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post #51 of 66
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I think I love you, HAM. One of the few people that seem to be using any kind of real-world logic in this discussion. The problem is that hardcore "fannerds" don't like to share, and they know that if the Evil Dead remake is a success, they're going to have to "share" with the mainstream. Personally I think it's great...no matter how many times I tried, my buddy would only give the Romero zombie flicks (not to mention Return Of The Living Dead and Zombie) a shot after seeing the Dawn remake. Now he loves them. I think that's awesome, but I can just see someone like Ninhead seething with anger in my situation.

Also, I noticed that Nin avoided the question about how many times he saw Army Of Darkness at the theater. I saw House Of 1,000 Corpses three times. I've seen Shaun Of The Dead three times. I put my money where my mouth is. Do you?
post #52 of 66
I don't like Army of Darkness very much. I think it got too Hollywood for my taste. I liked the independant nature of the original. Now a remake sounds interesting. It's got a shot at either being good or sucking ass but I'll be at the theatre to make that decision when the time comes. The anti-remake shit is getting real old. A remake can be great. Who here is going to go see P.J,'s version of King Kong. Every single one I'd wager. ANyway bring it on. It's not as if there's never been a horrible piece of shit horror movie like Darkness Falls made before.
post #53 of 66
excuse me for having a life outside of arguing over stupid shit on the internet, chrononaut- some people have actual things to do on holidays. i didn't avoid any question. let's see, where's my ticketstub stack?

army of darkness? 3 times in the theater- and i was 11. 2/19, 2/22, 2/24.
house of 1000 corpses? 5 times. 4/11, 4/12, 4/18, 4/20, and 5/10.
shaun of the dead? 6 times, 2 day of open (12 p.m., 12 a.m.). i imported the dvd for my region free and had it the day after it came out in england.

also, having HO1KC and shaun of the dead in this discussion is inappropriate- other than the fact that they're horror movies, they're beside the point.

as for the books hitting me, why don't you take your stupid fan-boy "books" and stick them up your ass.

oh, and happy thanksgiving.
post #54 of 66
I stopped giving a shit about remakes long ago, especially remakes of films that I have a love for.
I love Evil Dead, TCM, Dawn of the Dead, The Crazies, Assault on Precinct 13, The Warriors, and The Hills Have Eyes, but am I overly concerned about the remakes? Nope, not any more. I caved in and saw the TCM remake at a bargain theater, and I forgot it the instant I walked out of the theater; shit probably half way through the fucking movie.

Ever since then I've just decided to NOT GIVE A SHIT, and with the exception of those that want to see the new versions, maybe we should all just take that road. The new DOTD and all of these other incoming rehashes, may as well not exist to me; I'm not annoyed by them, and I'm not at all concerned.

Apathy is lovely. Attend to your lives.
post #55 of 66
Bite your tounge! JacknifeJohnny. It's one thing for Americans to have political/voter apathy, but horror apathy. That's entierly unAmerican, and you should be ashamed of yourself. Satan won't bring you anything for Halloween.
post #56 of 66
So, here's what I think.

I think when the TCM remake was announced, everybody flipped the fuck out. "How can they do this? It's a classic! blah blah blah." Yeah, I agree the original TCM is a classic - but you know what? i ENJOYED the remake. Was it as good as the original? Not at all. Nowhere close. Was it still a good little horror flick in and of itself? Absolutely. And ALOT of people (including the ones who damn near had seizures over the remake announcement) changed their minds and thought the same way I thought. Exact same thing goes for Dawn of the Dead. I LOVE the original Dawn of the Dead. One of my favorite movies period. Did I enjoy the Dawn of the Dead remake? Yep. Was it as good as the original? Nope. Nonetheless I liked it. Now I know some people are going to want to crucify me for those statements and that's ok. The point is, and we have 2 very prominent examples to prove this, when a remake is announced people have a cow. They freak out and they act like it's blasphemy. When that remake is released however, they go see it, and holy shit, they actually enjoyed it. It's a horror movie people. Are we not "Horror Fans?" I knwo I am, and as a "Horror Fan" I am a fan of all things horror. ALLTHINGS. I proudly own the TCM remake and it sits next to my TCM original on the shelf. Same with Dawn of the Dead. I hear thet they're remaking Evil Dead and I say "Sweet, more Evil Dead." And you guys are acting like Sam and Bruce aren't involved in the project AT ALL. They're both very involved and Raimi is even the guy helping find the new Ash. Wasn't he the guy who had the foresight to cast Bruce in the first place? I mean come on people, we act like just because we love a movie that we have some sort of ownership over it. Nobody knows the Evil Dead Series better than Sam Raimi. Not you, not me, not anyone else. That whole fucked up world came out of his head, and if HE says he wants to remake it then I trust him. I'm really curious to see the reactions of you guys when the ovie actually hits - I'll bet that 99.9% will say something like "Wow, I liked it after all," and the other .1% will be saying the same thing they just won't admit it. So calm down people, the future of one of our most beloved franchises is in good hands. It'll be okay.
post #57 of 66
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Originally Posted by Writhing Walt
Bite your tounge! JacknifeJohnny. It's one thing for Americans to have political/voter apathy, but horror apathy. That's entierly unAmerican, and you should be ashamed of yourself. Satan won't bring you anything for Halloween.
I refuse to get an ulcer over remakes that I don't have to see, and me and Satan are in like Flint, I have him tattoed on my forearm.
post #58 of 66
Wow, a bit touchy on both sides of this discussion. Who'd a thunk it? I do have a couple things to say about this issue though:

