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post #1 of 39
10/21/04 at 10:58pm
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Okay, so I've done it in the past, and used to give the argument about screwing the executives... But I've read several posts in various parts of here that talk about watching a botlegged movie and feeling disappointed with it. Screw you, you don't get that right. Grow up, people, The producers and directors aren't going to hurt from this, but the little guys are, the technicians and carpenters and all the other non glamour, non pay or play people that actually work their asses off on a film. Once I actually thought about it, I never downloaded a movie again. Three years now, no looking back. I've been tempted, I wanted to see Shaun of the Dead along time ago, but the wait was worth it, and nothing beats the big screen after all.
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post #2 of 39
10/22/04 at 12:00am
They should make a PSA about this and run it at the theaters.
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post #3 of 39
10/22/04 at 12:05am
Totally. It would kick ass if they could get a humble set carpenter to share his life story and tell the audience why downloading movies is evil. And stuff.
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post #4 of 39
10/22/04 at 12:14am
I think you're missing the bigger picture here Balmundo. If you download movies ... you're taking the food right out of Manny Perry's mouth. & man .... that's just not cool.
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post #5 of 39
10/22/04 at 2:41am
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You're all missing the point. The reason that ticket prices are rising seemingly exponentially is because of this crap. And the reason I have to sit through those stupid PSAs and all the commercials trying to sell me stuff I don't want or need.
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post #6 of 39
11/27/04 at 9:01am
Hmm, I thought ticket prices are going up because most people in Hollywood are overpaid for successes they weren't responsible for. That's why we have effing DUREX ads playing movie theaters over here!
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post #7 of 39
11/27/04 at 9:18am
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Originally Posted by Balmudo
The producers and directors aren't going to hurt from this, but the little guys are, the technicians and carpenters and all the other non glamour, non pay or play people that actually work their asses off on a film.
You do know that by the time a movie hits theaters, those "little people" have already cashed their paycheck for it - and probably worked on another two pictures since?

If you want to avoid piracy, avoid it because it's theft, but don't pretend that somebody downloading a bootleg of Anacondas means that the guy who lays the dolly track won't get paid. That's propaganda bullshit put forth by an industry that can't be arsed communicating a message on anything other than a knee-jerk emotional response.

Ditto for the old "piracy funds terrorists" argument.
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post #8 of 39
11/27/04 at 9:22am
I download a bootleg here and there, but only when it's a film I really liked and saw in theaters already once or twice and that I'll end up buying on dvd.
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post #9 of 39
11/27/04 at 7:25pm
I'm against piracy, but I did see Van Helsing on a bootleg & I'm fucking glad I did !
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post #10 of 39
11/27/04 at 8:16pm
I'm all for movie piracy if Johnny Depp and Geoffrey Rush are involved.
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post #11 of 39
11/29/04 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by Wolfwood
That's why we have effing DUREX ads playing movie theaters over here!
They have Durex ads showing in Bahrain? Man, times have changed.
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post #12 of 39
11/29/04 at 10:51am
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti
They have Durex ads showing in Bahrain? Man, times have changed.

Oh yes....was actually the most frightening thing about watching Resident Evil Apocolypse. I mean, wtf is up with that army of sperm following a guy on his date!?!?! Even more peculiar is that was followed by ads for Princess Diaries 2 and a McDonald's spot.....
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post #13 of 39
11/29/04 at 2:57pm
I dont have a position on the bootleg thing...

WHat I dont understand is how people can sit thru that shaky cam shit with muffled sound and some black guy's voice coming out your left channel saying "You nigger. watch dis part, u'z recordin?". F-That!

