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I could cry-wait, to be honest-I DID cry. I want to stab Fred Durst...

post #1 of 69
4/14/00 at 7:59am
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I was turned down in the wake of Columbine by quite a few production companies in regard to my high school/youth terrorism screenplay. A couple even LIKED it, until those weak Matrix-styled fucks went apeshit.

Now this LIMP DICK motherfucker-with a single fucking weak sauce KORN (you SPELLED it WRONG, douchebags!) video to his credit gets to have Fincher direct (and LET'S FACE IT, that's what's going to happen) in his name?

It's shit like this that makes me want to shoot myself in the fucking head! I swear if there's so much as a shared conjunction with my screenplay, one of two things will occur-the Writer's Guild (my script is registered) is going to arbitrate in my favor-or I don a trenchcoat and a TEC-9.

Can anyone get me a copy of this fucking script?
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post #2 of 69
4/14/00 at 10:00am
Ummm. I am TOTALLY out of the loop here, but always ready to listen to what Hot Animal Machine has to say.

So what are you talking about?
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post #3 of 69
4/14/00 at 10:29am
you ever read the news page of CHUD, grendel?
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post #4 of 69
4/14/00 at 10:58am
I completely sympathize with you Animal, it's pretty shitty to have to watch minimally talented people get all the breaks in the biz, I've got some bad ass headhunting (slice n dice!) skills in my genes if ya need more back-up. Machetes are Niiiiiice.
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post #5 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:07am
so is your screenplay like Toy Soldiers 2? That would rock!
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post #6 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:09am
I JUST READ THE NEWS PAGE AND I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!


AAAAARRRRrrrrrrghgghghhhgghhhhh!
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post #7 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:13am
You needed to read yesterday's page...
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post #8 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:21am
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I've never seen that movie, chenzzo.

If I had to break it down quick-and when I pitched it, I did-I would say-

Think ROCK N' ROLL HIGH SCHOOL meets DIE HARD.

Think DIE HARD gets the post-modern genre parody treatment.

Think JOHN HUGHES meets JOHN WOO with a PUNK ROCK soundtrack.

This script is my life. Everything in it is me-everthing I know about humans, about love, about automatic weaponry, about hate, about movies-EVERYTHING. I believe in this script like nothing else I've ever written-and all told, I've written five screenplays.
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post #9 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:24am
A few things:
http://www.chud.com/news/apr00/apr13runt.php3

There's your news story...

Another thing:

HAM, you mention putting a gun to YOUR head because of all this, and that just seems so counterproductive.
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post #10 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:35am
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Ahhh, it's horseshit-it's not going to happen for awhile-and when it does-I'll empty the clip into shitheads first-A road trip with a MAC-1o and every Rollins album, every MANOWAR album, and a map to the stars' homes...

"Knock-Knock"

"Hello"

"Jan DeBont"

"Yes.

"GUILTY"

BLAM!

"Juliette Lewis?"

"Fred Dunce"

and I'll keep one last bullet-"for myself, or for my enemy..."

Let's make that list...
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post #11 of 69
4/14/00 at 1:40pm
If the FBI monitors this board, I think a big red flag just went up in the H's of the alphabetical listings (:
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post #12 of 69
4/14/00 at 1:49pm
Don't fret that nuisance! I've had several agents visit my office lately. They've all been ... uh ..., dispatched onto other cases.
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post #13 of 69
4/14/00 at 1:55pm
'flaccid' has two c's.

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post #14 of 69
4/14/00 at 2:26pm
actually HAM, that was supposed to be a joke. I'm so sorry.
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post #15 of 69
4/14/00 at 2:49pm
He finally reads the fucking story and all he says is "flaccid" has two c's. That's it, grendel, you're never allowed to read CHUD again... and I'm giving you double-bio duty in the sewer!
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post #16 of 69
4/14/00 at 2:51pm
Heh heh heh...
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post #17 of 69
4/14/00 at 3:38pm
Sorry I'm so late on this HAM, but I feel your pain, man. I too wrote a draft of a high school action thriller, only mine was more Red Dawn meets Class of 1999.

I spent years on it only to hit the print button MINUTES AFTER the whole Columbine thing. I literally walked out into the living room as it printed just as the news reports broke.

