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post #1 of 203
10/2/04 at 11:22am
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Man, am I glad I'm not home today... RedSox Orioles? Braves Cubs? Where are the games that ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING? Just because I'm on the east coast doesn't mean I don't want any part of those two amazing series on the left coast. Stupid FOX.

Sure hope ESPN is carrying the A's Angels series later on tonight, I'd rather not have to deal with MLB.tv.
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post #2 of 203
10/2/04 at 2:19pm
Alds both start tuesday but does anyone know the times?...I'm assuming the yanks will be primetime but will they have the sox play the al west winner at 4 in the aft or 10 at night?
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post #3 of 203
10/3/04 at 12:28am
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Now this, my friends, is a choke job.
"Steve Finley's grand slam capped a seven-run rally in the bottom of the ninth inning, and Los Angeles won the NL West by beating the San Francisco Giants 7-3 on Saturday."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think were in Level IV: The Broken Axle territory.
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post #4 of 203
10/3/04 at 12:47am
the giants are choking, true, but they've overacheived all year... and leaving hermanson in to walk 3 of 4 when he was clearly out of gas was a bad decision. The error by a defensive replacement didn't help things either. I would still give them a shot with schmidt on the hill tomorrow but the rockies don't appear to be even trying to beat the astros. gotta give houston credit, in the last 45 games they've gone 35 and 10. that's tough to compete with.
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post #5 of 203
10/3/04 at 1:44am
I love Alou but he has never been a good in game manager. At least you're not a Cubs fan right now.
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post #6 of 203
10/3/04 at 2:25am
heh, I'll take alou over dusty... but they both leave something to be desired in terms of in game managment.

actually I am just as dissapointed the cubs blew it. I'm a white sox fan and as they never set the world on fire I have to find my rooting interests where I can. based on time in chicago and northern california I pull for the giants and cubs when all else fails... and it fails pretty often.
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post #7 of 203
10/3/04 at 4:23am
I can't see how this is Alou's fault. Hermanson really did strike out a couple guys in that inning byt got squeezed by the ump. Anyway, this loss didn't even come close to the Dustan Mohr loss to the Padres earlier this week.

Ugly, ugly baseball. I think I've watched a little bit too much of it recently... starting to feel it like a gut punch. And props to Shawn Estes for again screwing the Giants when they needed him to pitch well...
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post #8 of 203
10/3/04 at 6:44am
Man, After the way my Boys bitch-slapped the A's all over the field last night (10-0) and coming from behind TWICE against Zito today to win the AL West, I'm glad we got postseason tickets now. Bartolo Colon had a terrible first half of the season and still ended up winning 18 games. I have no doubt in my mind that Bartolo and Escobar will both win 20-23 games EACH next year. and if Vladimir Guerrero (headed into the weekend leading everyone in the major leagues (100 or more AB) in home runs (10) and slugging (.733) since Sept. 1. And over the last two weeks, he has hit a ridiculous .500 (23-for-46), with three multi-homer games, two four-hit games, 13 RBI and zero games in which he didn't reach base at least once,
and scored or driven in a higher percentage of his team's runs (15.7 percent) than any other candidate except Miguel Tejada) Doesn't get this year's MVP award, Looting and rioting will ensue through the greater Orange County Metropolitan area.
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post #9 of 203
10/3/04 at 7:59pm
Thanks for the link, Monk. Bill Simmons is great.

