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post #1 of 35
1/17/05 at 11:13pm
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I Love classic trek and the films and enjoy discussing the spinoffs, as mixed as I feel about most of them, if anyone's up for it, I'm game, but let's not turn it into a war.

I guess I'd have to ask first, What are your favorite episodes from the original series, lets do the first season first and start there.

Mine-
Space Seed
The Naked Time
The Squire of Gothos
Tomorrow is Yesterday
City on the Edge of Forever
Balance of Terror
Shore Leave
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post #2 of 35
1/17/05 at 11:35pm
I love my Trek. I've got 'em all, every season set released, and every motion picture. I've just recently watched the original series for the first time in MANY years.

My fav of the 1st season:

The Man Trap
Where No Man Has Gone Before
The Enemy Within
Dagger of the Mind
Corbomite Maneuver
Balance of Terror
Arena
Court Martial
A Taste of Armageddon
The Devil in the Dark
Errand of Mercy
The City of the Edge of Forever

It's interesting that we only have two in common...
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post #3 of 35
1/17/05 at 11:42pm
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I got all three seasons for Christmas, and I've been gorging myself on them, managed to finally see the dozen or so I've missed, the Packaging is awesome, I just wish all the other series were boxed that way.

I love damn near every episode, when I did my list I tried to think of episodes that I'd use to persuade people into watching trek, I should have mentioned that.

Dagger of the Mind has one of the hottest Trek Females in it, I'm thinking of doing a top ten list of Classic Trek babes after this thread gets going.

Court Martial is a killer episode as well, as are most of the ones where one of Kirk's former Starfleet relations turn misguided. And the Balok puppet from Corbomite Maneuver is killer looking
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post #4 of 35
1/17/05 at 11:54pm
First of all, when I say "every season set released", I don't mean of the original series. I mean all of it. Next Gen, DSN, Voyager ...

I don't understand the love for Space Seed, honestly. I love Wrath of Khan, but Space Seed falls terribly flat.

I hope others will join the discussion.
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post #5 of 35
1/18/05 at 12:09am
Balance of Terror is pretty good, and I've always had a soft spot for Plato's Stepchildren, but the Trouble with Tribbles is my favorite.

The only time Shatner does comedy well... intentionally.
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post #6 of 35
1/18/05 at 12:11am
You've named 1 from each season!
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post #7 of 35
1/18/05 at 1:24am
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Tribbles was damn funny, especially Scotty belting the Klingon after he insults the Enterprise herself, not the capatain. His finest moment, tied in my mind with when he and all of his Booze puts one of the Kelvans under the table in By any Other Name. "What is it?"..."Its..Green"
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post #8 of 35
1/18/05 at 1:11pm
Ok I gotta get in on this action! One of my favorite classic Trek episode has to be Amok Time. You know, the one where Kirk and Spock fight each other in the Vulcan gladiator arena? I just dig the whole mano-a-mano thing and that cool ass Star Trek "danger" music that plays throughout the confrontation.

Reminds me of the scene from The Cable Guy where Jim Carrey invokes the episode.

"Duh-duh-duh-duh-dud-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh-duh!"
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post #9 of 35
1/18/05 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by Eye_H8_U
I just dig the whole mano-a-mano thing and the cools ass Start Trek "danger" music that plays throughout the confrontation.
The best use of this music was in the Futurama episode where it plays as Dr. Zoidberg's home planet's national anthem.
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post #10 of 35
1/18/05 at 2:48pm
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Amok Time was great, with some of the best bloopers in the series, like Nimoy casually relaxing when he's supposed to be in Plak Tow and the very visible appearance of the overhead lights illuminating the set. I also like that Spock seems slightly annoyed when he tells T'pau that he sees no logical reason for her to prefer Ston over himself.
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post #11 of 35
1/18/05 at 8:30pm
"City on the Edge of Forever" is my all time favorite episode. I have been watching through the first season again on DVD, and also found that I'm fond of "The Conscience of the King"... Maybe that's because Star Trek (or anything?) works pretty well when unabashedly copping from Shakespeare.
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post #12 of 35
1/19/05 at 2:20am
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Originally Posted by Hair-Metal Hero

