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post #51 of 68
No, Williams haters are usually musically ignorant. And I don't mean it as a slur, merely that the musicality of Williams' scores is generally pretty much beyond repproach. In technical terms. He's up there with Howard Shore as one of finest orchestrators (along with cohort Ken Wannberg) of modern musical film scoring (and we are talking film scoring not modern classical or musique concrete which I realise are far more daring and radical than any regular tunesmith would sensibly be)

Of course he's also an immense popularist, something aesthetes are loath to give good grace to, because it goes against their highbrow worldview (and yes, I realise I'm saying this as an enormously wanky MB poster, but one who also revels as much in popular and trash art and not for sake of appearance or to look "cool")

The fact is, you won't find many (including Bregovich, Priesner, Yared, Tomni, Eno et al) who have a richer musical legacy than John Williams who's influences can be seen as ranging from Copland, Scheonberg, Hanson, Korngold, Prokofiev and beyond. Not John Cage, sure, but hardly Souza either.

And because he (and Jerry Goldsmith) revels in it, unlike the minimilism of the great Thomas Newman and his Arvo Part fetishisations, Williams is often labelled as "pompous", "obvious" and artistically moribund by those who would want to be seen to be above all that 'mainstream nonsense'.

Which probably cancels out Coward, Gerswin, Porter, Arlen, Mercer, Berlin and myriad other popular composers with "obvious" orchestartions. But, whatever. If they don't like it, it's their loss.

Listen to some of his and Goldsmith's non-cinema music and you'll see someone just as challenging as the European art set.
post #52 of 68
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Originally Posted by Straxboy - An Anthony Hickox Film
No, Williams haters are usually musically ignorant. And I don't mean it as a slur, merely that the musicality of Williams' scores is generally pretty much beyond repproach. In technical terms. He's up there with Howard Shore as one of finest orchestrators (along with cohort Ken Wannberg) of modern musical film scoring (and we are talking film scoring not modern classical or musique concrete which I realise are far more daring and radical than any regular tunesmith would sensibly be)

Of course he's also an immense popularist, something aesthetes are loath to give good grace to, because it goes against their highbrow worldview (and yes, I realise I'm saying this as an enormously wanky MB poster, but one who also revels as much in popular and trash art and not for sake of appearance or to look "cool")

The fact is, you won't find many (including Bregovich, Priesner, Yared, Tomni, Eno et al) who have a richer musical legacy than John Williams who's influences can be seen as ranging from Copland, Scheonberg, Hanson, Korngold, Prokofiev and beyond. Not John Cage, sure, but hardly Souza either.

And because he (and Jerry Goldsmith) revels in it, unlike the minimilism of the great Thomas Newman and his Arvo Part fetishisations, Williams is often labelled as "pompous", "obvious" and artistically moribund by those who would want to be seen to be above all that 'mainstream nonsense'.

Which probably cancels out Coward, Gerswin, Porter, Arlen, Mercer, Berlin and myriad other popular composers with "obvious" orchestartions. But, whatever. If they don't like it, it's their loss.

Listen to some of his and Goldsmith's non-cinema music and you'll see someone just as challenging as the European art set.
Williams is great but not too terribly original. Borrows from Holst quite a bit in his most famous work (the OT Star Wars soundtracks). His most original work was the soundtrack for The Cowboys, and that is quite fine indeed.

Movie-wise, my current faves:

Ennio Morricone - the Mission score still gets played weekly in my house.
James Newton Howard - the Signs soundtrack still holds up despite my flip-flopping over if the movie itself is good or not.
Michael Giacchino - his work on Alias is shite but the Incredibles soundtrack is the best James Bond movie sountrack I've ever heard, for argueably the best James Bond movie ever.

