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post #51 of 146
no scratches to be found. awesome.

now...to slipping the disc into the box and calling in sick for a week.....
post #52 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeball kid
Anyone else see this?
http://www.xboxrules.com/newscomments.php?newsid=1068

Supposedly, it does indeed work with Halo2. Watch the movie that's linked on that site (it's Halo 1).

I have very mixed feelings, leaning to the negative, about this. I loathe playing FPS games with the joypad, but this seriously unbalances the playing field on Live.
Part of the fun of playing a console is being able to sit back on the couch and play a game. Hence the reason I always love FPS and sports on console and RTS on computer. I say let them have their keyboard, I'll be more comfortable..

Plus I'll be on in about an hour...
post #53 of 146
Oh, sweet marinated Jesus. It's in my hands right now. Unfortunately I won't be able to get on Live until I can buy another 50-foot ethernet cable, which could be a week. By then I should be back in top, Jacob Singer-destroying form.
post #54 of 146
Oh My God! Live kicks the shit of of anything I have ever played on XBOX Live. And slicing someone with that sword just gives me the biggest grin.
post #55 of 146
WARNING: Slater's pretty damn good at this. And Adverb... thanks for fucking up my sniping locations.
post #56 of 146
Jumping back online shortly. Anybody with me?
post #57 of 146
So has anyone been able to do a team game yet? The only multiplayer stuff that seems to work is Slayer.
post #58 of 146
I'm In!!
post #59 of 146
If there's anything more satisfying in video-gamedom than the sword lunge, I've never known it.
post #60 of 146
great games eyeball & slater. absolute nirvana playing this game online...zero latency/bugs, hectic action once people starting popping in. next to slater's beam sword - my thumb is my worst enemy, but I fared much better compared to the ass rapings experienced in rainbow six.
post #61 of 146
Crack. Pure crack. Great games tonight, guys. I'll be online a lot tomorrow, so look for me or send me an invite.

Quick question: How do I get my level up? Do I need to play in some ranked games or something?
post #62 of 146
that was a fucking AWESOME experience guys.

I don't know who was who but I know embrodak, Carl, Slater, and Darth Choc were there for sure.

BTW, i am Booty Baron in Xbox Live world.

God...I havent had so much fun playing an online shooter EVER. This includes counter-strike. It was actually very fun playing it.

And good god the vehicle physics are just awesome. Very awesome. I don't know who it was, but someone was sitting in the gunner seat of a warthog in headlong near the underpass, and i put a frag right under it, and that thing just FLIPPED dropping the gunner out to be met by SMG fire.

I love this game.


Also, ranking only goes up in the quick or optimatches. Its bungie's way of keeping a reign over ppl who in other games just fire upon noobs all day long.

Its a bit annoying having to wait for the server to link you up with a bunch of guys based on skill and connection speed only to play random levels and gametypes, but it works fine.
post #63 of 146
these live games have been great (I'm Pennyweight). So far...

-the sword rules
-I've "boarded" slater more times then a tijuana hooker
-I die too much, but still have a blast
-eyeball, goldberg, slater, Chocula, and Maijan, kick my ass on a regular basis.
-noone touches me when I have a tank in my possesion.
post #64 of 146
Oh man that was fun. More banshee jackings tomorrow night?
post #65 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryOpenupthesky
these live games have been great (I'm Pennyweight). So far...

-I've "boarded" slater more times then a tijuana hooker
Thats gotta be the best halo 2 quote so far...

Just caught last 2 minutes of coagulation ctf, and the final team slayer match. Looks like we got a good group here, can't wait to meet up with everyone again !!!!
post #66 of 146
Came into my local Gamestop around 4pm. Place was filled as i've ever seen it. Got my limited edition and have only played a few levels. Enjoying it so far. Duel wielding was a tad tricky at first and the controls and sensitivity certainly seem different. Wonderful game.
post #67 of 146
There's a problem for me and maybe you to, and I complained about this while playing, sometimes it won't load the maps, I learned this is [apprently] due to Xboxs from 2001- early 2002 using a "thompson" disc drive or something which cannot read the disc 100%, I think in part to it being duel layered.