Dagger of the Mind has one of the hottest Trek Females in it, I'm thinking of doing a top ten list of Classic Trek babes after this thread gets going.
Hottest Trek chick for me will always be Sherry Jackson as Andrea in "What Little Girls are Made Of". One of my favorite episodes...Ted Cassidy as Rok..."Im tired of your half bred interferances Mr. Spock!" I love it!

also Ted Cassidy was the voice of a couple of aliens in ST...notably the Gorn, and (puppet) Balok.

speaking of the Gorn...ARENA!!! look...its Vasquez Rock....again...

Anyone here a fan of Nerf Herder?
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post #13 of 35
1/19/05 at 2:05pm
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Sherry Jackson was Trek-a-licious, her outfit, like many of the outfits on Trek was super erotic. Thank You Wialliam Theiss!
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post #14 of 35
1/19/05 at 6:56pm
I remember seeing some of the old Trek eps when I was younger, thanks to my dad. LOL - he even used to call me "Bones". But I grew up watching The Next Generation, and have nothing but love for it. I don't even consider myself a Trekkie.

TNG eps I like the most:

Any episode with Q
Any episode with Deanna vs her mother
The Best of Both Worlds (both parts)
Transfigurations
The Game
I Borg (good ol' Hugh T. Borg)

There's a lot more, but don't feel like listing them all right now.
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post #15 of 35
1/19/05 at 8:20pm
The original series has some great episodes ('Balance of Terror' = rockage) but TNG kills it every time. And not just cause it actually had a budget.
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post #16 of 35
1/19/05 at 8:40pm
Oops - just read the first couple of posts. Didn't realize that this was a thread devoted to Classic Trek. I wasn't trying to derail the thread or anything.
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post #17 of 35
1/19/05 at 11:12pm
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Picard and Deanna made it extremely hard for me to even get into next gen for a LOOONG time. Troi is a worthless character and Picard is just so damn old and wimpy 90% of the time(the movies and a few killer plotlines made this different, but overall, I'd rather serve under Kirk). Riker, Worf and Data were killer though. I understand that having the captain on away missions is dumb, but thats what made the originals so cool, it was the man of action(Kirk), the man of reason(Spock) and the man of heart(Bones) together. None of them were as strong or complete alone as they were together. I never got that from Next Gen. That being said, there is enough Next Gen stuff that I love to consider myself a fan of it, but I remember seeing Picard for the first time and saying what the hell is that, then when the Ferengi were supposed to be the big new threat, I said to myself again, what the hell? I'm not one of those guys that gets into which is better, I love classic trek a ton, and the next gen when it hit its stride was great tv(even season 7 which tons of fans hated). Nicholas Meyer said it best when he said that when Star Trek is Gunboat Diplomacy it works the best, I guess that is what made it hard for me to grab on to next gen initially.
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post #18 of 35
1/20/05 at 1:09am
Never been a big Trek fan, but I salute Kirk's impressive score of fabulous 60s pussy.


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post #19 of 35
1/20/05 at 4:06am
Love the original. BEST Sci-fi series----ever!


It beat TNG for the simple fact of Mr. fucking Spock! He's my boy. Can't get enough of the Kirk/Spork/Bones trifecta.

Kirk is the muscles. Spock the Brain. McCoy the heart. THIS is what makes the show for me.


The first season is all gold, but my absolute favorties are:

The Galileo Seven
Errand of Mercy
City of the Edge of Forever
Return of the Archons
Devil in the Dark


I love the original series just for its wonderful flow of ideas. Great imagination for a tiny amount of money, although to be fair, for 1960's coin, it was a decent amount. The writers really seemed to have a grasp on what true science-fiction is/was. I miss that.

A sign of the times when a series like the new and unimproved "Battlestar Galactica" has millions at its disposal and remains about as interesting as a silent fart. *sigh*


VIVA LA KIRK!
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post #20 of 35
1/20/05 at 4:12am
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Originally Posted by Hair-Metal Hero
Sherry Jackson was Trek-a-licious, her outfit, like many of the outfits on Trek was super erotic. Thank You Wialliam Theiss!