I would think that the title of this thread should have been "Favorite Movie Sountrack Music Composers" though, as if these are the answers given to Favorite Composers in general, that's just fucking sad.
post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dr. Sizzle
Angelo Badalamenti - The unsung hero of all of David Lynch's work. His work on Twin Peaks remains some of my all time favorite compostitions to this day.
His work on the two or three actual orchestrated pieces from Wild at Heart (not that it isn't fun to listen to Nic Cage singing Elvis' Love Me, but come on) and all of his work from Lost Highway is fantastic as well. Very creepy!
post #54 of 68
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Can't change the title Mike but at the first post I changed it to film composers

That sucks that The Incredibles didn't get a nod for score, Lemony Snicket did....I thought tht escore in that was really nothing amazing, didn't stick with me.
post #55 of 68
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Originally Posted by Darth_Chocula
Can't change the title Mike but at the first post I changed it to film composers

That sucks that The Incredibles didn't get a nod for score, Lemony Snicket did....I thought tht escore in that was really nothing amazing, didn't stick with me.
What really sucked is that one of the pieces on the Incredibles soundtrack was pretty much what the pit band would play note for note before Michael went up to get the award (if he had one). Track 15 - Escaping Nomanisan starting around the 33 second mark. The tambourine kills me every time.
post #56 of 68
Most film score is just white noise, like it or not. My favorite composers only turned in a few full scores that I really like ... John Williams, for the obvious ones. James Horner's score for Trek 2 is terrific, as is Pouldoris' score for Conan the Barbarian. But I don't care for many of their other work (not to say they're bad or that I hated them ... I just didn't find them that memorable.)

Same with Jerry Goldsmith ... I love his music for The Omen, but find some of his work heavy handed. (His lack of subtletly is sometimes an advantage, though, as in The Omen and Gremlins.)

I love Elfman's score for The Hulk, but a lot of his music sounds far too much alike. I DARE you to tell the difference between his early '90s themes (The Flash, Darkman, etc.)

Wojciech Kilar's music from Bram Stoker's Dracula was pretty damn fine, too.
post #57 of 68
Morricone's music for "The Mission" is one of my favourite movie soundtrack. Unbelieveable. I can listen to that soundtrack over and over.

During the Toronto Film Festival a few years ago, I got to see a restored film of Sergei Eisenstein's "Alexander Nevsky". Great film, hard to believe is was made in the 1930's. The "Battle on the Ice" is a classic scene. What made the experience even better was that there was a live orchestra, choir, and soloists that performed Sergey Prokofiev's original music score during the playing of the movie. Prokofiev condensed the film score to a 45 minute cantata after the film's release. There are a number of different recordings out there and I believe it's called "Alexander Nevsky Cantata". Beautiful music with a sweeping orchestral score, large choir singing in Russian and the basses reaching for those low notes that only Russian composers seem to love, and an alto solo that brings a tear to your eye (it's that beautiful).
post #58 of 68
I also have to add my admiration for Jon Brion and Michael Giacchino for Eternal Sunshine and The Incredibles, respectively. I'm still waiting to see Huckabees, but I've heard the score is very good as well.

I'll mention one that no one else has yet: Tan Dun. I must have listened to the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon soundtrack for at least 3 weeks straight after I first saw the movie in the theaters.
post #59 of 68
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mike Arsenault
What really sucked is that one of the pieces on the Incredibles soundtrack was pretty much what the pit band would play note for note before Michael went up to get the award (if he had one). Track 15 - Escaping Nomanisan starting around the 33 second mark. The tambourine kills me every time.
Holy hell your right..........

It should've been nominated simply on the Incredits though, that was good enough, the whole album takes any competitor this year and breaks their spines commando style.

The coolest track is probably Bob vs. the Omnidroid though, while Off to Work is great for travelling............also of note is the opening of New and Improved with it's opening that always screams hero about to be smited, also Marital rescue when it cuts to the jet after "Let me see" cause that was a cool reveal.........

Oh yeah, 100 Mile Dash is excellence also.

........................

