oliver-Stone-Indian missteps in the narative but Grant Harvey's direction is impeccably assured, F/X are top notch in the main and the performances once again stand out leading inexorably to the fatalistic denoument that will channel the curse back to the original's suburban set nightmare. It's like some Black Forest folk tale come to life in vivd and brutal fashion.

Absolute shit ? So far from it, dependent on what you look for in a picture. You won't find the wonderful Buffy-like quip-laced thrills and blackly comic spills that made the first picture such a stand out. But you will find a more European flavour. Of dare I say it "vintage" feel to the intensely Gothic atmosphere (which should set some runnig from the video store). This was artful, intelligent horror, which is probably where the genuine negativity or disappointment comes from. Though you must be blind if you don't even think -- story aside -- it looked like a dream. And I mean that literally as well as figuratively.
post #11 of 44
I watched this last night and have to say it was miles better than Unleashed for me, I wasn't very impressed with that one. This one was great though.
post #12 of 44
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To me Unleashed is almost better than the original. It was darker and slicker and had a great cast of characters.

To make three movies in this fashion and to have them all be good or great films is something of an accomplishment these days when most can barely string together 2 or make 1 capable horror film for that matter. I'd definitely be up for a fourth if they ever decided to make one.
post #13 of 44
If they did make one, some people over @ the KI Appreciation Forum came up with an idea/name.
We called it Ginger Snaps IV:Rebirth. It's about Brigitte trying to bring Ginger back to life, (we had this whole thing where Brigitte killed Ghost and monkshood and stuff..yeah too complicated to explain lol)
post #14 of 44
And Emily Perkins seems to get prettier and prettier in each one...

dmeister
post #15 of 44
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I don't see it. Katherine on the other hand. VAVAVOOM!
post #16 of 44
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Originally Posted by Floydian Trip
I don't see it. Katherine on the other hand. VAVAVOOM!
Oh come on, FT! I thought you had better taste than that. She looked horrible in GSB. I kept waiting for her hair to fly off because it looked so much like a wig.
post #17 of 44
Thread Starter 
You're right she didn't look that great in this one. Her turning into a werewolf was a much sexier thing in the original.
post #18 of 44
Katharine Isabelle is a knockout, she is beautiful and feral and dangerous in a very obvious sexy way.

The thing that makes Emily special is that she has this sort of quiet, insecure, slightly awkward beauty. She is beautiful in a human way, she appears average at first, but every once in awhile (like the forced smile in GS2) she really surprises you. She is also a huge horror fan, and you know that if you spoke to her face to face you would end up discussing your favorite kill scenes and and directors just like we do at the Corner.
post #19 of 44
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Originally Posted by dmeister
And Emily Perkins seems to get prettier and prettier in each one...

dmeister
I agree. In fact, towards the end when she had that vision where her eyes were all black and she had blood streaks from her eyes she looked really good. Or am I a weirdo for thinking that?
post #20 of 44
I can't get any of my friends to see these films simply because:
A)The title- "Ginger Snaps... the girl's name is Ginger ... har har har" (?)
or
B)Female Werewolves- which I don't get, since they've all seen the liferape that was UNDERWORLD

Argh! so frustrating!
post #21 of 44
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I agree. In fact, towards the end when she had that vision where her eyes were all black and she had blood streaks from her eyes she looked really good.
I, too, wanted her in all of her naughty evilness...

dmeister
post #22 of 44
It's always weird for me whenever I catch It on tv, always forgetting that Emily played the young girl in that.
post #23 of 44
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Originally Posted by RegVelJohnson
It's always weird for me whenever I catch It on tv, always forgetting that Emily played the young girl in that.
I only saw It after seeing Ginger Snaps, and it freaked me out when I saw young Emily and young Seth Green running around.
post #24 of 44
Finally got to see this one, bought it at Best Buy for $18.

Well spent money. You know what I like best about the GS movies? Emily of course. Seriously, each movie is so different from the other. They're all great as stand alone films. GS1 had the great chemistry with the girls. GS2 showed that Emily could carry a film, not to mention fall in love with that great smile. And GS3 showed that you could take the girls out out of their element, but you couldnt take the element out of the girls.

Not a bit disappointed.
post #25 of 44
Yes, her name is Ginger. You should point out to said friends that tha's the whole pun. Or are they miffed that it's not a horror picture about particularly sweet biscuits ?
post #26 of 44
I had written a review for the Corner earlier this summer, and I'll just remind everyone that I thought this was a really, really bad movie. I don't understand how people can bash junk like Underworld, and yet think this movie is any better. It completely lacks atmosphere; it seem to chance storylines every twenty minutes; and it features cheap attempts at scares, that aren't scary. It was such a shame to see the trilogy end this way. I think the first Ginger flick is perhaps one of the most clever horror flick of the past decade. Sure, it wasn't all that scary, but it wasn't really trying to be either. Instead, it played on its great premise, and actually delivered. It was kind of like Donnie Darko; a movie that might be considered 'horror', but is really more about the characters than anything else.