Suffice it to say it took me a while to get over it. In the end I junked the whole thing. Maybe I'll do it someday as a western.
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post #18 of 69
4/14/00 at 5:57pm
I will keep my personal feelings about what has been said here out of this.
but....
One of the great things mentioned on our LA trip, which you have all heard a lot about, is the fact that no matter what you are writing, someone else somewhere is also (or has also) done it. A killer high school drama with lots of guns, albiet (sp?) possibly cool to some, isn't really that original. I don't have one, nor would I ever write one, but a couple people have already said they do. All I am saying (am I really saying anything though, really?) is a lot of bitching isn't going to change anything.
Sure, you may seem like a badass and I can't stand Limp Bisket (or however it is spelled) but someone was in the right place at the right time and got a gig. It is a lot easier for Fred D. to get a directing gig than all of us for simple reasons. I don't agree with it but I live with it. This isn't the first time this has happened and it isn't the last. Just roll with it and take it in stride. Don't threaten to shoot anyone for no reason, although Jan might be a good start!
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post #19 of 69
4/14/00 at 7:13pm
chill....
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post #20 of 69
4/14/00 at 7:29pm
Thread Starter 
Of course, the threats ARE idle, Adam, but as I look around and find I have less and less to lose...

And if they're so damned common, where are they?

I started work on this thing two days after opening night of Scream-after a conversation with friends about what genre deserved a ripping. You want to say it's unoriginal-fine. Maybe they're all over the place.

But nobody does it better than ME.

More brains, more wit, more heart than the competition. Whoever they are.

And you fucking well best BELIEVE, that ANYTHING I SHIT OUT ON MY WORST DAY would be an improvement over that illiterate dickhead-anytime, anyplace.
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post #21 of 69
4/14/00 at 11:22pm
Yeah, you know what. Self confidence is a great thing. But, don't you think you can go a little too far? Take a moment to explain what is original about yours.
Someone above stated they had something along those lines as well -- and I am willing to put two dollars on the fact you are not alone. This is not saying yours is bad, far from it. I'm sure you have talent. As you put it, no one does it better than you so who am I to argue. However, maybe you should set your sights on something else or try again for this one. Bitching does a lot less than working at it.

Also, the sensitivity you are showing for the Columbine people touches me. It really does.

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post #22 of 69
4/15/00 at 2:02am
Why do the Columbine kids need our sensitivity? There's much worse things happening in the world currently which we aren't sensitive about or to. Yes it was a tragedy but is it really important or momentous in the grand scheme of things. It's no reason to get as freaked out as the churches and government about flicks with guns and schools. The Basketball Diaries, anyone? Damn, disregard this post... I think I should go to bed.
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post #23 of 69
4/15/00 at 2:55am
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No, you're right-"bitching" is not
going to change anything, Adam-but
it makes me feel a whole lot better.

"Self-confidence" you say? I'm fresh out, sir. Ask anyone who knows me.

My life is a lame, empty train
wreck-a monumental failure.

But I know that there are a couple
things I'm good at. And no one gets to take that knowledge away from me
when I know I fail on so many other
levels-I get to know what I know. I deserve to have seen the things I've seen, learn the things I've learned, and live what I've lived. I get to
possess what talent I have worked all my life to cultivate.

Everybody's got that one thing,
Adam-except Fred Durst.

I'm a star, I'm a star, I'm a bright, shining star...

What makes my script good?

Wanna' read it? It's derivative as
all hell, but it reads with more wit and more heart than something like
The Matrix, or Scream-and I've read those scripts.

It's funny, it's sad, it's real,
it's a cartoon, it's drama, comedy,
action, romance, and even a little
social commentary-and the beauty of
it is that it is not hateful, or
exploitative, or even cynical-it's
hopeful-and it's absolutely from me.

And as far as sympathy for the
Columbine kids-Fuck, man-When I FIT
IN, I didn't fit in-I was outside of it all-and fucked with my entire
academic career by crude jock
assholes-motherfuckers that PISSED
IN MY LOCKER on my football gear
because I didn't want to get "fucked up" with them. I'm not the
beer-bong, party guy-I prefer my
dates to be not passed out from the
Stoli-spiked lemonade before I grope them. Because I was not them, I was fucked with constantly-I know what
those "Trenchcoat Mafia" idiots
felt-I have no sympathy for some jock-ass whose football career got cut short-I't just means that no one will get to hear his stories about how he forces his girlfriend to swallow anymore.