.........I can't believe it wasn't nominated...........god damn it.
post #60 of 68
Danny Elfman (Batman score reeled me in)
John Williams (umm where to start?)
Howard Shore (Began with Silence of the Lambs for me)
Don Davis (The Matrix Revolutions soundtrack, nuff said)
Hanz Zimmer (Gladiator was it, but he does over do it everyso)
James Newton Howard (Unbreakable, now Batman!)
post #61 of 68
I absolutey love Mark Mothersbaugh's scores. His music in Tenenbaums and The Life Aquatic is some of my favorite music, not to mention Rushmore. He phones in a lot of shite, but I love his work with Wes.
post #62 of 68
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Originally Posted by Mr_Cellophane
I absolutey love Mark Mothersbaugh's scores. His music in Tenenbaums and The Life Aquatic is some of my favorite music, not to mention Rushmore. He phones in a lot of shite, but I love his work with Wes.

My absolute favorite piece of his is "Let me tell you about my ship"

and god damn, the Huckabees score/songs deserved oscars.........some loophole must've been at work on that one or something [Cause the credits say score inspired by Jon Brions songs which then lists them, they are of course still on the OST]

Ijust watched it and the music is even better, especially since the instrumental version of "Get What It's About" accompanies the whole playing out of Brads fire.
post #63 of 68
ZATOICHI wasn't Hisaishi. It was Keiichi Suzuki.
post #64 of 68
Martinez for Solaris and John Barry for the otherwise forgettable The Black Hole and Moonraker
post #65 of 68
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Originally Posted by Grofield
Thank you! I was beginning to think no one would mention these three superb composers. As much as I love Soderbergh's style, his movies don't really come alive until Holmes and Martinez work their magic. Ditto for Kitano and Miyazaki and their collaboration with Hisaishi. I would rate OCEAN'S TWELVE, SOLARIS and ZATOICHI among my favorite scores -- but OUT OF SIGHT, TRAFFIC and SPIRITED AWAY are stiff competition!
Yep, Martinez's tunes are very subtle and not too loud on the ears, especially during Solaris, after the movie I could barely remember any music, but it still remained in the back of my mind somehow. I like Out of Sight best out of Holmes's soundtracks, and his non-soundtrack work is also worth checking out, especially 'Let's Get Killed'.
post #66 of 68
Has anyone mentioned Stu Phillips?
- Buck Rodgers
- Battlestar Galactice

John Barry
- Black Hole
- Numerous James Bond soundtracks including the infamous James Bond Theme


I still have these albums from when I was a kid.
post #67 of 68
Ennio Morricone (WHO SAW HER DIE and BIRD WITH THE CRYSTAL PLUMAGE rivals anything from the Segio Leone epics. But, ORCA and THE EXORCIST II touch me in my bathing suit area with their over the top, lunatic genius)

Goblin

Tangerine Dream (THE KEEP and SORCERER, enough said)

Jerry Goldsmith (His THE LAST RUN score is on repeat play right now)

Christopher Young (John Ottman flat out plagerized THE USUAL SUSPECTS score from THE POWER and THE DORM THAT DRIPPED BLOOD).

Loved Iva Davies' work on RAZORBACK

Simon Boswell's DUST DEVIL was an amazingly lush and epic score, and I recommend it to everyone.

Never cared much for the Media Ventures gang though. I dig Zimmer's earler stuff, but they've become McScore now.

James Horner lost it after CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER. Sure, there were touches of greatness in RANSOM, but for the most part, he's composed canned noise since.

Mark Snow's work on Millenium was nothing short of breathtaking.

Don Davis is a bland, generic tosser.

The best part of Michael Kamen's DIE HARD score were the bits taken from James Horner's ALIENS and John Scott's MAN ON FIRE scores.
post #68 of 68
John Williams (not lately though)

Howard Shore

Jerry Goldsmith

Danny Elfman (has sucked balls lately)

Jon Brion

Basil Poledouris (go Robo!)
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