So what are the side effects of it?

1) In game cutscenes lag, have no music or sound.
2) The above mentioned "Map Loading Failed
3) My games frozen on me.........more times then when I played Enter the Matrix......

Phoned EB, told me to take it back and they'd replace it, go there, big line guy says they sold out of extra Halo 2's and that I have to wait till early Tuesday for another.

I am NOT going to take this, i'm phoning them first thing tommorow to tell them what my problem is cause I don't wanna hear no damn excuse about their extended warrenty [EB warrenty or not a game not working when you get home demands an exchange] Also if I go there and they tell me I could only exchange in the first # of dsays it was released stand back cause i'll kill anything and everything in my path.

It makes Xbox live play so annoying, every round hangs on the ability for the Xbox to load the level, it's an awe inspiring game and yeah I can play Xbox live in short bursts.... but god dammit Microsoft, short bursts suck when you can stay in a party/play ranking games consistently.

Quote:
- eyeball, goldberg, slater, Chocula, and Maijan, kick my ass on a regular basis.
Woooo....
post #68 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryOpenupthesky
these live games have been great (I'm Pennyweight). So far...

-the sword rules
-I've "boarded" slater more times then a tijuana hooker
-I die too much, but still have a blast
-eyeball, goldberg, slater, Chocula, and Maijan, kick my ass on a regular basis.
-noone touches me when I have a tank in my possesion.

You were getting your share of revenge though. Especially through vehicular manslaughter. Bastard!

Jesus christ, that was fun. I wish I could talk to you guys, but I'd wake up my kid. I'm biting my tongue as it is even without the headset.

Can't wait to get off of work and do it all again tonight.
post #69 of 146
I picked this up yesterday afternoon, and the thing I like the most about it is dual-fisted shooting action. The control scheme is very nice. I love the combination plasma rifle/SMG - deplete the elite shields, then finish them off with good old fashioned bullets. The new assault rifle isn't nearly as useful as the old one was though - 3 shot bursts are fine unless you're trying to bring down shields, then it's not enough firepower. The scope is nice though.
post #70 of 146
I like this game. It is a very good game. I'm kind of wondering what took 3 years, though.
post #71 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by otisthecat
Carl just set his wife and kid up to be massacred.
In the case of the wife, yes. She's newbie fodder. But the kid might very well destroy most of us.
post #72 of 146
Had a good time last night, for the little that I was able to get on. I was easy fodder for Eyeball, Slater, Mongy, etc. My Live handle is Poulsonator.

Damn it's fun.
post #73 of 146
God. I've never seen so many CHUD people on at once. Good clean fun last night.

I didn't run into any mouth breathers which kinda sucked, because if I can hear you I can kill you.

It has been six months at least since I have played Halo and I think I did pretty good.
post #74 of 146
Yeah, echoing the love for all you sweaty, sexy manbeasts. Great times last night. (And holy fuck, did I really spend sixteen of the last twenty-four hours playing the same video game? That can't be healthy. At all.)

Zanzibar CTF is going to be my new crack map. I can already tell.
post #75 of 146
I can now testify that Zanzibar is hard as all fuck when you are drunk.
post #76 of 146
My goddam stupid motherfucking country-bumpkin cocksucking internet connection has been randomly dropping for the past 18 hours - possibly due to all this Halo traffic? - and I have yet to play ONE goddam online game.

I'm home all day today, if anyone wants to play, but I can't guarantee I'll be able to stay online.

By the way, I've been very impressed with the single player experience so far, I'd say it's easily better than Halo 1. I'm trying not to finish it all too fast.
post #77 of 146
Had an AWESOME time playing last night.. I wasn't playing very well but haven't played Halo in almost a year until last night so hopefully I get better (a couple of people were really kicking ass..)

I really enjoyed the team games, especially when we get 14 some people like last night. Would love to see more CTF and such...

Don't know about ninjanaught that was hard as hell trying to figure out where that invisible bastard was..