Having said that, it would appear
that I have allied myself with the
murderers-and I do know how they
felt-I was tormented in school-AND
YET I DIDN'T FEEL THE NEED TO DO
SOME WEAK ASS SHIT LIKE OPEN FIRE ON THE SCHOOL.

I did however, hit the guy who pissed on my gear in the face with my urine-filled football helmet, though.

That which does not kill you makes
you stronger. You endure this. It
builds character. It fosters
integrity. Integrity is about all I have.

And my art.

Fred Durst is not an artist-Fred
Durst is fifteen minutes and counting. And nothing he
has done-not his novelty cover of a
George Michael song, not his Top 40
metal-rap garbage-shows me he
deserves this kind of opportunity.

I've wanted to make movies ever
since I was eight years old. My
eyes were my camera. My orchestral
score hummed-I placed my head where my shot was, I understood slow motion, editing, I taught myself these things, I read tons-something Fred Durst has confessed to not doing.

I'm a better writer than Fred Durst.
I'm a better director than Fred Durst.

And, I would wager, so are you.

And, when you read the CHUD article, you get the feeling the author of the piece resents this turn of events, as well.

Because it's absurd. And it makes me sick to the point of soo tired.

Like I said-the threats are idle. But things only get worse-only get more bleak. Where does it go from here? How much farther does it sink?

Does it bother you? That the shot you work to earn is filled with a lesser...human? I used to take it in stride-I used to say that my chance would come. The ignorance used to slide off of me like I was teflon-coated.

But it doesn't slide off anymore, because I've been a little closer to it. I've held court with some people-had "some people" call "my people"-know what it feels like to almost be there-then not. To put a screenplay into the hands of the guy you see as the leading man-that is why it is harder to take.

And also, to be perfectly honest with you-I am so much weaker than I used to be.

Sorry this was so long, but I really felt the need to explain myself to you, Adam. Could be a lot of people feel like I do-maybe I'm just not so good at dealing with it.
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post #24 of 69
4/15/00 at 3:25am
Sorry to hear about this HAM but I have 2 things to add. 1. I dont know you but I know you could write and direct circles around fred the shithead, that loser really needs to eat a gun. 2. There is no such thing as rap-metal, it does not exist, never has never will.
but thats just my opionion I could be wrong
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post #25 of 69
4/15/00 at 3:40am
Hell yeah a lot of people feel like you do. Well, I assume so from what I have seen and read. It is unfortunatly common. But at least do something. I keep coming back to this point because I feel it is quite important.
Jesus, I can not say that I am a better human than Fred D. You can't either. Don't lower yourself by doing so. I have already stated I don't feel he deserves this but damn, take it like a man. You know why he has it. We all know. It isn't that big of a deal man.
Also, everyone has faced rejection in their life in many forms. Jobs, girls, friends, schools...etc etc. None of it is that important. Life goes on and so should you. And it sucks that you were picked on. I honestly can't relate too much, but I can understand where you are coming from. I can't see where some of it relates to the topic at hand, but a rant is a rant, right!

And if you get a chance, I would like to hear about the original aspects of your screen play. I can't find a way to word that to sound for real and not come off as an ass, but trust me, I do want to.

And by the way, when I stated about the lack of sensitvity toward the Columbine people, I ment all involved. The way you talk about it is, in some ways, disgusting. I don't see it as THAT huge of an event, but fuck.... you know what, it was a big event. What a great world! Hell yeah, fire up the "high school/youth terrorism screenplay" HAM! It is such a shame a few deaths put a damper on your plans.
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post #26 of 69
4/15/00 at 4:56am
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I talked about getting picked on to illustrate my well-formed feelings on the Columbine incident. To explain that I understood things from both sides-and that it didn't matter-whether you were a jock with a bullet in you or the asshole pulling the trigger-you're both weak and pathetic.

It doesn't take a man to make fun of someone perceived as different, nor does it take a man to open fire on your classmates-both are useless, pointless things to do.

But at least it was a powerful statement.

And YES Adam-why mothball my script because of it? One has nothing to do with the other. People said the Matrix was to blame-but Warners is going ahead with the sequels. People said that Doom was to blame-didn't stop John Romero from releasing Daikatana. And no one will stop Fred Durst from making a film about a kid seeking violent revenge on his classmates. But I was told that a movie with violence in a school was not the way to go-and the beauty part is-that my script has nothing to do with seeking revenge on bullies or anything like that! But I guess I'm not posessed of the introspective genius of Fred Durst-'cause he handles things with such tact and sensitivity!

