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post #1 of 105
12/30/04 at 4:08pm
Thread Starter 
The rumors about "Star Wars:The Live Action TV Series" are popping up like crazy again.
THe main one is a recycling of the Kevin Smith will Produce and Head Write the series rumors, but the new twist is that Mark Hamill will be invovled, presumably as an older...much older..Luke Skywalker.
With the basic statement that all rumors should be considered crap until proven otherwise, here are the only two things I would bet money on.
A. There will be a live action series. Lucas himself has "off the record" confirmed this. But nothing else either offical of off the record has emerged from Lucas about the series.
B. It will be set post "Return Of the Jedi". Not confirmed but I would give it a very high probablity. This is kind of a no brainer. This will be the easiet to market and sell to a mainstream audience. Don't forget this series, with what it is going to cost per episode, is going to have to aim at Joe Average , not the hard core Star War Geeks. And I would bet that when you consider Twenty years of being on TV, video rentals, etc, a lot more people have seen the original trilogy then have the prequels. Even in terms of theater box office if you figure in inflation, I am betting that the original beats out the prequels. Lucas is not dumb, and he is doing this largely for the money. I think he likes the idea of a steady income from the Star Wars franchise, and this is one way of doing that when ROTS has played it self out.
As for the Kevin Smith/Hamill rumors, I will beleive it when I see it.
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post #2 of 105
12/30/04 at 4:13pm
You capitalist pigs, milk away!
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post #3 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:21pm
So after Lucas puts the final thrust into raping my childhood next summer, he is now going after my dog?
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post #4 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:29pm
Thread Starter 
Can't we have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Lucas Raped My Childhood" reference?
It is so fucking old.
For the record I have my issues with Lucas vis a vis the prequels and am definently NOT a Lucas worshipper, but this autopilot cliche Anti Lucas shit is just plain boring.
"You capitalist pigs, milk away!"
I don't have a problem with Lucas milking Star Wars for all it is worth....I just hope the milk is fresh and spoiled crap like TPM was.....
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post #5 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:31pm
Setting it pre-ROTJ would be very stupid indeed. Unless it's set centuries before the prequels. But the prequels are having such a hard time wringing drama out of events whose outcome we already know, who could write a whole series out of them?

My personal feeling is, set it far enough away from the existing films that it's all new territory, new characters, etc. Although a series with an Obi-Wan-like Luke rounding up new jedi and training them has a fair amount of potential too.

I asked this elsewhere and I don't think I got an answer: how far into the future (and the past) does the "expanded universe" stuff--books, games, comics--extend? I know the Zahn books are set 5 years after ROTJ, and I believe there are stories about Han and Leia's children.
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post #6 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Can't we have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Lucas Raped My Childhood" reference?
no

Let me explain why. These films helped define what I consider to be my love of movies. The possibility that new Star Wars movies were going to be made was usually more exciting than most of the movies in the theatre. The tremendous let down these movies represent - and the self loathing in realizing that the originals are not the perfect diamonds that those like me believed - causes some of us to state that Lucas is raping what we remember as near perfect movie going experiences.

So yes, its not possible to have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Lucas Raped My Childhood" reference.

It is possible to have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Ode to Star Wars the wunderkin of my childhood", but your comment made me beat on that ole' horse again.
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post #7 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:35pm
I think it goes about 30 years or so into the future....
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post #8 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Can't we have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Lucas Raped My Childhood" reference?
It is so fucking old.
Nope, we cant. Lucas is a bitch. "I will now make Greedo shoot first. Hmm, fans didnt like that, ok, I'll make them shoot at the same time." "Ok, now Luke's a screamer, hehe. Oh, fans dont like that either, ok, I'll change it back...". And on and on it goes, Lucas isnt so much an artiste as he is a compromising bitch who loves to think up new ways to sell different versions of a mediocre sci-fi fantasy trilogy that snared the hearts of millions.