I had one bootleg once of FoTR. It was from the Academy Screener and I watched the shit out of that but that was becuase it was DVD quality bye then, the other bootleg I had was of Episode 1 and was VHS...BOth of which I saw multiple times in the theater and have Tickets for incase the bootleg police ever had any questions for me
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post #14 of 39
11/29/04 at 3:24pm
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Originally Posted by Balmudo
You're all missing the point. The reason that ticket prices are rising seemingly exponentially is because of this crap. And the reason I have to sit through those stupid PSAs and all the commercials trying to sell me stuff I don't want or need.
Now bootlegs are the scapegoat for inflation?
I'd bet my house the movie industry loses more ticket sales to kids sneaking into theaters than it does to piracy.
Piracy is no more a threat to the industry than television or home video. People will continue to go to the movies because people like to go out. So there.
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post #15 of 39
11/29/04 at 3:27pm
Oct 17, 2003:
http://www.operationsombrero.com/Art...mpaa031017.htm
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post #16 of 39
11/29/04 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by Ade Brooks
I'm against piracy, but I did see Van Helsing on a bootleg & I'm fucking glad I did !
Under no circumstances should someone be glad they saw "Van Helsing."
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post #17 of 39
11/29/04 at 3:38pm
Honestly, when you have movies grossing in the hundreds of millions of dollars...who cares if 10,000 ppl didn't pay money to see it?

There was at least 10 times that many that paid for it...an exorbitant amount in my opinion...

Hey, I've got a great idea...why don't I just wait for it to come out on DVD and I'll rent/buy it and watch it on my fancy little home theater system...with my 32 in. LCD flat screen TV...and my Boy Scout "Trail's End" microwaveable Kettle Corn-style popcorn...

oh yeah, and my Orange Pineapple juice... (grin)
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post #18 of 39
11/29/04 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by PsYcHwArD101
Honestly, when you have movies grossing in the hundreds of millions of dollars...who cares if 10,000 ppl didn't pay money to see it?

There was at least 10 times that many that paid for it...an exorbitant amount in my opinion...
Maybe you're kidding, but it's pretty obvious to most people that you can't justify stealing just because the victim is rich. Furthermore, as movie making costs ever increase, the movies themselves need to make more and more money just to break even, and movies that flop hurt the industry that's trying to make the next film. So the workers do get it in the neck eventually.
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post #19 of 39
11/29/04 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by Van Jones
Maybe you're kidding, but it's pretty obvious to most people that you can't justify stealing just because the victim is rich. Furthermore, as movie making costs ever increase, the movies themselves need to make more and more money just to break even, and movies that flop hurt the industry that's trying to make the next film. So the workers do get it in the neck eventually.
Then maybe they should be more concerned about producing a quality product instead of shit like Van Helsing and The Polar Express.
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post #20 of 39
11/29/04 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Then maybe they should be more concerned about producing a quality product instead of shit like Van Helsing and The Polar Express.
Lack of quality is also not a valid excuse for theft.
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post #21 of 39
11/29/04 at 5:47pm
Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor is a crime justified by societies since the beginning of time. Guys like robin hood (yeah, i know it's just a story) are seen as heroes. People like to think that if the victim is rich, then he must've gotten it by screwing others so it's cool to screw them too. It's no big deal. Bootleggers are simply trying to right all the wrongs in this world that the bush administration refuses to.
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post #22 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by Van Jones
Lack of quality is also not a valid excuse for theft.
So what?
My heart weeps for those extra few pennies stolen from Hollywood's pocket. If they think the best way to prevent diminishing returns is to campaign against bootleggers, they deserve to get stolen from.
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post #23 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by Werbal_Kint
Under no circumstances should someone be glad they saw "Van Helsing."
You have a valid point there.
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post #24 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:04pm
I don't download a lot but I do from time to time. Mostly because I hate almost every aspect of going to a movie theater. I have a very nice home theater setup and I don't see the appeal of sitting in a room with a bunch of strangers to watch a movie. Not to mention the inevitable jackasses who think they're freaking comedians yelling shit out during the movie. That just completely takes me out of the moment. Or the people who can't hold their bladder for a couple of hours and have to get up in the middle of the movie. Of course, they never sit on the end of the aisle, it's always deep in the center. If there was a legit way to see a movie right it came out at home then I would gladly pay for it. And when I do download I only watch it once or twice then buy the DVD.
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post #25 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by Balmudo
Okay, so I've done it in the past, and used to give the argument about screwing the executives... But I've read several posts in various parts of here that talk about watching a botlegged movie and feeling disappointed with it. Screw you, you don't get that right. Grow up, people, The producers and directors aren't going to hurt from this, but the little guys are, the technicians and carpenters and all the other non glamour, non pay or play people that actually work their asses off on a film. Once I actually thought about it, I never downloaded a movie again. Three years now, no looking back. I've been tempted, I wanted to see Shaun of the Dead along time ago, but the wait was worth it, and nothing beats the big screen after all.