Thanks for welcoming a newbie aboard, looking forward to many, many more games (haven't even touched single player yet). Gotta go check out my stats now..

I'm wayward 1 or Waymen (yeah that's my name..) from Akron, Ohio

Later...

Ohh, love the clan aspect. Makes it easy to find a game, and saves time from inviting everybody onto your friends list
post #78 of 146
Ninjanaut is a blast. Dreadnaut is pretty insane, where one player is super-overpowered, we need to try it with a bunch of people. I tried it in split screen and the non-dreadnaut players feel like Grunts or something. You just get slaughtered. But with more people, it might be a blast.
post #79 of 146
Yeah, I kinda fucked up on Ninjanaut when I was setting that match up. I should have made us all have swords-only. It would have ratcheded up the fear and adrenaline nicely, methinks.

Anyway, I want to try assault tonight after reading the last bit in this FAQ from another board:

Quote:
FAQs:


* NO, THERE WILL NOT BE A PC PORT
* You can have a single Live account and 3 guests all playing on the same box at once online. Guests are not allowed into ranked games, so your only choice is the Training Grounds, or to create your own arranged games.
* You can also have multiple Live accounts on one box and use those at the same time.
* The sword is not horribly overpowered. The <insert gun here> is not horribly underpowered and useless. Everything has strengths and weaknesses, yes even the magnum and needler. I played over two months of multiplayer, once you get used to things you will see them differently.
* FOR GODS SAKE, PUSH THE WHITE BUTTON TO TALK TO YOUR TEAMMATES. If you just talk, you only talk to people nearby (including enemies), just like real life. If you push the white button, you open a radio channel to your team. Push the white button once to open the channel, then start talking, and it will close by itself after you stop talking or 15 seconds.



More to come later I'm sure.


HOW TO PLAY GODDAMNED HALO 2 ONLINE

GODDAMNED MICROPHONE
Talk to your teammates. If you talk normally, only the people (friend or foe) close to you can hear you. If you push the white button, you will talk to your entire team via the radio. Just push the white button once and you hear a click, now you can talk for up to 15 seconds, and it will turn off by itself when you stop. If you are playing CTF or assault or just about anything with a mobile objective, keep your team informed when you see it.

GODDAMNED CTF
There are lots of different kinds of CTF now. 2-flag CTF is the more traditional type where each side has a flag. 1-flag CTF is a new type where one team is on offense and one is on defense. The offense has a time limit to capture the flag, the defense tries to stop them. If they capture it, they get a point. In either event, when the round ends, the two teams switch sides.

If your teams flag has been taken, you need to get it back (duh, but some people can't seem to figure that one out yet). In most gametypes, the team on offense can see where the flag is at all times, and the team on defense can see where the flag is only when it isn't being carried. Hint for defenders: If you don't know where your flag is, and it isn't marked on your screen, then the enemy has it.

When the flag is dropped, there will be a small bar beneath the on-screen indicator for the flag's location. When this bar completely empties, the flag will be returned. If the offense picks the flag up even for an instant, that timer will reset. If you are on offense, and the flag is halfway back, it could be worth getting yourself killed just to jump on the thing and pick it up for a second to reset the timer.

GODDAMNED ASSAULT
Assault is CTF in reverse. There is a bomb that must be picked up by the offense and taken into the enemies base and planted. There are different types of assault, including 1-bomb (offense/defense style), Neutral bomb (there is one bomb in the middle and either team can grab it), and 2-bomb (each side has their own bomb).

The bomb is indicated on your screen just like the flag in CTF. In this case, the offense always knows where the bomb is, and the defense usually only knows where it is when it gets dropped. When dropped, the bomb indicator has a timer beneath it just like flags in CTF do, and when it expires the bomb will return to the starting position.

The goal in assault is to take this bomb to the enemy base. The person carrying the bomb will see a navigation point showing him where to take it. When you get there, you will see a glowing circled area King-of-the-Hill style. All you need to do is stand in that circle with the bomb and watch the arming timer go up (the red bar that appears on your screen when you step into the circle). When that timer is completed, the bomb is planted and blows up. Everyone nearby will be killed, but you scored a point for the team.
post #80 of 146
Man, I miss the edit function. ratcheded=ratcheted
post #81 of 146
Note to eyeball kid: When you have active camo and you use the sword, the sword still shows.
post #82 of 146
Am I the only one that is having problems with controller sensitivity???