I'm against this rash of remakes. All the remakes discussed here were exploiting the original rather than adding anything to them. That said, I enjoyed the remake of Dawn of the Dead. It was a good little action movie. I thought it had a decent sense of humanity and fair writing. It's still not a butt hair compared to the original Dawn of the Dead, but it wasn't bad. Texas Chainsaw Massacre on the other hand, was trash. Pure garbage. Leatherface has a skin condition? Gimme a break. They're coming back from Mexico with some weed on their way to a Lynyrd Skynyrd concert. Pardon me........


(gratuitous barfing noises)


..............ah, much better. The thing that was so killer about the Original Texas Chainsaw Massacre was that it was PLAUSIBLE. The Hardestys were there to check if their grandpa's grave had been vandalized in the rash of grave robberies in the area. They went up to the TCM family's house because Franklin remembered an old swimming hole up that way. Then there's the semi-documentary style which makes it so much more intense. Name for me one other film that makes you cringe so much when you see so little. I can't think of many.
What did the Texas Chainsaw remake offer to the original? Oh, let's see......there was the preachy antidrug message, there was Jennifer Beal's one note performance, there was a silly attempt to 'Hollywoodize' the story with all the blue lighting and generic pretty boy (and girl) actors, and of course there was the completely pointless riff on the hitchhiker. You could almost hear the film makers congratulating themselves for not just repeating the menacing hitchhiker, instead choosing a completely meaningless attempt at 'creepy' with some suicidal bim blowing her brains out in the back seat. Michael "oh gosh, there's too much violence in films these days" and pretty much anything he touches is an affront to good moviemaking. Just watch the original and all the creepy things that are thrown in (like the old drunk guy laying around saying "I sees things, there's those that laughs saying it's just a drunk old man. There's those that laughs that knows better." There's an entire atmosphere to the original that makes it special. There is absolutely nothing about the remake that makes it special, nothing at all.
I do have a bit to say about Evil Dead and the thought of remaking it: I don't see how anyone could hold a candle to the original, but it's not like it's hallowed ground. Don't get me wrong, it's a classic that I've been watching and loving for 20 years, but I'm not going to picket if they decide to remake it. I might even see it........rented.
I have some more things to say in response to certain statements made in this discussion: 1.) Bruce Campbell was more than just 'cast' in the role of Ash by Sam Raimi, he was a partner in the production, as is clear from Campbell's autobiography and numerous interviews. Also, "Raimi created that world"!?!??!?!, for crying out loud Chrononaut. A book called Necronomicon ex Mortis which contains passages that can bring ancient evils back into the living world? Raimi added ex Mortis to the name and placed the origin as Sumeria, otherwise, that "world" was created in the 1920's and 30's by H.P. Lovecraft. This is not a new revelation and Raimi, nor Campbell have ever tried to deny it.
For every one of these unnecessary remakes, there are 50 really talented writers and directors out there with new ideas that aren't having a chance to do their thing. Read some Michael Marshall Smith or Christa Faust, then realize these guys are ekeing it out with a group of other supremely talented writers who aren't millionaires by a longshot. It kind of makes you mad at the formulaic sonsabitches that are raking in the dough by doing crappy, derivative work. It makes me mad at least, the same way seeing another great horror film stripped for parts by jackasses who don't have an idea of their own makes me mad.
post #59 of 66
This is a completle load of horseshit. Evil Dead was already redone as Evil Dead 2, as we all know. It can't be done better and no one but Bruce Campbell can play Ash. In the mind of the horror movie fan it's like remaking Casablanca and bringing in some one else to replace Humphrey Bogart, except maybe even worse. It's a bad idea and completely pointless. I hate it. Most of the universe hates it. Please don't do it.