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For the record I have my issues with Lucas vis a vis the prequels and am definently NOT a Lucas worshipper, but this autopilot cliche Anti Lucas shit is just plain boring.
"You capitalist pigs, milk away!"
I don't have a problem with Lucas milking Star Wars for all it is worth....I just hope the milk is fresh and spoiled crap like TPM was.....
Its not boring, its fun, cursing Lucas is like breathing air now, it just comes so naturally. I'm not a major fan of the series either, my beef is just with the way he abuses his power, I dont want to see it become a trend.

As for the TV series, well I guess it'll give Hamill something to do now.
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post #9 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by The Prankster
I asked this elsewhere and I don't think I got an answer: how far into the future (and the past) does the "expanded universe" stuff--books, games, comics--extend? I know the Zahn books are set 5 years after ROTJ, and I believe there are stories about Han and Leia's children.
This link from the Force.Net has a chronological listing of most all the books. If you click on the reviews of the last few books I think it tells when it takes place in the Star Wars timeline.

http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/novels_chrono.asp
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post #10 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:47pm
Expect Lucas to continue disregarding the EU. Thank God.

TV, if done correctly, is a terrific medium for drama. I hope they go with a cable network and release seasons of few, high quality, expensive episodes, instead of Star Trek with lightsabres.

By the way, if Lucas raped your childhood, you didn't have much of a childhood to begin with.
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post #11 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:52pm
So watching the prequels helped you to discover a bunch of films you revered aren't perfect?

Weird. I thought that was called growing up. Time to start the 'Tigertailz raped my childhood threads' because I loved them as a kid, and you know what, they're really, really shite.
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post #12 of 105
12/30/04 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Can't we have one freaking Star Wars thread without some "Lucas Raped My Childhood" reference?
Unfortunately not, because although CHUD is by and large full of intelligent people, there are still some who think this is another hyperbolizing breeding ground like the AICN Talkbacks. These people are unable to reason above a sixth grade catchphrase, so trying to call for a cease and desist won't work either.
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post #13 of 105
12/30/04 at 6:02pm
Come now, hating rich famous people is obligatory on the Net.

I honestly dont think the TV series is a good idea, it'll become too Farscape-ish or Bablyon 5-ish, or like other lame sci-fi TV drama, but with lightsabers. Is lightsabers worth it? I'm sure its possible to make three more episodes for the big screen without spending 100 million dollars...isnt it?
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post #14 of 105
12/30/04 at 6:31pm
If this ever does happen, I would like to see it follow the New Jedi Order book series. Great epic story that would be a better fit for TV than the movie screen. That story line would easily take multiple seasons to tell correctly and it has a definite ending. The problem with most TV series is that they lose their way story-wise since they have no set ending ahead of time. Besides, Mark Hamill would be about the right age to step into the Luke Skywalker from these stories. I'm sure he could use the work.
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post #15 of 105
12/30/04 at 6:35pm
I think a Star Wars TV show would be a great idea but I don't know if I'd be too interested in a continuing storyline kind of thing. I think taking an X-Files approach (or CSI) where we have a core group of characters who have follow their own personal sub-plots while a different main plotline unfolds every week.

It would be great to be able to see more intimate (hey, hey, hey... Star Wars is getting a whole lot sexier...) aspects of the mythology... imagine getting too spend an hour with some background creature... see his home, his family, his problems.
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post #16 of 105
12/30/04 at 7:30pm
I think it's a great idea, if done correctly. I really enjoyed the Young Indiana Jones TV show, but I know it wasnt' very popular. People were expecting a teenage Indiana Jones finding a new biblical artifact every week with his whip and a young Sallah...nice imagery.
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post #17 of 105
12/30/04 at 8:12pm
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What I was trying to say if you want to rip apart Lucas, go ahead,..on some issues I will join you....just don't use that tired, boring old "He Raped My Childhood" line, or references thereto, to do it. Avoid tired cliches, folks. That is Good Writing 101. It's even one of the rules in Strunk and WHite's "Elements of Style"..a book a good many people on the net would do well to read and heed....