My settings from Halo just aren't working for me with Halo 2. Guess they changed some things around.

Oh well...other than controller fubar and a lackluster first level, the game kicks ass.
post #83 of 146
Darth see if you can return it to another store..maybe another location has one...
Definately major fun last night !!! Tommorrow's a holiday for me so I'll be on most of the day...gotta try the ninja game....
post #84 of 146
Great info Eyeball.. It helped explain Assault a lot. (I had the basics but couldn't figure out how to "arm" the bomb)

Where was that from? I would love to know a little bit more (or tips and tricks) for KOH and the other games.. I always feel like a moron playing a game I am not sure of..

Oh and I really like the new one flag CTF. The offense/defense aspect is pretty sweet..
post #85 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemini
Note to eyeball kid: When you have active camo and you use the sword, the sword still shows.
thats how he got me...I didn't know that either..son of a bitch...heh
post #86 of 146
And my favorite sight so far is seeing the flag carrier in passenger seat whisking away in a Warthog..

It just looks funny.. Like we are taking a victory lap... (gotta love Coagulation for CTF.. although Zanzibar is a very hetic map that results in lots of death...
post #87 of 146
Last night was great gaming.

For those of you who don't know, I'm Brain of JG.
post #88 of 146
Pet peeve: having to hold "X" to pick up the flag instead of grabbing it by touching it. Took me a few times running back and forth over the flag before I saw the indicator to press "X" pop up. It was difficult to see the pop-up because of...

Pet peeve number two: The cutoff problem with certain HDTV sets running in 480p. This seems to happen more often with both 4:3 and 16:9 ratio CRT HDTV's, but some people with 16:9 DLP's and LCD's are also claiming to experiance it. Basically, the left and right edges of the image are getting cut off. Dropping your Xbox back to interlaced standard resolution gets rid of the problem, but it's really not a good fix, because it looks shitty in comparison. This explains why I couldn't always tell who the new Ninjanaut was last night...I thought my TV was just messed up.

Adjusting the widescreen/letterbox/standard setting in the Xbox dashboard doesn't seem to do anything. Only dropping out of HD or manually going into the service menu of your TV and adjusting the overscan settings - something that you could easily fuck up your TV doing - seems to eliminate the issue.

Thread on the Bungie forums about this: http://bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=1015179
Screenshots showing the issue: http://pages.videotron.com/lento/X/Compare.jpg
http://pages.videotron.com/lento/X/Cut-off-480P.jpg
http://pages.videotron.com/lento/X/Cut-off-480I.jpg



The upper left image is what I get.
post #89 of 146
Yeah, I'm running on a widescreen high-def TV, and it cuts the edges off too...although not as severely as in a few of those screenshots. I was still able to read the Ninjanaut announcements, etc.

It's an annoying bug, but I'm sure Bungie is already working on the patch. If that's the worst fuck-up Halo 2 has to offer, that's fine with me.

I'm itching to try Assault mode tonight.
post #90 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler052481
Anyone else getting "cannot load map errors" when trying to get into a muliplayer game? I played all last night and just played three or four games now. All of a sudden, it won't let me on.
Yep, I had that problem too. Also, the group I was playing with, we could only figure out how to adjust settings on each individual profile with the first controller, pretty annoying.

I also found a fucking THUMB PRINT on my game disc!! Why did those assholes think it was a good idea to put the game disc on top of a dvd disc? Incompetent morons... Good game though.
post #91 of 146
The wife is absolutely tanking my stats and rankings.

Word of caution: never let your no-better half have your Xbox Live password.
post #92 of 146
I just took my lunch at Borders reading every review I could find of the game..

Just got me even more pumped up to play tonight. Very ready to play soem CTF and Assault. Although Oddball looks like a fun silly game to break up the normal game. Imagine trying to run away from 12 people without being able to fire back. Although if you found a good place to hide...