For isolated incidences of insanity to alter the course of entertainment means censorship-plain and simple. But unfortunately, I discovered that is not the case in regard to my work-apparently it just so happened that I wasn't capable of the directorial artisty of FRED FUCKING DURST.

And so you know, I remain undeterred. I'm working on the sixth script as we speak-literally. I don't stop. I'm about to get fired from my lame job because my productivity is down due to lack of sleep. I don't intend to give up-but Limp Dick sure makes it hard to go on.

This is the last time I'll say anything on the subject-it's clear that I'm not reaching you. I really hoped to. You're right-it's not the end of my world-and my work will most certainly continue-but that doesn't make it suck any less.

As for the script... DJ-can I get a witness? I'd say it's derivative but oddly original because of the way the subject matter is tackled in regard to dialogue, characterization, and camerawork. Help a brother out here, Evil-script review time...
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post #27 of 69
4/15/00 at 11:40am
Guess your not reaching me. I hear where you are coming from but I have never seen anyone bitch over something so inconsiquetail (sp) as this. Take it as a life lesson. I think it seems as you are but, uh, well... I have said everything over and over again here. I want to but wont address anything here other than the direct topic, so I see no reason to repeat myself.

And about the script... I'm sure you did a good job but maybe people didn't want it. If that isn't the case, then shop it again. You said you have 5 now, maybe one of those had better feedback.

And just a small tip that we learned in LA: Don't put "camerawork" into your script. I know it is a hard thing sometimes, but get rid of it! John and I had to do the same thing a few times.

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post #28 of 69
4/15/00 at 2:14pm
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Yes, I know-drives me nuts! I'm compelled to do it constantly!
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post #29 of 69
4/15/00 at 2:41pm
I'm too stupid to read the rest of this thread to find out about this flacid thing, but I have to say that there is NOTHING wrong with flacid sex, so back off!

HAM, HotPants, I agree with all of you. Rock stars should be in movies like 'Rock-N-Roll High School' and 'Point Break' and 'Pledge Night' (see if anyone knows who was in that, fuckers), they should have nothing to do with what goes on behind the camera, unless it's creative consulting (for videos) or getting donuts and coffee for directors (for everything else). They should not be allowed to make social commentary, wanna know why? Because that's what their god damn music is for!
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post #30 of 69
4/15/00 at 3:46pm
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Pledge Night-Joey Belladonna, formerly of Anthrax...

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I am a man fired from the barrel of a gun.
Instructions:Remain calm. Prepare to destroy.
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post #31 of 69
4/15/00 at 3:51pm
HAM, have I ever told you you fucking rule? Cause you do.
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post #32 of 69
4/15/00 at 5:02pm
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It is awesome outside! I am going outside to play. Who wants to come with?
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post #33 of 69
4/16/00 at 12:37am
I think this is a great thread, regardless of ranting and bitching. High school, bullies, rage, it's a very interesting topic to me.

The following paragraph is just some insight on bullies from me. I'm telling you now, so you can skip it and stick to topic if you want.
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I'm reminded of a line from Scream. "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative."

I think the kid (forgot his name) that initiated the Columbine shooting was very much insane. The other kid was pulled in by peer pressure (more dangerous than any movie).

I've been shit on since elementary school. Picked on as far back since I can remember. I dealt with it. I got strong. I did not go insane and kill everybody I didn't like (though I felt like it often, don't get me wrong on that). When I was 15 or 16, I read "Rage" by Stephen King. It made me feel better that somebody else felt the exact same way. Stephen King wrote in a foreward of one version of "The Bachman Books" that he wasn't sure that that book should even have been written. I'd like to tell him personally that that book helped me. Just like that, all my rage (no pun intended) was gone. I was fine.

Everybody that made my life hell can either piss off or try to make good. I'm neutral on the subject. I get by on the realization that I'm wiser, funnier, and better than them. It may not be true (maybe, maybe not), but that's inconsequential.

Personally, I think it's the people that get it the worst that become the most talented (read: geeks, nerds, etc.). Some great comics had bad childhoods. The dark stuff brings out the light in you (cheesy).
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BACK TO TOPIC:

I think HAM ripping on Durst is a symbolic thing. Yeah, he's pissed at him, but it's more than that. HAM's pissed that it's not HIM.