"there are still some who think this is another hyperbolizing breeding ground like the AICN Talkbacks."
And thank the powers that be that Nick has the balls to take action against such people when the forums seem to be getting out of hand. The AICN talkbacks are a strong argument in favor of moderated boards.

"Setting it pre-ROTJ would be very stupid indeed."
From a pure standpoint of marketing and promotion I agree. That is not the approach I would take personally...I would like a "Tales Of The Jedi" anthology type series that could cover all the period of the Star Wars Universe...but considering how Anthlogy type series have done lately I can understand why it is a good idea not to go there. It has got to appeal to a wide audience...not just the fanboys..something that a lot of people over at www.theforce.net just don't understand.

And if the Hamill as an older Skywalker rumors are true, I am betting that we will be getting Mara Jade also. She's simply too popular for Lucas to ignore. Too bad Julianne Moore is so sucessful in her film career...she would be great as a older but still sexy and kick ass Mara Jade for the Older Luke....
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post #18 of 105
12/31/04 at 12:27am
I say do it animated and use the EU for storylines. You wouldn't have to spend money on special effects and you'd have ready-made stories to use.
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post #19 of 105
12/31/04 at 5:54am
The EU sucks. I don't want this series to be based on the novels and other crap.
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post #20 of 105
12/31/04 at 8:53am
What does the European Union have to do with all this!?
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post #21 of 105
12/31/04 at 12:56pm
Lucas molested my pre-pubescent id!!! J/K

Whatever Lucas does, it probably won't be based on the books or any EU thing - unless he just gives up and lets someone else come up with the story. I wonder if anything in the TV show is considered "canon".

Plus remember Lucas opened Lucas Animation in the far east not too long ago. I don't know if live action is on his mind. Mark Hamill is an excellent voice actor as well. Plus we know that Kevin Smith loved his Clerks animated series. And the Clone Wars series was a success. Just a thought.

Whatever it is, remember that the Young Indiana Jones series had high production values and was the start of Lucas' foray in digital effects and filmmaking. So no matter what comes of it, it should be entertaining at least.
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post #22 of 105
1/1/05 at 3:00am
Some corner of my twisted brain would like to see a Star Wars TV show where every episode is a SW-themed parody of an existing television show.

-"Cops" with stormtroopers, basically an elongated version of "Troops."
-"Cheers" set in the Mos Eisley cantina with a bunch of the aliens from A New Hope.
-A cheesy family sitcom based around the Skywalker family, with Vader as the goofy dad and Yoda as the curmudgeonly old uncle.
-Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Lando Calrissian in a gritty "Miami Vice"-esque crime show.
-Boba Fett, Dengar, Bossk, 4-LOM, IG-88, and a gold-covered Zuckuss in their own show, "A-Team" style.
-Admiral Ackbar's own cooking show.
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post #23 of 105
1/1/05 at 3:08am
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Originally Posted by Al Cvervik
So after Lucas puts the final thrust into raping my childhood next summer, he is now going after my dog?
Nope. I am.
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post #24 of 105
1/1/05 at 3:25am
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Originally Posted by dudalb
A. There will be a live action series. Lucas himself has "off the record" confirmed this. But nothing else either offical of off the record has emerged from Lucas about the series.
No there hasn't been word from Lucas himself, but there has been word from Lucasfilm that they are looking into both an animated and live action series for the 2006 season.

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Originally Posted by Jim Ward
The "Star Wars" brand will live long after the last "Star Wars" movie. We're taking "Star Wars" to the television medium, where we've already had great success with our Emmy-winning animated series on the Cartoon Network.