The Beginning however, just lacks wit. And it does try to be a scary movie, but it doesn't allow a scene to build up to its scares; it'll just throw out a scary shot every now and then. I prefer my horror where a scary scene last five to ten minutes, and the intensity of the scene just keeps building up. I love atmosphere in my horror films, and this flick had zero atmosphere.

It did look pretty though.
post #27 of 44
I went to go rent it yesterday, and it was SOLD OUT.
post #28 of 44
I just got the Canadian DVD..theres more features, and the covers way better. There was only 3 copies when I bought it, and they recieved a shipment of 10.
post #29 of 44
It looks like this little Canadian movie might be quite a success, I suppose word of mouth has been gradually building ever since the first one came out. This is good, if it becomes profitable we can hope to see more quality Canadian horror in the next few years.
post #30 of 44
It's being reported that the Canadian version is NOT anamorphic widescreen but the American version is.
post #31 of 44
Yo, Captain Supermarket. Maybe you're just a bad reviewer! Just messin' around.

GS3 was not the greatest film, but it was likeable. I wasn't disappointed with it. I learned a long time ago to not have high expectations when watching sequels.

There are tons of movies that I love that have really bad sequels. Look at the big pile of trash they call Starship Troopers 2!!! I knew that it would be nowhere near as good as the first, but man did that one stink.

Critters 3 & 4, about 95% of the Howling sequels (the only sequels I liked were 2 and the one in the castle).

From Dusk Til Dawn 2 was nothing compared to the original and the 3rd film blew it away too.

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey was a hanus sequel. And lets face it, Matrix 2 & 3 weren't as good as the original.

And for GS3, it didn't keep jumping or changing storylines. The storyline is simple, this movie tells how the Fitz sisters become "cursed." And GS3 lets the audience to get to know the other characters in the movie. While we all know that they'll become lambs for the slaughter, we got a lot of good backgrounds involving the characters. So you either felt bad or really enjoyed them getting mauled.

So, all in all, I own the Ginger Snaps trilogy and am not a damn bit disappointed in the series.
post #32 of 44
Saw it. Loved it. Partly due to the fact that it was just brainless fun. The second was really good but so depressing, and while I respect where it ended for its originality and unconventionalness (unconventionality?), it just didn't sit well with me. It's like Bridgette was one of my favorite horror movie protagonists ever (so much different from your average Neve Campbell or whoever the buxom idiot from FvsJ was), largely due to Emily Perkins being so perfectly cast, that I wanted her to have a happy ending. Snaps Back was much more separated from the shadow of the first one, just enjoyable and a breeze to watch. Liked the ending a lot too. I'm really glad for all the negative and mediocre reviews it received, because they allowed me to really appreciate it.
post #33 of 44
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Now we just need a box set with a shitload of extras.

I've watched the movie twice now and it was just as enjoyable the second time around. I will say though that without the girls it would have been a sleeper and not as in a hit either. They just make you want to watch every movement they make and listen to every bit of dialogue they speak. The supporting characters were very good imo. An interesting bunch especially the preacher and the injun. I would have liked to have seen the Indian whup some more werewolf ass though. I think my biggest complaint would be not enough werewolves. Not enough tension though there was some.
post #34 of 44
I will say this:

Dog Boy looked like shit.
Indian woman was balls.
They never explained what really happened to their parents (unless I zoned out or something). Not that this is really a fault, I just wanted to know.
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by RegVelJohnson
I will say this:

Dog Boy looked like shit.
Indian woman was balls.
They never explained what really happened to their parents (unless I zoned out or something). Not that this is really a fault, I just wanted to know.
Pay attention when they first come to the fort.
"We washed up on shore..but our parents were drowned.."
And if you think she was lying, she also says:
B - "Our parents drowned?"
G - "Yes, but they didn't suffer it was really quite peaceful."
post #36 of 44
I interpreted that as she was making it up, as if something else had happened but Ginger was going for something that would get them more sympathy. Now that I think about how they never explained it, maybe that was what really happened....
post #37 of 44
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Originally Posted by RegVelJohnson
I interpreted that as she was making it up, as if something else had happened but Ginger was going for something that would get them more sympathy.
I agree with this, and think she was pretty obviously being sarcastic ("Yes, it was quite peaceful" was far from subtle tongue-in-cheek humor). And it's unlikely that Bridgette wouldn't have asked how her parents died sooner.

dmeister
post #38 of 44
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I think they ran away. They hated their parents in Ginger Snaps why would that change.
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post #40 of 44
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cool.
post #41 of 44
How about Brigitte Snaps ?
post #42 of 44
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers, TMR
How about Brigitte Snaps ?
Or Brigitte Snatch
post #43 of 44
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Originally Posted by Chris Myers, TMR
How about Brigitte Snaps ?


Some other titles:


Set in the future.



Set between the events of part 1 and 2.

Random Titles:



Possible Spin Offs:



These were all made by 'smokeysnaps' @ the KI Forum.
post #44 of 44
I still haven't seen it. I'm incredibly broke. Must beg for coins soon.
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