New "TITANIC" DVD in 2005

I sacrifice the last scrap of my masculinity to say:

AWESOME, TOTALLY AWESOME.

That was long overdue. I just hope the guys putting this together aren't as dumb as the people at Paramount who thought it would be a good move to release the highest grossing film of all time (non-adjusted $ of course) in a non-anamorphic version. Geniuses.

Seconded.

If Fox is doing it than I have complete faith in it's awesomeness.

Depends on whether or not Paramount's original home video distribution agreement (the one they scored when they ponied up the $50 million to salve Cameron's ass from Bill Mechanic's wrath) still holds. Domestically, they'd still have the brass ring, but I agree that if Fox were to put it together, it'd be something special.

The Mountain's DVD department is still getting its ass up to scratch with the likes of New Line, Fox (vide the Quadrilogy box), and especially Anchor Bay.

Is anyone going to even bother forking out cash for it??

Yes, I very well might.

Might? Hell, I'll buy it first day. No shame in admitting it.

Fox is handling it. It's 4-discs. Cameron's involved. It's mine.

Hell yes! With that news, it's mine as well.

the wait is going to be long, but worth it. been holding off on buying the flick - especially in light of some retail stores selling it at discount.

Paramount has American rights, Fox has the rest of the world. Same disc everywhere, I would imagine.

I hope we get the deleted chase sequence in the flooded dining room.

I think the extras will be what gets me to buy it. I have some real problems with some of the acting and dialogue, but Cameron gets as much right in the film as he gets wrong, so I'll probably get it.

One disc will be devoted to Celine Dion and that insufferable song.

Hmm I am such a tolet paper to ass when it comes to Cameron dvd's. Sometimes I slide right through them, maybe learning something, kinda cracking a smile. And sometimes I just get stuck, and get nothing.


We'll see.

Geeze, Cameron, Hollywood needs you, not the sea.

Id pony up for this, and if there is any justice in the world they will put the ghosts of the abyss documentarry as part of the special features.

That'd be righteous. Its Cameron and I respect this film not for the main characters mind you but for the rest of it. I'm curious about this.

"Is anyone going to even bother forking out cash for it??"
Considering that it's the most sucessful film of all time, I would say yes.
This is the kind of thing that drives me nuts about fandom: Geek Tunnel vision in which nothing exists outside of Geekdom. It's fine not to like Titanic, but to deny it has been an enxtrordinary sucess and has a huge following would be silly. This SE is going to go very well, depend on it.
I think Titanic is only pretty good as a movie, but this over the top hatred for it by some geeks reaches the realm of the silly.
Actually it's pretty apparent that some kind of an SE has been in the works for some time,considering the bare bones content of the original DVD release.
Some of the deleted scenes have already been seen in a CD Rom Documentary Cameron did on "Titanic". It was mainly "Historical Background" stuff with no scenes featuring the major actors except for Bernard Hill. It will be interesting to see the new Winslet-Di-Capio stuff to see if the gives the charecters any more depth..the lack there of being one of the main flaws of the film.
For my money I wish Cameron would have concentrated more on the actual history of the Titanic and less on the rather predictable love story. What actually happened is a lot more interesting then the Di Capio/Winslet romance.....

So? Who gives a crap. That movie was three hours of pain and is being used to torture Sadaam Hussein as we speak.

I'll probably buy this because even though i have to reaslly really realllllllyyyy be in the mood to watch it i do sometimes get the urge simply because i saw it at a time in my life where this was the first HUGE movie event i'd experienced (i mean it just kept going and going and going). I'm really interested in the extras too, i always thought it sucked that the DVD for such a commercially successful film would get the bare-bones treatment.

Cool. I'm definitely gonna pick this up.

Everyone should check out the book TITANIC AND THE MAKING OF JAMES CAMERON for a very thorough (though not nearly as thorough as THE DEVIL'S CANDY) inside look at the production. It gives you that much more appreciation for the movie and Cameron. The guy nearly kills himself on every film and its why I have blind dedictation to him and his films, because they are so far removed from the vile, greedy, assembly line process of the hollywood studio system.

Thanks for the recommendation, Colt. That sounds like an interesting read.

I find it strange that it's become so universally acceptable to shit on a James Cameron film, and that a film by the director of Terminator and Aliens is now regarded as a guilty pleasure if at all.

There were love stories in film long before Titanic and there have been since. This film was so successful because since the Titanic sank, people have been reading about that night in 1912 and seeing it illustrated in paintings. James Cameron brought the paintings and mental imagery to life and it was, briefly, exhilarating. People turned against it pretty quickly after hearing The Ugly Canadian sing one too many times.

Titanic has some great visuals; awesome shots of the ship sinking and some truely emotional moments, like when the rescuers arrive to see all of the dead people floating in the water.