As a result, we will have new live-action and animated TV shows over the next few years, and I think there's a bright future there for games based on these new properties as well as original "Star Wars" games like a new real-time strategy PC game that Petroglyph is developing for next year. This game will take the (real-time strategy) genre in a new direction and will balance gameplay between the hard-core gamers who buy these games and the broader audience that's familiar with the "Star Wars" brand.
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B. It will be set post "Return Of the Jedi". Not confirmed but I would give it a very high probablity.
Probably not, in fact I don't think there's any chance at all of this happening. They'd want to avoid as much as possible anything that would have to do with the main characters in the classic trilogy and they've already explored this area with all sorts of materials. There's only two periods they havn't really explored much, the time between Episode 3 and 4 and before Episode 1. I'd bet that they're more likely to do something in those periods.
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post #25 of 105
1/1/05 at 4:50am
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Originally Posted by cognizant
. I'm not a major fan of the series either, my beef is just with the way he abuses his power, I dont want to see it become a trend.

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Abuses his power? George W. Bush is the one you need to be worried about, but then he's probably more your style. And since you have no crediabilty whatsoever on anything related to Star Wars, get out and shut up.
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post #26 of 105
1/1/05 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by IG-88
The EU sucks. I don't want this series to be based on the novels and other crap.
Everything about your namesake, including it's name itself, comes from the EU. In the movies IG-88 was just a background prop visible for 1.5 seconds.
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post #27 of 105
1/1/05 at 12:54pm
I would like to see an anthology series of the Jedis. The most current could be right before the Phantom Menace starts and the earliest could be either during the Sith's rein or right after they disappeared.

Maybe just a general anthology series where we follow Bounty Hunters and Smugglers around. All the cool kids get their chance.
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post #28 of 105
1/4/05 at 1:56pm
I just hope that if it's live action, that it can maintain the quality of the movies (fx, etc)...it's like watching a tv version of Superman, it's just not the same. If it could be animated like the Incredibles, or like the opening film from Animatix (Flight of the...Osaris??? sorry, can't remember) it could be quite amazing to see.

But for series ideas, I'd love an anthology as well...maybe different Jedi Tales or something...it would also be wicked to see the Siths when they were at the top of their numbers. Or from a geek fanboy's perspective - too see the Jedi/Mandalorian war/fight/etc.
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post #29 of 105
1/4/05 at 4:06pm
Main problem I have with this is that the effects....being that it's T.V. the effects could be very much not upto the standards set by the films.....

I always thoguht it belonged on the big screen but that's just me.
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post #30 of 105
1/4/05 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by Stormin
Everything about your namesake, including it's name itself, comes from the EU. In the movies IG-88 was just a background prop visible for 1.5 seconds.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am not an IG-88 fanboy. You see, way back in the day when I tried to sign up at my first Star Wars board all the good names, like Luke and Boba Fett, were taken. I finally settled on this one, and it's the name I've used at Star Wars related boards ever since. Also, I knew the name mainly by association of Boba.
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post #31 of 105
1/4/05 at 10:27pm
Hammerhead, Walrusman, Snaggletooth, and IG-88 are as real as it gets for me. They have their own reality TV show. Seriously, if you had a figure in the 80's, you're the real deal. Not like today, with this Momaw Nadon business.
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post #32 of 105
1/5/05 at 1:20pm
Some possible SW TV series:

Pimp my Hyperdrive
Friends and Droids
Leave it to Jar Jar
Sex and the City-Planet
Skywalker Family Fued
Survivor: Mustafar
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post #33 of 105
1/5/05 at 1:25pm
I'd rather see Pimp My 'Droid, ISB Blue, or L&O: CorSec. Or maybe some DIY-inspired shows like While You Were in Carbonite, Trading Freighters, or This Old Hut.
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post #34 of 105
1/5/05 at 2:12pm
I'd tune in for:

DESPERATE HANDMAIDENS
EVERYBODY LOVES JAR JAR
THE WAMPA HUNTER with Steve Irwin
MOS EISLEY VICE
QUEER EYE FOR THE JEDI
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post #35 of 105
1/5/05 at 9:48pm
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Originally Posted by poopoodle
In the 80's?