I also did find out that even when you press the white button to talk the proximity sond is still on. So if an opponed is close to you they will hear you...
post #93 of 146

Heretic

Man, I'm going to be the only one voicing any slight diappointment here. From the beginning, through all naysaying and projections of disappointment, "This game is going to be like your favorite bands Sophomore effort- it may feel weird, but it'll become your favorite." Well, I have yet to feel that.

I feel like I'm playing Unreal's version of Halo mixed with Brute Force. With it's pointlessly massive yet claustrophobic environments (nothing yet to equal the Control Room Level Canyon in 1), meet as you go enemies (whereas 1 had a more fluid feel), weird rag doll physics and, I swear it seems like, dumber enemy AI... I'm not feeling the heart beating that I did in the original.

Granted, there are some pretty spectacular set pieces and I'm guessing I'm about about half way through- so I'm holding out hope. This is just taking longer for me to embrace. But, it looks like I'm the only one. Anyone else out there picking up on any of this?
post #94 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by eyeball kid
Pet peeve: having to hold "X" to pick up the flag instead of grabbing it by touching it.
You hate that? God, I love it. You have no idea how many times I had the flag in Halo 1, encountered an enemy, dropped the flag to go to guns only to pick the flag back up when I accidentally strafe by it and die.
post #95 of 146
Quote:
Originally Posted by voiceoreason
Man, I'm going to be the only one voicing any slight diappointment here. From the beginning, through all naysaying and projections of disappointment, "This game is going to be like your favorite bands Sophomore effort- it may feel weird, but it'll become your favorite." Well, I have yet to feel that.

I feel like I'm playing Unreal's version of Halo mixed with Brute Force. With it's pointlessly massive yet claustrophobic environments (nothing yet to equal the Control Room Level Canyon in 1), meet as you go enemies (whereas 1 had a more fluid feel), weird rag doll physics and, I swear it seems like, dumber enemy AI... I'm not feeling the heart beating that I did in the original.

Granted, there are some pretty spectacular set pieces and I'm guessing I'm about about half way through- so I'm holding out hope. This is just taking longer for me to embrace. But, it looks like I'm the only one. Anyone else out there picking up on any of this?
Actually I'm not sure how many of us have invested much time in single-player yet. I played through The Heretic and the beginning of Earth so I can't comment much other than to say that I thought the original game's single-player was far from perfect anyway.. what difficulty are you playing on? I've heard Normal is somewhat easier than Normal in the original while Heroic and Legendary are harder (!) than their original counterparts. I'm on Normal and it does seem easier than the original, so maybe you should try cranking it up a notch if that's what you're on.
post #96 of 146
I don't own an x-box, and I never played the first Halo. Would you say that it is worth buying an X-box just to play Halo 2. Judging from what I've read, people seem pretty enthralled with the game. I only wonder if maybe I should just wait for the next generation consoles to jump on the x-box bandwagon. They're only a couple of years away.

What do you think?
post #97 of 146
No wonder I didn't hear anyone talking last night. I suppose when someone got close, it was death city, so not much time for words. However, when I played on some Red vs Blue teams last night, there was a lot of team chatter, mixed with "Die, Bitch, Die" type of chat.

Can't wait to get it on again tonight!
post #98 of 146
holy jesus. those were some great games...especially that last round of juggernaut. overstayed a bit - about 3-hours too long playing, or something...and still are going as I type this. but it was a blast.

dual wielding smg's is my new drug of choice.
post #99 of 146
That was a lot of fun, folks. I'll be on again later tonight after Lost.
post #100 of 146
I sorta fear them saying that they're out of LE to replace mine with, if that's so I wonder if I could get them to crack open a Normal one and just put the disc in mine cause it's really starting to freeze in campaign, and not even loading maps sometimes OFFLINE? It sucks.

Aside from complaints i'm much better than I thought i would be, I feared sucking after I played Return of to Castle Woflenstein and just gettin the crap kicked out of me.
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