My only quibble with the flick are it's two leads. Retardo DeCrapio has never been a favorite of mine and he clinched the deal with this. Winslet is an odd one. I don't find her attractive in any way whatsoever as an actress or just as a female. Nadda.

I think why I continue to like this film is Cameron himself. This is a DIRECTORS movie if there ever was one. That arrogant, mean-sprited ass that the press loves to pick on is on display here as he makes the best movie he can.

It's also your typical underdog story. For months the so-called experts predicted it would sink Cameron's career when it didn't meet its July 97 release date, but then he showed them all. By April 98, it had been number one since its release in mid-December. Not bad.

Aside from the French twat's worbbling, it's a keeper.

I just wish he would stop wasting time and get off his ass and work!

Let's not be illogical about this. It's just stupid to call this movie bad. No way in hell does it even approach bad. The disc is worth it just for the ship sinking.

There is a difference between not liking something simply because you do not like it and disliking something because its bad.

Let us not confuse the two.

Just because you do not like something does not mean its bad, it just means you do not like it. THATS IT.

And I find it disturbing to justify this craptastic film just because of the successes of said film-maker.

I shit on Titanic because it is Titanic, not a film by James Cameron.

I hated the film ergo I will not buy or watch this film again. It could have been directed by Scorsese, Coppola or Spielburg. Who directed only matters in the quality of the film, not whether or not I hate on a film.

Being blind to the faults of a director's creation just because he made something cool and awesome in the past is something more shameful.

"Lucas raped my childhood" fanboys can attest to that.

Much of the template for this picture wass laid down in Roy Baker's fantastic A Night To Remember - the details on board ship, the disparity between classes, the British arrogance at the unfathomability of the whole affair, even down to the facial expressions of the officers who see the head of the White Star Line company sneaking onto a half full life boat. It's all there in a picture from 50 years previous. And Cameron would be a liar if he didn't acknowldge that fact. I'm sure he does, if only that he used all the same empirical evidence to draw upon for his story.

And Titanic captures this evocation pretty much spot on. All the "clunky" exposition and the love story and charming throwbacks of emotion are directly inspired by the 1954 picture, I feel. It's as if it's one other story from the same picture that is now being chosen to be focussed upon. Only now with a bigger budget, more technical pizzazz and a Swiss warbled ballad.

Though of course, it's now not cool to say that that kind of old fashioned story telling is something a certain type of film fan likes or can be seen to like. Which is sort of sad. For you I mean, not for the picture's fans nor the film itself, nor Cameron.

I'll be picking this up, of course.

Brilliants posts Zod I agree. Yeah I remember during the release of this film my mother talked to me about being a young girl and watching A Night To Remember in theaters another nice post Strax.

Jeez, there's not much facial expressions that can be had when shit like this happens. Did you expect the officers to react like Alfalfa: "Ah chucks Spanky, I could've gone in the boat with Carla...?"

Seen it ? Doubt it. Know what you're talking about ? More doubtful still.

You need to watch more films, genius. And gain some perspective, insight and critical acuity.

Grammar lessons might help too

I wasn't justifying it because it's a James Cameron film. In fact I didn't justify it until the post that followed. In the eyes of some people, Titanic deserves to be shit upon. Personally I don't feel that way, because I'm used to its kind of storytelling from years of old movies.

I just think it's amazing that one filmmaker can attract such polar opposites in adulation and derision. Many people would get the knives out if you dare take issue with some of the cheesy posturing in Aliens (a movie which I still enjoy) but Titanic is absolutely, unforgivably, criminally bad...

I'm still not sure if I'll pick up the DVD.

This is every bit as old-fashioned as Gone With the Wind, yet that gets praised as a classic while Titanic gets slagged as something only crazed teenage girls would like. Anybody but Cameron directs it, and I bet the fanboys don't even pay attention to it; however, his name on it makes them wonder how the guy who did Terminator and Aliens could do a love story when the strength of BOTH those films was the HUMANS at the center of them. Replace the iceberg with a horde of aliens and he's really telling very similar stories.

And one has naked Arnold dingle-dangling, the other has Kate Winslet's lovelies.

I don't like Aliens, I hate Titanic, and I am aloof to Terminators 1 & 2: The story is cool, the effects for the time are eh, but I won't sit down and watch the films unless they happen to be on TV and there's nothing else on.

I'm not a big Cameron fan, but I do know that Titanic is some dribbled love fest that give fat chicks hope in that maybe they can bang someone who looks like Leo DiCaprio. I know this chick who saw it in the theaters 24 times (i kid you not) and she was....heavy set and her reason was that she loved "the story". Sure she loved it like a fat kid loves oreo brownies.

I shite upon the film because it deserves to be shited upon.

Now it sounds like you "shite upon" the film because of its popularity.