Quote:
Originally Posted by canucklehead
Alds both start tuesday but does anyone know the times?...I'm assuming the yanks will be primetime but will they have the sox play the al west winner at 4 in the aft or 10 at night?
The broadcast schedule straight from MLB.com:

Minnesota Twins vs. New York Yankees
Game 1 MIN @ NYY Tue. Oct. 5 8:00 p.m. FOX
Game 2 MIN @ NYY Wed. Oct. 6 7:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 3 NYY @ MIN Fri. Oct. 8 8:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 4* NYY @ MIN Sat. Oct. 9 TBD TBD
Game 5* MIN @ NYY Sun. Oct. 10 TBD TBD

Boston Red Sox vs. Anaheim Angels
Game 1 BOS @ ANA Tue. Oct. 5 4:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 2 BOS @ ANA Wed. Oct. 6 10:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 3 ANA @ BOS Fri. Oct. 8 4:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 4* ANA @ BOS Sat. Oct. 9 TBD TBD
Game 5* BOS @ ANA Sun. Oct. 10 TBD TBD

Los Angeles Dodgers vs. St. Louis Cardinals
Game 1 LA @ STL Tue. Oct. 5 1:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 2 LA @ STL Thu. Oct. 7 8:00 p.m. FOX
Game 3 STL @ LA Sat. Oct. 9 TBD TBD
Game 4* STL @ LA Sun. Oct. 10 TBD TBD
Game 5* LA @ STL Mon. Oct. 11 TBD TBD

Houston Astros vs. Atlanta Braves
Game 1 HOU @ ATL Wed. Oct. 6 4:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 2 HOU @ ATL Thu. Oct. 7 4:00 p.m. ESPN
Game 3 ATL @ HOU Sat. Oct. 9 TBD TBD
Game 4* ATL @ HOU Sun. Oct. 10 TBD TBD
Game 5* HOU @ ATL Mon. Oct. 11 TBD TBD
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post #10 of 203
10/4/04 at 12:15am
Thread Starter 
So, anybody going to pick winners?

AL
Twins over the Yankees:
I love the Twins rotation in a short series, and their built not to drop close games with their bullpen and defense. If theres one thing that bugs me, it's Nathan's shakey performance against the Yankees during the regular season.

RedSox over the Angels
I'm of the belief that picking the RedSox to do anything is a risky proposition, but I refuse to believe that lightning will strike twice with this Angels team. (They'll have to make me look stupid twice before I admit defeat)

NL
Dodgers over the Cardinals
No real sense in this pick, I just like the Dodgers, and the Cardinals really remind me of that Mariner team in 2001.

Astros over the Braves
I'll take the team with Clemens and Oswalt in a 5 game series, and really, who has much confidence in this Brave team going far into the postseason with their rotation?
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post #11 of 203
10/4/04 at 11:19am
I'll be the first to throw out the Astros/Twins world series pick. Santana is going to mow through the Yankees and the Angels like it's nobody's business, and the Astros are just hot.
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post #12 of 203
10/4/04 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
No real sense in this pick, I just like the Dodgers, and the Cardinals really remind me of that Mariner team in 2001.
Yes, which means they'll choke.

I can't disagree with any of your picks, Monk. Although history is well sided with the Yankees.
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post #13 of 203
10/4/04 at 11:50am
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Now that I think about it, theres no way the road dogs win every series, but it sure would be fun.
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post #14 of 203
10/4/04 at 12:19pm
Well, at the start of the season, I picked the Angels to win it all. A week ago, I didn't think they were going to make the playoffs, so I was going to go with the Twins winning it all... I guess I have to go back on my never-say-die boys... Angels will win it all.
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post #15 of 203
10/4/04 at 12:21pm
Division Series: Angels in 5
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post #16 of 203
10/4/04 at 12:21pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomstick
Well, at the start of the season, I picked the Angels to win it all. A week ago, I didn't think they were going to make the playoffs, so I was going to go with the Twins winning it all... I guess I have to go back on my never-say-die boys... Angels will win it all.
I told my friend that the Angels and Astros would both make it to the playoffs. He agreed with the Angels pick, but he was very doubtful about the Astros. I guess I was right.
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post #17 of 203
10/4/04 at 3:00pm
Don't follow baseball enough to make an educated guess, so I'll just go out on a limb:

Yankees over Twins...because, well, it's the Yankees
Red Sox over Angels

Red Sox over Yankees...because one day it will finally happen

Cardinals over Dodgers
Braves over Houston...the Cinderella story is over

Braves over Cardinals...but I don't know how

Braves over Red Sox...because you may make it to the World Series, but you ain't winning it yet.

