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post #1 of 149
11/23/04 at 3:06pm
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Release Date: 12/09/2005


Starring:
Tilda Swinton, James McAvoy, Rupert Everett, Georgie Henley, William Moseley, Skandar Keynes, Anna Popplewell, Dawn French, Jim Broadbent

Directed By:
Andrew Adamson

Production Company:
Walden Media

Distribution Company:
Walt Disney Pictures

Special Effects Company:
Rhythm & Hues

(From: IGN)
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post #2 of 149
11/23/04 at 3:17pm
I can´t wait to see this film. I was a big fan of the books when I was a kid. I´m a little skeptical though. The book is difficult to adapt. Reminds me of how I felt in 1999 when I was waiting for the Lord of the Rings. But the director is no Peter Jackson.
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post #3 of 149
11/24/04 at 6:13pm
It's interesting that I haven't heard anything about this film yet. Does anyone know any details?
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post #4 of 149
11/24/04 at 7:57pm
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post #5 of 149
11/25/04 at 12:50pm
Im really looking forward to this, i was given the first two book for xmas last year and i loved them. Yes they are overly simplysitc and yes they have some heavy religous tones but they are beautfully written and really draw you in. Plus they already have a bit of a "cinematic" feel to them so i think this could be a winner.
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post #6 of 149
11/25/04 at 4:15pm
I am also looking forward to this. As a kid, I loved hearing my parents read me these books, and just thinking about them brings back a flood of memories. Just a couple of questions - does anyone know who James McAvoy will be playing in the film?
Also, it might just be my imagination, but when I was younger I thought I remember seeing something like a tv special or a miniseries about the Narnia books. Does anybody else remember something like that or am I just making it up?
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post #7 of 149
11/25/04 at 4:18pm
There was a BBC miniseries in the late 80s.
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post #8 of 149
11/25/04 at 8:17pm
While I'd like to remain optimistic about this, the fact that the guy who made the Shrek movies is directing, coupled with the rumor of Evanescence doing the soundtrack, doesn't help much. Then again, I really doubted that the director of Dead Alive could pull off LOTR.
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post #9 of 149
11/25/04 at 11:56pm
Haven't heard about this til just now. I've always wondered how the BBC mini-series was but since they stopped in the middle of the series I never bothered to watch them. I love these books. I've read them many times since plowing through them a first time at age 9. I think they can easily be adapted to great effect in this day and age. After what P.J. did with TLotR I feel anything is possible. Then again it could turn into another childhood favorite of mine, Battlefield Earth, and be a horrible adaptation. Not sure about the director but then I doubted P.J. as well and he showed me up. This just vaulted to my most anticipated film.
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post #10 of 149
11/26/04 at 5:40am

I can't remember what happens in them

There are 8 books right? I think I made it to Prince Caspian when I was a kid and got a little bored of them. Does somebody remember the overall plot of the entire series?
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post #11 of 149
11/26/04 at 8:01am
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Originally Posted by Floydian_Trip
Haven't heard about this til just now. I've always wondered how the BBC mini-series was but since they stopped in the middle of the series I never bothered to watch them. I love these books. I've read them many times since plowing through them a first time at age 9. I think they can easily be adapted to great effect in this day and age. After what P.J. did with TLotR I feel anything is possible. Then again it could turn into another childhood favorite of mine, Battlefield Earth, and be a horrible adaptation. Not sure about the director but then I doubted P.J. as well and he showed me up. This just vaulted to my most anticipated film.
they did 4 of the 7

The Magician's Nephew x
The Lion the With and the Wardrobe y
The Horse and his boy x
Prince Caspian y
The Voyage of the Dawn Tredor y
The Silver Chair y
The Last Battle x