I think Durst isn't so much a plague that he's made out to be, but then again, I loved Batman Returns, so...

I do think he's not very talented, but some of LB's music I do dig (not much, cause pop is still pop, no matter how loud it is). He's doing exactly what I'd do, though. He got his foot in the door with his band, and now he's stepping through. He's moving on to directing, and I wouldn't be all that surprised if I saw him starring in a movie in two or three years.

John, if a musician wants to toss out a message through movies, I've got no problem with it (though it IS Durst we're talking about). I don't think a person has to stick to just one format.

As a director, he strikes me as a "all camera angles and colors" person. This movie'll tank if his fans don't come through (and I bet they won't).
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post #34 of 69
4/16/00 at 12:47am
And regarding HAM's script:

I looked at it and there's not a lot I'd change (save for dialogue, but that's just cause I want everyone to talk like me). It's a loose shoot-em-up adventure with some hard moments. Die Hard High is the way I think of it. It's pretty visual (and the visuals are pretty), so I'd imagine it being tough to pitch. It's funny and a bit touching in places (and I swear if it touches me one more time, HAM...).

It's not THE most original thing ever created, but it doesn't mean it's any less enjoyable. I bet we'd all like to make at least ONE genre film. I want to cover all of em (western, vampires, sci-fi, etc.). The thing about genres is: "can you make it GOOD?"
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post #35 of 69
4/16/00 at 4:12am
Ramones-Rock n Roll High School
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post #36 of 69
4/16/00 at 4:21am
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Riff Randall is hot!
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post #37 of 69
4/16/00 at 5:01pm
Now moving into the "Does Media Cause Violence" part of this......
I find this to be an extreamly interesting topic. My senior thesis was on it in fact.
I agree with the above. These people are fucked from the get go. A lot of people go through what those kids went though, however we all know a very slim few resort to what they did.
That said...
There are some throught provoking studies i waded through for my research task. The one I remember the most was from the wake of the Paduka, KY shooting. The investigation was focused on "shooting games." You know, the ones with the independent guns to fire. We have all played or seen them I'm sure. The study was talking about conditioning of the youth etc etc, especialy since the kid had 8 of 8 shots (I think, with something like 3 head shots in there) and had never fired a real hand gun before he killed these people.

I don't want to get into too much of this, but after I completed my assignment I was very surprised (and a little pleased) to find that my thoughts on the topic had actually altered a little through out out my discoveries.
I still stand by my first paragraph but now feel that the media is a larger piece of the puzzle (not all of it, but larger than I first would have thought). I know a lot of my peers dissagree with this, but I don't see how it can be denied.
But, who knows.
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post #38 of 69
4/17/00 at 9:26am
You can say what you want about Cops or other reality based crime shows, but it was one of those that changed my life.

I grew up watching action movie on top of action movie. I've seen Arnold, Sly, Clint, Chuck, and others kill millions of people. I've seen bad guys pitilessly waste innocents, and I never felt bad about it. Ya know why? It wasn't real.

One day I'm watching some reality show, can't remember the name of it, but it was focusing on a hostage situation in a bank. You could see the hostages laying in a row on the floor, with a black-clad commando looking "bad-Guy" pacing around them. Standard stuff, ya see, just like in the movies. When the police snipers showed up, no surprise, also just like in the movies. Here's where things started to get real.

The sniper missed the hostage taker. The bullet was deflected by the glass window he shot through. The "bad-guy" took off, toward the back of the bank, but as he did, he was just firing at the floor, right into all of the hostages. Sure, I'd seen that before, but something shook me this time. I knew at this point that there were people in the world that had no concern for the lives of other people. These were real people with families getting killed for no other reason than the fact that they happened to be in a bank. That a man could callously shoot innocent unarmed hostages as he was running by really bothered me. Before that day, I would callously remark that I was "gonna kill somebody" if they did something I didn't like. Seeing it happen in real life, not on a safe movie set, changed my mind. I don't know what purpose this rant even served, but it makes me feel better. So there!
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post #39 of 69
4/17/00 at 9:46am
I have so much to say on this topic that I won't even bother. Just assume it was lengthy, well-written, and intelligent, yet a biting social commentary as well.

To sum up: Killing is bad unless you have to do it. Then, go for the splatter factor so as to get maximum enjoyment because it'll probably be a while before a situation like that comes up again.