Of course, living in the Atlanta area, I may have a bit of a bias.
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post #18 of 203
10/4/04 at 3:09pm
picks

NL
cards over the dodgers
astros over the braves
cards over the astros

AL
twins over the yanks
red sox over the angels
red sox over the twins

WS
cards over the red sox


what about postseason awards? who are your MVPs and Cy Youngs?

I'm usually a pure numbers guy, bonus points if you're on a winning team, but not necessary if the numbers are compelling enough

AL MVP- Vlad
AL Cy Young- Santana

NL MVP- duh, Barry
NL Cy Young- Rocket
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post #19 of 203
10/4/04 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by thechairmanofthebored
AL MVP- Vlad
AL Cy Young- Santana

NL MVP- duh, Barry
NL Cy Young- Rocket
Agree.

It would also be ironic if Randy Johnson gets the Cy Young over Roger Clemens even though Randy Johnson doesn't have as many wins.. since Nolan Ryan got jobbed out of a Cy Young in 1987 strictly because of wins.
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post #20 of 203
10/4/04 at 3:12pm
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Originally Posted by thechairmanofthebored
I'm usually a pure numbers guy, bonus points if you're on a winning team, but not necessary if the numbers are compelling enough
The Ichiro needs to be in the AL slot. No matter the loses. He performed top notch with a drastic losing record, completing four 200+ plus consecutive seasons.
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post #21 of 203
10/4/04 at 3:19pm
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Johan Santana and Barry Bonds should be locks, Guerrero took back his award with the past ten games, but the NL Cy Young is a bit more interesting.

I worried that Santana wouldn't get the wins needed for the Cy Young, not because wins are the most important measure, but because they're perceived to be so... so when he hit 20, he shored up his bid. Randy Johnson on ther hand is a bit more interesting. If were talking about performance, he's been the best pitcher in the NL, but 14 wins? If they overlook that and still give him the award, I'll actually have my faith restored in the voting system.

But since I don't believe that'll happen, Roger Clemens it is.
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post #22 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by L7 Productions
The Ichiro needs to be in the AL slot. No matter the loses. He performed top notch with a drastic losing record, completing four 200+ plus consecutive seasons.

this issue is kind of funny because on the one hand you have a lot of people who denigrate singles hitters and a lot of others who seem to think because Ichiro broke the record he should win the MVP regardless of what his production actually meant or if he was on a winning team. But if you look at how many bases Ichiro generated vs. Vlad, you'll see that, although somewhat closer than the anti singles crowd might expect, Vlad still comes out on top. Add to that the fact that Vlad had better RBI + runs scored total and he was on a winning team and I think the choice is pretty clear. In the NL it's not even close. Barry generated a full 110 bases more than his closest AL competition, and 67 more than his closest NL competition, which was Pujols. I realize this is not exactly scientific... there is no perfect stat. It's just one of the ways I judge the numbers part of it.
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post #23 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:09pm
I'm wondering how the Red Sox are going to go down this year. Sorry Rommel, I'm a believer in curses. I think they are the best team in the post season, I just feel something bad's gonna happen.
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post #24 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:17pm
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Originally Posted by Boomstick
I'm wondering how the Red Sox are going to go down this year. Sorry Rommel, I'm a believer in curses. I think they are the best team in the post season, I just feel something bad's gonna happen.
I'm very, very, VERY nervous about tomorrow's game (and the rest of the division series). Anaheim was a team I didn't want to face, but then again, all post-season teams are good, so I guess it really doesn't matter. We were going on the road no matter what, I just liked our chances in Minnesota better.

That being said, I think the Sox will put up a hell of a fight, and I can only pray they remember what they did to sweep these guys back in August. Before that sweep, though, the Angels were 4-2 against the Sox, so this has all of the makings of a classic series.