That said...........

Being a major Buffy geek, I LOVE the idea of Nicholas Brendan playing Ash and if anyone was made for the role besides Campbell, it's him. Yes, I hate myself for feeling that way, but I do. Still, I'd rather see Nic playing him in a new movie than wasting time on a remake.

Thank you for my middle of the road moment. You don't get a lot of them around here.
post #60 of 66
I absolutely will NOT see this. It ticks me off they can't use any original ideas and gorge on the remake madness. What a bunch of BS.....
post #61 of 66
Has ANY of this so-called "news" been confirmed directly by either Sam Raimi or Bruce Campbell yet?

One would think that if it were true that we would have an official statement by now. Something tells me that Variety caught wind of Raimi's interest in another Evil Dead movie and interest in picking up another property for Ghost House to remake, and got the two confused together. Raimi himself said that a Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash could be a future possibility, just not yet because HE wasn't FINISHED telling his OWN story with the character yet. Who knows.
post #62 of 66
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Has ANY of this so-called "news" been confirmed directly by either Sam Raimi or Bruce Campbell yet?

One would think that if it were true that we would have an official statement by now. Something tells me that Variety caught wind of Raimi's interest in another Evil Dead movie and interest in picking up another property for Ghost House to remake, and got the two confused together. Raimi himself said that a Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash could be a future possibility, just not yet because HE wasn't FINISHED telling his OWN story with the character yet. Who knows.

Actually... raimi did indeed confirm it, as he, Bruce Campbell and Robert Tapert are producing.
post #63 of 66
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Actually... raimi did indeed confirm it, as he, Bruce Campbell and Robert Tapert are producing.
Now are you referring to the segment from Zap2It or something else. It's been my experience in the past that Zap2It is not the most reliable news site in the world, and tend to leave things out or post things out of context in their articles. I just find it odd in their interview that Raimi states that he wants to do both Evil Dead IV AND a remake.
post #64 of 66
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he may sweat that he's at an age where he never will. But as far as a self-described "working actor" goes - he's done better than many. And he'll segue into a character actor glory - or pehaps direct, as he's proven capable of doing on television...
I still have hope one day a director will take fans up on the "CAST BRUCE CAMPBELL AS ___________"
and Campbell will bring his A game.

Quinten Tarantino should use Bruce Campbell, he has away of [re]launching actors.........
post #65 of 66
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Originally Posted by Darth_Chocula
I still have hope one day a director will take fans up on the "CAST BRUCE CAMPBELL AS ___________"
and Campbell will bring his A game.

Quinten Tarantino should use Bruce Campbell, he has away of [re]launching actors.........
Not only that, but he would certainly suite a Tarantinoesque film.

I don't see why they should make a remake, but who cares. I'll be there watching it when it comes out. Hopefully it's good.
post #66 of 66
I'm still confused by the fact that Raimi wants to do Evil Dead IV AND a remake.

Of course it means we'll just get the remake. Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson are always saying they want to go back and do another low-budget horror flick (ED4 in Raimi's case/Another zombie film in Jackson's), and they do mean well when they say it, but deep down all of us horror fans really know that it will never happen. They say "after this next big budget film, i'm going to do it, i promise!" but then some dream project or something else interesting is tossed in front of them and they get distracted.

Raimi's Plate: Spider-Man 3 (with, of course, the possibility of more Spidey sequels beyond that) & Evil Dead IV.

Jackson's: King Kong, The Lovely Bones, The Hobbit, an Untitled WW1 Movie, and a low-budget zombie flick.


Of course they could always pull a Romero and finally make their little film 10 or more years from now. Who knows. One can still hope though. I'll definately give an Evil Dead remake a shot, providing the Cast/Crew isn't full of talentless morons.
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