So you could say that they only got half way through or you could say that they made it most of the way through the cinematic books.
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post #12 of 149
11/27/04 at 12:05am
Those are the logical ones to do. Magician's Nephew and A Horse and His Boy feature different characters for the most part. And the Last Battle is one of the most unintentionally depressing and nasty endings to a series of kid's books ever.
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post #13 of 149
11/29/04 at 2:42pm
No. The end of THE LAST BATTLE is one of the greatest things, ever. I was literally weeping with joy at the beauty of it all. If you want me to explain further, we should probably start a spoiler thread somewhere.
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post #14 of 149
12/31/04 at 8:40am
WETA strikes again... making geeks everywhere wish they lived in another world. I am beginning to see Richard Taylor & Co. as the key to fantasy epics. If or when The Hobbit gets under way, I'd be perfectly ok with it being P.J.-less as long as WETA was doing the effects.
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post #15 of 149
1/5/05 at 10:43pm
The Narnia series were childhood favs of mine, and while of course I'm interested in the film version, I'm not convinced of Andrew Adamson yet. There's a world of difference between making 2 snarky, self-referencial CG movies and a very UN-self-referencial, un-self-conscious children's adventure fantasy. Technically, obviously the films are in good hands.... but there is no HEAVENLY CREATURES in Adamson's quiver (nor the screen-writers') to convince me. I remain sceptical.
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post #16 of 149
1/7/05 at 3:10am
if anyone is interested...

apple.com has a behind the scenes look at WETA's work on the SFX...looks pretty damn impressive.
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post #17 of 149
1/7/05 at 4:28pm
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Originally Posted by GimelMartinez


Release Date: 12/09/2005


Starring:
Tilda Swinton, James McAvoy, Rupert Everett, Georgie Henley, William Moseley, Skandar Keynes, Anna Popplewell, Dawn French, Jim Broadbent

Directed By:
Andrew Adamson

Production Company:
Walden Media

Distribution Company:
Walt Disney Pictures

Special Effects Company:
Rhythm & Hues

(From: IGN)

I almost don't know anything about the Narnia seris But The Lion, witch and the wadrobe is not the 1st in the series. Am I correct?
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post #18 of 149
1/7/05 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by anyname
I almost don't know anything about the Narnia seris But The Lion, witch and the wadrobe is not the 1st in the series. Am I correct?
yes, it is...that's all you need to know, really...the series is kinda wacky...

The rest of the books are "eh"

I like the Witch's pad though. There's so many people just...hanging around.
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post #19 of 149
1/7/05 at 8:58pm
I thought a book called The Magicians Nephew was first in the series?
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post #20 of 149
1/7/05 at 10:12pm
The Magician's Nephew, chronologically, is the first book, but this series was not meant to be read chronlogically. Lewis started the series with Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe, and Magician's Nephew was actually the 6th book. The current publisher, however, is a giant collection of fucking morons and decided to rearrange the series chronoglically, because they thought kids would be too dumb to figure them out. As a result, a lot of things become reduent or confusing (the revelation as to where the lamp post came from is ruined if you read Magician's Nephew first, as is many other events in Horse and his Boy and The Silver Chair).

The series should be read in this order:

The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe
Prince Caspian
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Horse and His Boy
The Silver Chair
The Magician's Nephew
The Last Battle

Props to Disney for going with Lewis' intended order, not the bastardized rearranging.
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post #21 of 149
1/7/05 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by g-dude

Props to Disney for going with Lewis' intended order, not the bastardized rearranging.
Way to go, g-dude!
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post #22 of 149
1/11/05 at 8:27pm
I hear that....about going in the right order. Im just lookin forward to seeing something released in the near future media-wise. Im foaming at the mouth just to get a peak at a teaser!! any word on that in the near future?
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post #23 of 149
1/12/05 at 5:42am
As long as the films dont become known as "Walt Disney's The Chronicals of Narnia" i will be a happy man.
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post #24 of 149
1/12/05 at 6:01am
The Magician's Nephew is, dare I say, the "prequel" to the series.
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post #25 of 149
1/14/05 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Savage
As long as the films dont become known as "Walt Disney's The Chronicals of Narnia" i will be a happy man.
thats not the feeling I get at all. This def has a "true" magic feel to it. i watched that featurette on the special effects on imovies this morning and was pretty impressed. made me a lot more excited. sweeeeet.
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post #26 of 149
1/20/05 at 1:40pm
The ending to the Last Battle really changed how I look at life. I think it was a terrific ending. I've read a lot of Lewis (and his hero, George Macdonald), and "Further up, further in" seems to be the thing that has stayed with me at the deepest levels.
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post #27 of 149
4/18/05 at 4:00am
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Originally Posted by g-dude