1978! Sucka. I got the Cantina pack from Sears. that's right, i've got the ED TOO TALL Walrus Man, or is Snaggle Tooth? One of those dudes.

But yeah. Hammerhead will always be Hammerhead to me.

In regards to the show. I hope it has Luke in it, a post-Jedi setting. Then for sweeps week they can bust out Chewbacca and Lando.
I was simplifying!

I'm hoping the show features Ewoks way more then it should. I want one episode where a Gungan crew picks up a few Ewoks in exchange for work. But ghostly happenings begin and mutiny ensues! Imagine the drama with Ewoks and Gungans!
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post #36 of 105
1/6/05 at 9:59am
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Originally Posted by Jason@Star-Wars.net
I was simplifying!

I'm hoping the show features Ewoks way more then it should. I want one episode where a Gungan crew picks up a few Ewoks in exchange for work. But ghostly happenings begin and mutiny ensues! Imagine the drama with Ewoks and Gungans!
The Gungan engineer and the Ewok courier are searching for survivors after a reactor leak, very dangerous:

"Did yousa hear someteeng?"

"Nub nub."

Suddenly, a ghostly apparition appears where the two had just been standing.

"Muymuymuy! Looky dat!"

"Aieeeeeeeeeeyaaaaa!"

Cut to black with maniacal cackling.

*Please don't ban me for the Gungan dialect.
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post #37 of 105
1/7/05 at 9:59pm
I think if there's any chance of getting Mark Hamill involved, then having it set post-Jedi could be really special. But if they don't making it relevant and tied to the original films could be difficult. I don't want another sci-fi TV show, I want "Star Wars". So having an anthology series, either dealing with other Jedi or maybe peripheral characters from the OT and their "untold" stories could be cool.
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post #38 of 105
1/7/05 at 10:02pm
They could do worse than base it on the old series of STAR WARS TALES.

The new one sucks, but the old one was greatness.
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post #39 of 105
1/8/05 at 3:03pm
The Real World: Dagobah
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post #40 of 105
1/8/05 at 6:00pm
Idea for the series, highlight spoiler text to read:

*spoilers*

In Episode III, Yoda and Mace control what is refered to as the 'Jedi Beacon.' It sends out general warnings and messages to all Jedi throughout the galaxy. Orignally, they set it to 'Return to the Jedi Temple' to bolster their defences, and later they set it to 'run and hide!' Perhaps Lucas will do the right thing, let this series runner toss the establised Post-RotJ EU aside (Or use it as a loose outline) and show Luke seeking out these few remaining Jedi to help him rebuild the Order. As we can see in the Special-Special Return of the Jedi DVD, the temple still stands on Coruscant.
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post #41 of 105
1/10/05 at 5:29pm
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Since when has the post ROTJ EU been a consistnent universe?
I dont' think that Lucas give a shit whether his TV show agrees with the EU or not.
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post #42 of 105
1/19/05 at 11:29pm
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Since when has the post ROTJ EU been a consistnent universe?
I dont' think that Lucas give a shit whether his TV show agrees with the EU or not.
Exactly, Lucas does not care if things mesh with the EU. Look at Boba Fett for example. In the films series continuity, he's a clone of Jango. EU-wise, however, there are about two or three different origins for him. The EU itself is not very consistant and Lucas has never attempted to follow it. The only example of his EU usage is the name Coruscant, and that's just because he liked the name.

I'm willing to bet that the series will end up taking place post-ROTJ.
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post #43 of 105
1/20/05 at 2:15am
See also:
  • Aayla Secura
  • Darth Maul's double-bladed lightsaber
  • Numerous planetary and cultural references in the scripts
  • The "Boonta Eve" and other Droids nods
  • Apparently *several* major references in EP3, moreso than the past two flicks, per Pablo Hidalgo
  • Another EU character to be seen in EP3, pending the final cut of the film
  • And so forth.