I try not to believe in curses, but after watching the Sox go down in the most gut-wrenching ways possible, I have to think there's something going on. However, I will say this - the Sox were going nowhere until they traded Nomar...now look at 'em. Who's going to the playoffs? Who's not? This isn't a stab at the Cubs; rather a stab at the little whiney baby Nomar. I wasn't a big fan of the trade at first, but I have seen the light.

One last day/night of sanity until all fucking hell breaks loose.

GO SOX!
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post #25 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:19pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomstick
I'm wondering how the Red Sox are going to go down this year. Sorry Rommel, I'm a believer in curses. I think they are the best team in the post season, I just feel something bad's gonna happen.
Their mid-season slump hints this to me.

As for ichiro as MVP, I'm not riding the record breaking bandwagon. I'm simply going on his performance with his team. He probably won't win it, and I'm fine with that.
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post #26 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:30pm
Don't get me wrong here... I don't hate the Red Sox, but I love having their company in the "Almost 100 years of zero championships" that they share with both Chicago teams. If the Red Sox win, I lose some suckage company.... I'd be just the White Sox and Cubs.

That God for the Cubs.
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post #27 of 203
10/4/04 at 4:50pm
I'm betting ratings will be down from last year in the NL.

NLDS
Atlanta def Astros 3-1
Dodgers def Cardnials 3-1

The Cards are in trouble w/ that pitching staff. The Braves/Astros are known for playoff choking so somebody has to win.

ALDS
Angels def Red Sox 3-2
Twins def Yankees 3-2

Foulke will cost the Red Sox atleast 1 game and Santana and Radke are top 1-2 punch going in to postseason.

NLCS
Dodgers def Atlanta 4-2
ALCS
Twins def Angels 4-1

World Series Twins def Dodgers 4-3
Twins will ride Santana to a ring.
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post #28 of 203
10/4/04 at 5:21pm
NL:

Cards over Dodgers; The Dodgers did not impress this week. And their offense still stinks.

Braves over Astros: The "Killer B's" boys have lain down before. Beltran is the wild card.

Cards over Braves: Too much offense.

AL

Red Sox over Angels: Team of destiny w/ lousy manager beats weaker team w/good manager. Life isn't always fair.

Yankees over Twins: Yankee mystique w/Rivera bags them another one.

Red Sox over Yankees: It has to happen some time.

WS

Cardinals over Red Sox in six
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post #29 of 203
10/4/04 at 5:33pm
Yankees over Twins in 4
Angels over BoSox in 5

Astros over Braves in 5
Cardinals over Dodgers in 3

Yanks over Angels in 6
Cards over Astros in 4

Yanks over Cards in 7

Rob gets fired by his Cards lovin' boss.
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post #30 of 203
10/4/04 at 5:40pm
Vladdy will tear the sox a new asshole but i believe in schilling and between pedro/wake/bronson they've got to win one
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post #31 of 203
10/5/04 at 11:30am
I'm very excited about today, but I'm also very nervous. And I think ESPN just jinxed the shit out of the Sox with this article:

ESPN'S PREDICTION

Good read, but damn.
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post #32 of 203
10/5/04 at 11:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rommel
I'm very excited about today, but I'm also very nervous. And I think ESPN just jinxed the shit out of the Sox with this article:

ESPN'S PREDICTION

Good read, but damn.
You're right about the good read, but it's baseball. Anything can and will happen.
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post #33 of 203
10/5/04 at 12:15pm
Thread Starter 
Fun article, just be glad that Sports Illustrated didn't jinx you, their Kung Fu is superior.
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post #34 of 203
10/5/04 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
Fun article, just be glad that Sports Illustrated didn't jinx you, their Kung Fu is superior.
I still have that Cubs issue laying around here somewhere....
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post #35 of 203
10/5/04 at 6:29pm
HOLY SHIT. It's currently 8 - 0 Sox, after Manny just CRUSHED a 3-run shot to center. Wow. I feel much better now, but the game is FAR from over.