That's all well and good. But what do you say about films that will never never ever be released on DVD or in theaters? Films that will never be printed again? Films that will never ever be imported?
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post #26 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:30pm
The Star Wars Christmas Special?
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post #27 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:31pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
The Star Wars Christmas Special?
Haha. That could be one example.
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post #28 of 39
11/29/04 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
So what?
What do you mean, 'so what?' If it's theft, it's theft. Smug your way around that one, smug-boy.
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post #29 of 39
11/30/04 at 10:13am
they deserve to get stolen from.

No-one deserves to get stolen from.
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post #30 of 39
11/30/04 at 10:46am
Arrggg! I love pirate movies
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post #31 of 39
11/30/04 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by Spacktard
they deserve to get stolen from.

No-one deserves to get stolen from.
What about Mr. Burns from the Simpsons?
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post #32 of 39
11/30/04 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
So what?
My heart weeps for those extra few pennies stolen from Hollywood's pocket. If they think the best way to prevent diminishing returns is to campaign against bootleggers, they deserve to get stolen from.
What about the fuckin idiots who make profit from them??

The fact that the movies are available for download is one thing, and it doesn't upset me if I hear someone watched a movie that way. But the fact that you can go to an organized swap meet here in California, and buy from a vendor these movies in quality made DVD cases for $5-10 each just chaps my fuckin’ ass. I mean you have these idiots selling illegal copies of movies out in the wide open at a legal selling place. Who prepares these DVDs, who provides them to the sellers, and who is getting the profits for them?? It makes me sick.
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post #33 of 39
11/30/04 at 3:05pm
An industry that doesnt think twice about charging you not once, not twice, but three times and more for the same product over and over again?

I used to be totally against bootlegging. But the greedy pricks in the industry have gotten so out of hand, their eyes so green, that I am starting to think they deserve it!

I hate liars and thieves, but when the thieves are stealing from even bigger rats than they are I can't really shed too many tears.
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post #34 of 39
11/30/04 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by gl2899
An industry that doesnt think twice about charging you not once, not twice, but three times and more for the same product over and over again?

I used to be totally against bootlegging. But the greedy pricks in the industry have gotten so out of hand, their eyes so green, that I am starting to think they deserve it!

I hate liars and thieves, but when the thieves are stealing from even bigger rats than they are I can't really shed too many tears.
hear hear!
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post #35 of 39
11/30/04 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by gl2899
An industry that doesnt think twice about charging you not once, not twice, but three times and more for the same product over and over again?
I hate overusing the old cliches, but industry does not stick a gun in your ear and force you to buy the same thing over and over again. If you already have it, stop buying it!
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post #36 of 39
12/1/04 at 10:39am
What about Mr. Burns from the Simpsons?


Ok mabie one person does.....
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post #37 of 39
12/1/04 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Savage
What about Mr. Burns from the Simpsons?


Ok mabie one person does.....
Thank you...
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post #38 of 39
12/3/04 at 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by Nathan Palisca
I will pirate movies until the day I die. I only pay for things I can't safely steal. Whoever I get paired up with in the Chud gift exchange will likely get something I shoplifted. If that makes you uncomfortable, go scratch. But finding a digital camera or a 40G ipod in your mailbox from a total stranger might be nice. If I knew definitively that pirating movies put carpenters out of work I'd do it more often. Mostly because I hate the working class.
...yeah, damn the working class and their...contribution to society! THOSE DAMN CONFORMISTS!
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post #39 of 39
12/4/04 at 12:07am
I smell a dirty sock
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