Another slight correction:

There was only *one* backstory-bit ever devised for Boba Fett prior to AOTC, which was an alias adopted by him during his earliest years as a professional bounty hunter. Over the years, a number of folks spun up this urban legend of the EU supposedly concocting some different childhood origin for him, but that's a myth. Never happened. It never touched with the prequel epoch one scintilla, and Lucas wouldn't even have allowed it. What does exist, though, still tracks with what we've seen in the films.

As for the TV series -- whether animated or live-action, it's highly doubtful that LFL will be passing up the opportunity to make up Darth Vader's lack of ensuited EP3 screentime to the fans, plus depicting the long-awaited "Jedi Purge" time period right on EP3's coattails. Chances are this will carry over to the post-Episode III/pre-Episode IV years, during the Empire's germinal days. A number of "bottle shows" set on Coruscant, the occasional space battle, Jedi-hunting throughout, etc.

Animation would goose the workable storytelling significantly, though. Any coincidence Lucasfilm recently unshuttered their new Singapore facility?
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post #44 of 105
1/20/05 at 2:25am
There is more than just one series on the drawing boards. And there is live action stuff as well as animated stuff planned. Right now, May 19th is the focus... so Lucasfilm is not likely to shed anymore light until after then. Of course, during his inevitable rounds of forthcoming press interviews Lucas may let something slip.
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post #45 of 105
1/20/05 at 2:48am
What about a Kung-Fu type series? A few young Jedi's, previously under the tutelage of Luke, travel around the ruined galaxy picking up rogues, smugglers, cast-offs, ex-soldiers, etc. and helping out local areas and trying to repair the damage.

Seems like a great concept to me, and the episodic structure would fit a t.v. show well. I think an overarching drama might lose steam real fast. They could use a M. Falcon type ship to be the one constant in terms of geography.
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post #46 of 105
1/20/05 at 10:30am
I like the idea of a post Jedi tv show. Luke Skywalker training a bunch of new Jedi has a lot of potential and there has to be remenants of the old empire out there to play with. So i think thats the way they will go (especially with someone like Kevin Smith involved).

The only EU stuff i have read is Heir to the Empire, which i thought was pretty good and doubted could be topped.
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post #47 of 105
1/20/05 at 3:43pm
Aw, I see no reason why Kevin Smith couldn't have creative input....hell, his help with dialogue on the prequels would have been welcome. In any type of creative script generating capacity I think Smith would shine. Maybe even as a producer. Just do not let him direct episodes, please. If you watch a DVD of his interviews with college students, he is an articulate and creative manipulator of the English language even in an impromptu setting


"George Lucas is going to sue somebody". Pepsi came out of my nose I was laughing so hard at that line.
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post #48 of 105
1/20/05 at 5:13pm
Well, compare the relationship writing in CHASING AMY to ATTACK OF THE CLONES...

After all, AOTC might not be any good, but it's still SW...
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post #49 of 105
1/20/05 at 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by poopoodle
Kevin Smith can write some funny stuff ABOUT Star Wars. I don't think he could write Star Wars.
Keep in mind he has also written some serious comics, not everything relies on pop culture references and fart jokes. I don't imagine his style of dialogue would work too well in the Star Wars universe, but then it doesn't work for me EVER.
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post #50 of 105
1/20/05 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by poopoodle
Wha?

"Meesa Jar-Jar binks, snootch!"

Huh?

Kevin Smith can write some funny stuff ABOUT Star Wars. I don't think he could write Star Wars.
I'm with you there. I have no idea how the comics he worked on turned out (which can be a factor concerning how well he would deal with Star Wars fiction). But I wouldn't put him anywhere near the top of the list. Does Smith bring his movies in on time and on budget? If so, maybe he would be a great producer for a Star Wars TV show, if McCallum has had enough of Star Wars and moves on.
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