GO SOX!!!!
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post #36 of 203
10/5/04 at 7:10pm
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Far from over, up 7 in the 6th? Man, I wonder what over is in Boston. I'd actually think about taking Schilling out at this point.
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post #37 of 203
10/5/04 at 7:33pm
8-0 with schilling on the hill is far from over? Jeez you red sox fans sure are a skittish lot... not that you haven't earned the right to be.

Regarding Stark's pick... I don't think the BoSox are a bad choice at all, but what does not winning 100 games have to do with anything? Sure trends are important, but sports pundits sure throw some really random ones out there as justification for their picks.

THE COLTS HAVEN'T WON BACK TO BACK HOLIDAY ROAD GAMES SINCE LBJ WAS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!
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post #38 of 203
10/5/04 at 7:46pm
Quote:
Originally posted by thechairmanofthebored:
...what does not winning 100 games have to do with anything?
I think it's safe to say that professional athletes are a superstitious lot. ESPECIALLY baseball players in Beantown.
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post #39 of 203
10/5/04 at 8:13pm
SOX WIN 9 - 3

I feel a little better now. The Sox won the game they were supposed to behind Schilling, the Sox bat's were hot, they took advantage of Angel miscues, and the Sox take away home-field advantage. However, it's still a long road in this ALDS, and the Sox have their work cut out for them.

Now, let's hope the Twins take down the Yankees tonight.
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post #40 of 203
10/5/04 at 10:56pm
Twinkies up 2-0 Go Minnesota!
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post #41 of 203
10/5/04 at 11:45pm
Thread Starter 
Santana better have a short leash in the 8th, he hasn't had command of his changeup all day.

Or is he done? If so, great gutty performance out of Santana, in enemy territory without his best stuff.
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post #42 of 203
10/6/04 at 12:50am
Yanks lose. Double plays doomed the Yanks. 2 to go.
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post #43 of 203
10/6/04 at 12:58am
So whats more powerful? mystique and aura or Arod's inability to get a meaningful hit? i guess we'll find out
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post #44 of 203
10/6/04 at 7:44am
The latter, unfortunately. This team has twice the payroll of the late-90s Yanks but none of their toughness or character.
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post #45 of 203
10/6/04 at 3:30pm
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This is just sad, the attendance is so poor in Atlanta that they're actually giving away tickets to tomorrows game for anyone that buys tickets to todays.

Is it really that bad in Atlanta?
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post #46 of 203
10/6/04 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
This is just sad, the attendance is so poor in Atlanta that they're actually giving away tickets to tomorrows game for anyone that buys tickets to todays.

Is it really that bad in Atlanta?
Yes it it. Don't you remember last year in the NLDS when it was about 50/50 Cub/Braves fans. They are spoiled in Atlanta and don't care unless it's the World Series.
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post #47 of 203
10/6/04 at 6:19pm
That's because Cubs fans don't have jobs to worry about...
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post #48 of 203
10/6/04 at 8:15pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob Singer
That's because Cubs fans don't have jobs to worry about...
We all know people with no jobs can afford plane tickets to Atlanta, a hotel room, and playoff tickets.

The Braves blew game 1. Atleast both the Astros and Cardnials can't get to the World Series.
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post #49 of 203
10/6/04 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by MoNkaholic
This is just sad, the attendance is so poor in Atlanta that they're actually giving away tickets to tomorrows game for anyone that buys tickets to todays.

Is it really that bad in Atlanta?
4:00 gametime + Atlanta traffic = shit sandwich

I would have love to have gone (and actually had someone offer me tix to the game today), but I would need to leave work at like 2:00 to get there to make the 4:00 game. And the result of the 1st game isn't going to help attendance, I'll tell you that. This is what you'll hear on ATL sports talk tomorrow: "Here we go again..."
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post #50 of 203
10/6/04 at 10:15pm


BOO-YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guess SOMEBODY needs to tell the Braves that they should WAKE UP for the play-offs!

(yes, as an Astros fan, I know this can't last, but goddamn - they even WALKED CLEMENS!!!)
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