"Anybody but Cameron directs it, and I bet the fanboys don't even pay attention to it;"
I can' t agree with you on this point (though I do with most of your post); I think the main reason the film draws such hatred from the fanboys is that it commited two unforgivable sins:
A. It booted "Star Wars:ANH" from the #1 spot in box office and
B. It was basically a love story.
But I agree that by making it Cameron drew a lot of hate upon himself. But I think the hatred for the film would have been anyway.
"Titanic is some dribbled love fest "
So all love stories are automatically shit? If you want to maintain that Titanic was not a very good Love Story you have a legitimate argument, but to damn all Love Stories because they are "chick flicks" is the kind of thing that makes me avoid being called a fan at times.

What amazes me is the depth of hatred for this film you just do not see for other films deemed bad by geekdom. Something more then "Titanic"s flaws as a film...and IMHO it has many...is at work here.

No, it's cookie cutter love story is so ick. Someone on another thread said that life is Rated R. This story is so PG that it's unrealistic. Maybe Cameron romaticizes it too much, with it being a period piece, but it is just so bland and dull. Poor boy meets rich girl, falls in love and has to overcome rich boyfriend to win her heart? Come on, too many bad movies have that damn plot.

The only saving grace to the whole thing would be the damn boat, but it takes FOREVER for the damn thing to sink. It's not like Superman is going to come and at the last minute save the day.

That same girl told me, "Once, I wished that I went to see it and somehow, someway they survived."

<insert "Huh?" smilie> I just stared at her and said, "It's based on a true story and that story didn't end well."

She said, "I know. But, I can dream can't I?"

<shook my head and walked away>

Maybe that's the sign of a good movie, maybe that's some girl's geek fantasy. I don't know. But one thing was for sure:

They die.

Why couldn't he just let them die after an hour and a half. They got to shag. He was king of the world. Good for them. Stop dragging it out.

And the old chick at the end pissed me off. She throws a necklace that could very well pay for the college tuition of all her succeeding generation after inflation and time into a F'N OCEAN?

WTF? And the ending? Oh yes, heaven is the Carnival cruise line and God is Kathie Lee Gifford waiting to play shuffleboard with you. What a crock.

But, I guess I could be wrong, since I am on CHUD and dissenting opinions are not looked at as "cool".

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But, I guess I could be wrong, since I am on CHUD and dissenting opinions are not looked at as "cool"."
Hey, in the world of Geekdom to like "Titanic" is a dissenting opinion.
And I hate to say it, B.G, but your post sounded like a thousand other "Titanic sucks" Geek threads.
IMHo "Titanic" is a good movie, but not a great one.

Fuck the cookie cutter love story, you're missing the whole point of Titanic. The man who is arguably the greatest special effects director of all time used the most cutting edge FX technology available to re-create the sinking of the Titanic in real time. If that's not good enough for you, touch dick.

Also, Kate Winslet's delicious booblies.

I believe the term is Booblers...she's from England, ya know.

Cameron went above and beyond to do the research and lovingly recreate the titanic with more detail than ten of your greatest directors. He sacrificed his salary because he believed in the project as an artist and the result a fantasic blend of old school storytelling and the finest, seamless effects you're ever to find. I love this movie as well because of these and many other reasons. The first time I saw it, I was just in shock at how beautifully it all came together and for that reason, I was sure it was going to fail (also the budget)

Jack, don't play the part of the oppressed. You are in the majority opinion on sites like this and as mentioned, your feelings mirror those of many other geeks who for whatever reason hate this film. For many others though, the historical details, the F/X and the compelling story of not just Jack and Rose, but of the other famous passenger are more than enough to love this near perfect movie.

I love Titanic and I refuse to apolgize to anyone. I love it so much I'll run home and throw it in the DVD player as soon as I get home on the Tuesday it comes out. And you know what? I'll still keep my fingers crossed that the damn boat doesn't run into the iceberg too!

No, wait a second: that part of the movie I actually apprieciate! The story kills it for me. Yes, it was in real time but it was too long for me. You know what: My attention span is gone down the tubes. I guess it is tough d***. I wish Cameron would tackle the X-Men or Daredevil. That would own b/c of his nack for Special Effects.

Cameron is good, but not one of my "must see directors".

But, I will see his new film about the oceans because that LOOKS GOOD.

EDIT:
Well, I have this time machine for sale if you are interested...Works with your own electrical outlet.

I always liked the term "Buzzwhams" myself. Seldom used but a good one.

I gotta agree.

Even though the romantic stuff made me a queasy at times its still a very well made movie with awesome effects.

It's about damn time.

I'll be buying this the first day.

Excellent stuff.

A great soundtrack besides. Some of James Horner's best work, second only to his Braveheart soundtrack.