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ok, once and for all, help me, how does bush=good?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
im not trying to be a smartass, but no one ive talked to has ever given me a good reason why bush is a good president at all. name one good thing hes done? who has he helped, besides the disgustingly rich? please...help me so my head doesnt explode over thinking about how 59 million people are idiots
post #2 of 23
http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73892

Another thread like this. There are many in this section with the "thought" you stated. I guess you can add yourself to the 59 million people who are idiots.
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
im not ranting and raving, and trying to be a smartass. i really just dont see anything good. i honostly am looking for why anyone would support this guy? i meen, i read alot, but its alot of liberal stuff, so im wondering, and i not being told something? you dont have to be a prick, because the thread you posted to is not like this. i am not ranting and raving, i am asking a simple, honost question. why would anyone think bush is doing a good job. what has he done that i have missed, because there has to be something. what memo did 59 million people see that i didnt?
post #4 of 23
Let me get this straight. You think the 59+ million who voted for Bush are idiots and you want one of them to tell you why? Don't you see the problem in calling the people idiots and then asking for their opinoins?
post #5 of 23
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Originally Posted by RoCKurSoKsoFF
im not ranting and raving, and trying to be a smartass. i really just dont see anything good. i honostly am looking for why anyone would support this guy? i meen, i read alot, but its alot of liberal stuff, so im wondering, and i not being told something? you dont have to be a prick, because the thread you posted to is not like this. i am not ranting and raving, i am asking a simple, honost question. why would anyone think bush is doing a good job. what has he done that i have missed, because there has to be something. what memo did 59 million people see that i didnt?
If you're going to call people idiots, how about learning how to write in English. I hope you're going to tell me it's not your first language.
post #6 of 23
I didn't vote for Bush, but the fact remains that Kerry just wasn't a good candidate. It has a lot less to do with Bush being good than it does people preferring him over the alternative. That's not to say that's the case for every Bush voter, as I'm certain it's not, but that is the reason he won.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by Anyawatchin Angel
http://chud.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73892

Another thread like this. There are many in this section with the "thought" you stated. I guess you can add yourself to the 59 million people who are idiots.
Again displaying your non-ability to read, or at least understand... *sigh*
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by The Farce
Again displaying your non-ability to read, or at least understand... *sigh*
Another thread rehashing stuff that has been brough up dozens of times in other threads. How many times does the same thing have to be brought up?
post #9 of 23
In neither this thread nor the other one does anyone answer Rokusosksoff's question.
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by JuddL
I didn't vote for Bush, but the fact remains that Kerry just wasn't a good candidate.
Crap Judd don't be so frank and honest .
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by The Prankster
In neither this thread nor the other one does anyone answer Rokusosksoff's question.
That's cause there's isn't an answer.
post #12 of 23
I read an article in The Times a couple of days ago about the attitudes of Americans toward both candidates.

The general consensus seemed to be that despite the fact that both come from ludicrously privileged backgrounds and have lifestyles three stratospheres above the average Joe, Americans prefer Bush over Kerry because he’s more like them.

Do they have a point?
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by AgentOrange
I read an article in The Times a couple of days ago about the attitudes of Americans toward both candidates.

The general consensus seemed to be that despite the fact that both come from ludicrously privileged backgrounds and have lifestyles three stratospheres above the average Joe, Americans prefer Bush over Kerry because he’s more like them.

Do they have a point?
I wouldn't want someone like me leading a country. But I want someone like Bush leading one even less. Leaders should be great men, not average joes.
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by RoCKurSoKsoFF
im not trying to be a smartass, but no one ive talked to has ever given me a good reason why bush is a good president at all. name one good thing hes done? who has he helped, besides the disgustingly rich? please...help me so my head doesnt explode over thinking about how 59 million people are idiots
Being a liberal, I'm biased. Being a Canadian, I'm even more biased. The only reasons I can see for non-rich people voting Bush is that they like his gung ho no one stands before america attitude towards other nations, and the previously mentions "average joe" air he has about him. Both really bad reasons to vote for the guy.
post #15 of 23
I'd rather have Bullwinkle fucking J. Moose leading America than Bush.

I love that they still can't answer the question, though.
post #16 of 23
Good stuff Bush has done (this is coming from someone who doesn't like Bush)

- reaction to 9/11, I think Bush did a good job after 9/11 (and don't give me the 7 minutes crap as if he could of averted disaster if he wasn't in the classroom). He waited until the information was clear on who attacked and then a month later he attacked back. No rush as if the world would end if he didn't strike as soon as possible.

