America apologies for Bush and World accepts apology - Page 3

What the fuck are you talking about? I was never in the military. Doesn't mean I don't recognize bullshit when I smell it.

Just wanted to make sure BobClark was able to access the thread he requested, so, quick bump.

Oh, thanks for proving my point.

Can you point out where I spewed forth a grandiose story of my glorious service? Or, "bullshit" as you say.

If you are going to blatantly accuse someone of something HAVE GOD DAMN PROOF THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.

Since you have NONE. And since I, in fact, HAVE laid out the details previously, AS I STATED I HAD, then I would suggest that you climb your civilian ass off of your pretentious pedestal for a while.

Since you were to GOD DAMN SMUG AND LAZY TO DO IT YOURSELF I even helped you out and gave you the link. With all details laid out nicely.

Now, throw whatever you want at my thought process, political beliefs, writing ability, etc... but NEVER DISPARAGE MY MILITARY SERVICE AGAIN YOU LAZY BASTARD.

Faker.

Thanks Kitty!

Awww, that's so sweet! Dale has a heart after all, he joined up to give something back...to help all the little people!

Or you'll do what?

"STOP!!! or.............I'll say stop AGAIN!!!"

Or I'll get the holy hand grenade and count past 2!



Just pisses me off when people who have never served just throw around blanket shit about those that have. Talking out of school, if you will.

No big deal.

You don't have to have buggered a kid up the ass yourself to know that pedophiles are despicable creatures.

Same principle.

So, those that served are despicable creatures?

Because I earned it by being disabled while in the service of my country, through no fault of my own. (and it's not a princely sum, by any means. Less than any reasonable car payment, to be sure) I also have other job skills. I have a job and have since I was 13. I provide for my family without the disability check and continue to better my self, and my job prospects every year through further education.

That is vastly different than simply not having a job, nor any desire to acquire one, and just sitting on my ass collecting a check, while in govenment housing, encouraging my 15 year old daughter to have another baby because then we could get HBO with the extra money.

(yes, before you seriously flip, I was present to witness that very conversation, so it DOES happen)

I was witness to a conversation about fucking dead babies in the soft spots of their skulls. Now that may happen in some hidden corner of the world, but that doesn't make it the norm. Personal experience IS NOT valid statistical data.

Of course you actually heard that...that's why although you've posted here for so long and mentioned the horrors of Welfare in countless threads, this is the first we'd heard of it. Because we all know how much time you spend with welfare mothers.

You're so full of shit it's oozing through the data lines.

I worked for 2 years as a pest control tech in the projects of Orlando. Now, about being full of shit?

Yes, you are full of shit.

I said same principle.

Just pisses me off when people who have never served just throw around blanket shit about those that have. Talking out of school, if you will.


That's just a riff on the most bullshit argument around, "civilians shouldn't criticize soldiers and what they do because they don't know what it's like to serve". What a load of self-serving crap. You don't have to ever serve yourself to know it's an indoctrination exercise in stupidity anymore than you have to kill someone to know that it's bad.

Spoken like a true open minded, objective civilian.

Thank you for your $.02. I'll get your change.

So, it never occured to you that I hold the opinions that I do because I saw it, every day, 5 days a week, for over 2 years.

Odd. I would seem that perhaps, just maybe, one would have asked if they were really curious as to where the attitude came from.

Instead, it's about 3 - 7 threads immediatly hurling shit at me, and then moving on about the topic. So, I guess this little tidbit of fact seems to have slipped through the cracks for the last 2 years.

Well, here you go. Now you know.

I worked for over 2 years for my ex-girlfriends father, who owned a pest control company. We had the national contract with Clorox and Johnson & Johnson to field test new Combat and Maxforce roach traps.

Where better to test roach traps than in the projects?

So, I got to go out, find the nastiest apts, put 10 3x7 inch sticky traps in each and then go back 2 days later and collect the traps to count the roaches.

Then we bait them, carry out the same bait / count routine for 3 months, and see which baits best eliminated the roach population.

Yes, I spent 2 years counting live roaches from the projects stuck to tape.

It's a job.

Anyway, 5 days a week, for 2 years, I was in the projects. I saw it first hand. Everyday. So, while I do applaud many of your noble attitudes regarding the poor, how they don't want to be that way, how it's everyone's responsibility to help them, etc... as you said to me earlier:

I would have to ask the same thing of you, because in fact, I have.

I've seen it. I've heard it. To be candid, if you've ever actually spent any time at all in the projects I would find you full of shit if you told me you had never heard it.

The soldiers in 'nam were the children of WW II vets. People with pride in the country, and our achievements. People who could deal with a little hardship in life, and didn't expect the world to give them something or that they were entitled to a good lot in life. People not afraid to work for a living and actually willing to put forth effort to succeed.

As opposed to the "college money" soldiers over there now. The over pampered, over protected children of Gen x (and to some extent Y) that expect everything in life to be handed to them and never expect to actually have to work for a living.

I suppose you believe your service gives you the right to 'throw around blanket shit about those that have.'

Yup. I do. I have also stated that in other threads. Do you happen to have that one bookmarked as well?

About 99% of your posts put down someone or other - no need to bookmark.

Really?

Well, we would not want to throw off the useless stats you spew, now would we? This should keep us well within the bell curve, right?

Exactly my point.

Just doing my part my friend!

Just balancing out your rabid militarism, my nationalistic friend.

Fair enough, I can live with that.

I wonder if Grifter's equally put out by civilians who "talk out of school" by unfailingly praising the military as well. Probably not.