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Also: Yesterday on MTV (I know, I know...leave me alone) I watched the ENTIRE 'Formation of N'Sync and Why We're Different From All The Other Boy Bands Like Backstreet Boys and 98 Degrees and NKOTB', and I thought to myself: Self, what is the difference between THESE boy bands and, say, Limp-Korn-Powerman-Kid-Magnet?

Answer: Limp-Korn-Powerman-Kid-Magnet know how to play instruments. That is all.
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post #40 of 69
4/17/00 at 12:31pm
What were you watching now?

chenzzo, I agree about those shows. I think they help more than hurt for the reason you were talking about. Reality is the key here and it serves to ground some people back to just that, reality.

And no one, NO ONE, will beat NKOTB!!! There, I said it!

[This message has been edited by Adam McAllister (edited 04-17-2000).]
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post #41 of 69
4/17/00 at 1:26pm
Without NKOTB we'd have no Donnie Walberg. Without Donnie Walberg's popularity, we'd have no Mark Walberg. Without Mark Walberg, we'd have no Three Kings. Nuff Said.
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post #42 of 69
4/17/00 at 1:37pm
And Mark Wahlberg was in Three Kings with George Clooney who was born in Lexington, KY where James Varney was born who was a voice in Toy Story with Tom Hanks who was in Apollo 13 with Kevin Bacon!!!

Wow, NKOTB IS great!!

[This message has been edited by Adam McAllister (edited 04-17-2000).]
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post #43 of 69
4/17/00 at 1:46pm
Thread Starter 
That was great!
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post #44 of 69
4/17/00 at 1:59pm
In the late 1980's four Vietnamese immigrants held up a 'Good Guys' electronic and appliances store at around 2:30 on a Saturday afternoon. Holding somewhere in the neighborhood of twenty to thirty hostages for several hours, the teens became agitated and demanded "A plane and ammunition so that we can return to our country and finish what the U.S. started and drive out the communists".

After this rant (and, I believe, one hostage released with a message and one executed), the police became a little edgy (not knocking them, these were some fucking kooky kids) and decided to go tactical: A sniper takes the one at the door, SWAT breaks through the back room AND rushes the now-unprotected front space, and, gods-willing, there would be no casualties. These were, after all, kids.

Some twitch, some inner signal, hell, maybe just nerves, causes the one at the door to lean back at just the right time, and the SWAT sniper's bullet richochets off the metal frame and through the plate glass instead of through the terrorist's head. Startled, he leaped back through the doorway with a yelp and fell to the floor.

The two senior members of their little cadre looked at each other and then activated plan B, running across the row of seated people, firing into them at point-blank range. Screaming obscenities at them as they died.

This was what chenzzo was talking about. My backyard.

This was in Sacramento, CA, when I was, hell, eleven or twelve. Two of the dead attended my church, my parents had lunched with them. Others, just random people, left holes in their classrooms, offices, and lives.

Did that make death realer for me? You betcha.

But did they do it because of the Basketball Diaries or violent video games? Hell, they were gooks, sure, but they went to Rio Americano H.S., spoke English better than any generation of their people before them, and just plain went crazy.

That's the word we're forgetting to use anymore: They just plain went crazy...

...and so they had to be put down.
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post #45 of 69
4/17/00 at 2:31pm
whoa
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post #46 of 69
4/17/00 at 2:36pm
on a side note, Adam is now my role model...
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post #47 of 69
4/17/00 at 2:47pm
Speaking of reality violence, I live about 30 mins. away from D.C., and as some of you might know the IMF(?) protests are going on.

So every five minutes the local news will pop on showing what's going on, who got tear gassed, or who got run over by a copper-cycle.

The funny thing is one of the reporters pointed out to some of the demonstrators that Tim Robbins was walking with the crowd, and some guy goes "I don't give a FUCK...Mission to Mars sucked DICK!"

I was laughing my ass off when I heard that...it's got to be one of the funniest things I've heard said on the 12:00 news.

[This message has been edited by grim_fist (edited 04-17-2000).]
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post #48 of 69
4/17/00 at 2:48pm
It is not well known, but Adam is also Kevin Bacon's role model.
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post #49 of 69
4/17/00 at 2:58pm
...so Tim Robbins stuffed a mink down the guys throat...
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post #50 of 69
4/17/00 at 4:34pm
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"I live about 30 mins. away from D.C., and as some of you might know the IMF(?) protests are going on."

"Should you or any of your protesters be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your existence...."
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