The series should be read in this order:

The Lion, the Witch & the Wardrobe
Prince Caspian
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Horse and His Boy
The Silver Chair
The Magician's Nephew
The Last Battle

Props to Disney for going with Lewis' intended order, not the bastardized rearranging.
The Silver Chair is the 4th, The Horse and His Boy is the 5th^

The best way to look at the ordering of the books is that you have 1)TLTW&TW, 2)Prince Caspian, 3)Dawn Treader, and 4)Silver Chair in chronological order, involving the same/related group of characters... and then the last 3 books are kind of separate entities.

And definitely props for releasing them in the proper order. TLTW&TW is probably the simplest flowing story of the lot, by far the best introduction.

I worry for Prince Caspian though, once you narrow down the book to what physically actually takes place, you're left with a very short story that really doesn't take you on much of a journey. The BBC series was only able to make 2 x 1/2 hour shows out of it (IRC), and they didn't really leave a whole lot out. Even if they are able to creatively lengthen the story, it's still (by far, imo) the weakest book of the 7.
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post #28 of 149
4/20/05 at 3:29pm
http://chud.com/news/2552

The official site is up and it's pretty cool.

See that was a joke based on the White Wi...

oh nevermind.
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post #29 of 149
4/22/05 at 1:09pm
Yeah I checked out narnia.com the other day, definitely a very nice looking website. I'm a huge fan of the Narnia books, and hughj, Prince Caspian was actually my favorite of all the books, I think it will translate quite well to a movie, but of course I'm psyched for LTWTW for now.
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post #30 of 149
4/28/05 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by AJ Blood
No. The end of THE LAST BATTLE is one of the greatest things, ever. I was literally weeping with joy at the beauty of it all. If you want me to explain further, we should probably start a spoiler thread somewhere.

Please do so or at least PM me so that i can get the full details.
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post #31 of 149
4/28/05 at 11:45am
The only thing I'm concerned about right now is the look of the White Witch. In the books, the way that Lewis seems to describe her in both The Lion, The Witch... and The Magician's Nephew is extremely beautiful, a dangerous, sexual beauty that sort of invades innocence. In the horrid BBC production they made the Witch look like a monster, incredibly pedestrian and obvious. That is most definitely not the way to go.

Tilda Swinton... hmmm... she has a sort of strange beauty, but I hope they really turn up the wattage on her. She certainly looks very European. I would have preferred someone a little more exotic, almost Asian or Indian looking, pitch black hair and dark eyes, to drive home the feeling of a "forbidden fruit" quality about her. At the least Tilda better not be blonde in this. From some of the sketches and designs, they may have gotten this right, but I need to see a shot of her in costume to be put to ease.
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post #32 of 149
4/29/05 at 8:53pm
The bootlegged trailer (Shaky-Cam...sorry)

Even though it was taken directly from a camcorder, I have to say that this movie definitely ooks nice.
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post #33 of 149
5/2/05 at 5:10pm
Consider my earlier post a fanboy outburst. this article has a picture of the White Witch and I consider my fears to be slightly diminished. Though I would have still preferred something more exotic. Tilda's looking pretty good.
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post #34 of 149
5/3/05 at 5:21pm
Yeah I saw that picture and the other two in the issue of Newsweek that came out today. I thought that picture was alright, the picture of the White Witch that was in this mornings USA Today was fantastic, it will put you even more at ease in terms of concerns about how she looks.
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post #35 of 149
5/4/05 at 11:29am
The more I think about it, the more I see a controversy if they had gone in my direction anyway. A more Indian or Asian looking White Witch may have well brought all kinds of protests from minority groups claiming that they are being shown as evil or something like that, especially with the Christian slant of the other metaphors in the story. That would not be my intention with those choices, but I can see where the controversy would come from. Tilda is a safe choice, but it's unfortunate that it has to be that way.
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post #36 of 149
5/4/05 at 6:25pm
Wasn't C.S Lewis an athiest though?
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post #37 of 149
5/4/05 at 6:47pm
Shaky Cam Bootleg trailer is no longer available.
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post #38 of 149
5/4/05 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by SPEEDRAZOR
Wasn't C.S Lewis an athiest though?
Hmm, my online sarcasm detector readings are inconclusive, so just to be safe....No. Very No.
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post #39 of 149
5/8/05 at 11:40am
The first trailer with an intro from director Andrew Adamson is now available for viewage, courtesy of Moviefone:

http://movies.channel.aol.com/franch...f_narnia_movie
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post #40 of 149
5/8/05 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by SPEEDRAZOR
Wasn't C.S Lewis an athiest though?
He was until his friend J.R.R. Tolkien converted him back to Catholicism.
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post #41 of 149
5/9/05 at 10:15am
I don't think C.S. Lewis became catholic. J.R.R. Tolkien was a devout catholic, to be sure. But what he did for Lewis was to bring him to a belief of God, not necessarily bend him toward Catholicism. I believe that Lewis was a Protestant.

EDIT: I watched that trailer yesterday, and nearly teared up. I didn't even have that reaction with the LOTR trailers.
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post #42 of 149
5/10/05 at 6:11pm
Well it was about damn time! It was great to finally, finally, after years of being a Narnia fan, get to see the first trailer in a non-shaky cam bootleg fashion. Everything in the trailer looks pretty good, from Aslan to the kids to the white witch. This definitely teased many different characters and aspects of the film, so that was really cool. Looking forward to seeing what the next trailer looks like.
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post #43 of 149
5/11/05 at 8:50pm
Battle scenes looked a bit like the grade-school version of LOTR ... and could that field get any greener without shading psychelic? CGI Aslan doesn't really work, either.

Other than that, looks a bit generic.
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post #44 of 149
5/11/05 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by Jubei
The only thing I'm concerned about right now is the look of the White Witch.
I quite agree. The trailer looks wonderful (though admittedly I may be biased because I really want to love this movie), but she looks...washed out. I always thought she should look like Snow White, only older and crueler. So perhaps I am merely disappointed that she looks different than I imagined. But whatever the reason, I am not pleased. I hope that in a longer trailer (and, of course, the actual movie) her blondness is less distracting.
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post #45 of 149
5/11/05 at 11:23pm
Great teaser and I really like the direction they are going with their designs and colors (high saturation for Narnia... mmmm).

For some reason, the glimpse of the huge polar bears pulling the W. Witch's chariot really got me stoked.
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post #46 of 149
5/12/05 at 5:30pm
Personally, that was probably my favorite shot in the whole trailer, seeing the White Witch being pulled on the chariot by the bears was awesome. I also loved the shot of the White Witchs wolves (did they have names? I forget). I agree that the battle scenes looked awfully bright, but if they're fighting in the middle of the day, what else would it look like?
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post #47 of 149
5/12/05 at 5:45pm
That really worked for me.
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post #48 of 149
5/12/05 at 5:56pm
I dunno... it probably would have seemed less underwhelming if LOTR hadn't been seen already.
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post #49 of 149
6/2/05 at 4:59pm
What kind of reactions to the trailer have people been seeing when they go to see Star Wars? I know when I saw it a few days ago, people were loving all the good trailers, but Narnia got a huge round of applause, definitely the best reaction of all the movies, including Batman and WOTW. Made me think that this movie could be even bigger than I originally thought.
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post #50 of 149
6/23/05 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by Holy Diver
Should be interesting to see how they do the film version of the final book. Where it's revealed that all the kids had been killed in a train accident, and the whole Narnia thing was just to ease them into Heaven.

Aslan is Jesus. Narnia was bullshit. The end.
Hrmm.. Narnia was bullshit? Narnia was just to ease them into Heaven? I think you need to reread the last book Narnia was no more "bullshit" than the England they grew up in, and the world we live in today. The whole idea of the "shadowlands" was that heaven was just a *more real* version of the world we live in - brighter, more beautiful, happier, etc.
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