- getting rid of Saddam, I'm glad hes gone, not if only the president were smart enought to have a plan that wouldn't allow a man worst then Saddam to gain control in about 10 years.

- taxes, personally I'm against what he did here, but alot of american think Bush did the right thing here.

- Stance on abortion and gay marriage, once again I disagree but people against this would cite this as a reason Bush is good.

There, that the basics on why people are pro Bush.
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by DerekT
- reaction to 9/11, I think Bush did a good job after 9/11 (and don't give me the 7 minutes crap as if he could of averted disaster if he wasn't in the classroom). He waited until the information was clear on who attacked and then a month later he attacked back.
Well his initial reaction to 9/11 was to hide, but as for the war in Afghanistan....Attacked? Yes. Succeeded? No. But that doesn't really matter to the average American out there, who very possibly doesn't even know the different between Iraq and Afghanistan, al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein...

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- getting rid of Saddam, I'm glad hes gone, not if only the president were smart enought to have a plan that wouldn't allow a man worst then Saddam to gain control in about 10 years.
The idea of getting rid of an a dictator like Saddam sounds good, but then you look back and you see that the US were allies with him even while he murdered his political opposition and "gased his own people", some of his US allies even encouraged him to invade Kuat. SO pretty much this whole "Iraqi Freedom" thing, it's a crock of shit. But you try telling that to any die-hard Bushies and they'll feed you this "Iraq was the lesser of two evils" and it was a necessary alliance at the time yaddayadda...

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- taxes, personally I'm against what he did here, but alot of american think Bush did the right thing here.
Funny thing is that his tax cuts pretty much only benifited the rich, but the two richest men in the world (Bill Gates and some other dude who I can't remember) who probably benifited the most from the cuts are against them, are against Bush, and the only people that really seem to be for them are people who havn't directly benifited from the cuts at all, people who have seen the studies showing that Bush's tax cuts are going to further expand our deficit and they just don't care.
post #18 of 23
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Originally Posted by The Farce
The idea of getting rid of an a dictator like Saddam sounds good, but then you look back and you see that the US were allies with him even while he murdered his political opposition and "gased his own people", some of his US allies even encouraged him to invade Kuat. SO pretty much this whole "Iraqi Freedom" thing, it's a crock of shit. But you try telling that to any die-hard Bushies and they'll feed you this "Iraq was the lesser of two evils" and it was a necessary alliance at the time yaddayadda...
You can't be an "ally" to someone whilst you are giving rockets to his enemy.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by DerekT
Good stuff Bush has done (this is coming from someone who doesn't like Bush)

- reaction to 9/11, I think Bush did a good job after 9/11
You would have had to have been the biggest moron to ever walk upright to have screwed up the reactions to 9/11. I swear, people act like Gore would have clicked his heels and danced a jig at Ground Zero, and it baffles me that somehow Bush gets credit for being a fucking human being and showing sorrow at the event.
post #20 of 23

oh, those tax "cuts"

Ya' know, taxes suck, but they exist for a reason...infrastructure, education, defense, and yes, some social services as well. I don't know how it is in every state, but the $300 I "saved" under the Bush tax plan does not even BEGIN to make up for the rise in tuition (21% in the last 2 years), property taxes (even if you rent), school taxes, and sales taxes, that all keep going steadily up. The reason these other taxes keep going up is in large part to do with the loss of federal dollars due to Bush's income tax "relief" plan. So, for all you neocons out there, ask yourselves: just haw much is Bush really saving you?

And to answer the original question, I must say that I have no idea what Bush (& company) have done in the last 4 years that would possibly give people a reason to want them to remain in power...I've been wondering that myself.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by The Farce
Funny thing is that his tax cuts pretty much only benifited the rich, but the two richest men in the world (Bill Gates and some other dude who I can't remember) who probably benifited the most from the cuts are against them, are against Bush, and the only people that really seem to be for them are people who havn't directly benifited from the cuts at all, people who have seen the studies showing that Bush's tax cuts are going to further expand our deficit and they just don't care.


If Gates didn't like Bush, he wouldn't have given him the max allowable campaign contribution, while not giving a dime to Kerry.

Political contributions from Microsoft employees
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by Gio Angles
If Gates didn't like Bush, he wouldn't have given him the max allowable campaign contribution, while not giving a dime to Kerry.

Political contributions from Microsoft employees
Interesting that whilst Gates might prefer Bush, it seems his employees do not.
post #23 of 23
Sorry, Bush's stance on abortion doesn't count. I'm sure a lot of people based their vote on it, but he has always avoided the issue, and been very careful to avoid having a "stance" on it.
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