Joan Collins, circa 1967, before being ruined, is one of the prettiest faces I have ever seen.
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post #21 of 35
1/20/05 at 2:52pm
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who is missing the appeal of the New Battlestar Galactica, its dull as dishwater, but the ships and effects are cool.
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post #22 of 35
1/20/05 at 10:30pm
Nah, HMH, the show stinks. Contrived as all hell, but again, it's about as interesting as watching golf in slow-motion.

But, some folks are digging it so let them have their fun.
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post #23 of 35
1/20/05 at 10:31pm
Nah, HMH, the show stinks. Contrived as all hell, but again, it's about as interesting as watching golf in slow-motion.

I could maybe get into it if they would LEAVE THAT FUCKING CAMERA STILL!

But, some folks are digging it so let them have their fun.
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post #24 of 35
1/21/05 at 1:27am
I'm not all that terribly keen on the *original* Battlestar, for that matter.

The show was a victim of Glen Larson and Leslie Stevens, and of a disinclination to purchase scripts from scriptwriters, literate SF folks, or other competent persons in general.

When you get a studio to spend over six million dollars on a 2.5-air-hour "opening night," you are *not* a victim of production costs. The incredible ineptitude of the scriptwriting, the utter lack of competent SF and scientific advice, the complete disdain for work already done in the field, and the complete lack of respect for their viewing public....THESE were what did in Galactica.

The pilot script made it abundantly clear that Stevens and Larson didn't know the difference between "solar system" and "galaxy," or care. The only one doing competent work in the whole thing was the Director of Photography who handled Jane Seymour's sequences...he kept her in focus.

The show never had a technical advisor, unless you count the time they paid a guy from the L.A. Fire Dept. to "consult" on safe procedures for opening doors in a burning building. (This was for a script where the Galactica was.......ON FIRE. Right. That's what I said. On fire. In space. Burning.) As it now stands, I can stomach the new incarnation far better; Ron Moore has enough respect for the purported intelligence of his audience to avoid pandering schlock, and given these two Carnivale seasons he's overseen, he *might* be the next Joe Straczynski (provided he can avoid having Carnivale taken to the Big Screen and then recast by the rat-pack of Studio Suit in charge).
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post #25 of 35
1/23/05 at 4:03pm
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alright.....favorite classic trek babes anyone? I'll mull over mine before I post them.
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post #26 of 35
1/23/05 at 4:12pm
The whole point about GALACTICA was that it was like SW, as in it didn't pay attention to science because it was more about entertainment. I agree it wasn't great, but it had a charm and a sense of fun, something the new series lacks immensely.
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post #27 of 35
1/23/05 at 4:25pm

And before anyone makes any wisercracks, I'm talking about the one on the left.
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post #28 of 35
1/23/05 at 4:27pm
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you got to watch out for those Kanutu women though, they'll control you. Wait, that could be any chick.
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post #29 of 35
1/28/05 at 9:34pm
Jeez, where to begin? The OG Star Trek was in reruns throughout my tender years (right before dinner, on KTVU in Oakland), and I probably watched it every afternoon out of habit...lines of Roddenberry's dialogue are etched into my brain, whether I want 'em there or not. The sight of Angelique Pettyjohn in a weird, krinkly silver bikini still moves me like few things can.

Favorite episodes: "Wolf in the Fold" (Scotty accused of murder, plenty of creepy fogbound atmosphere, and a spooky alien medium who leads the crew in a seance); "Mirror, Mirror" (Spock sprouts a goatee, Sulu grows a dueling scar and all the world's turned topsy-turvy); "The City on the Edge of Forever" (best dialogue in a Trek episode, ever, with a wigged out McCoy and radiant Joan Collins), and "Balance of Terror" (war of the nerves with Romulans--lots of tension and suspicion amongst the crew). Even the hokier episodes like "Who Mourns for Adonais" or "The Omega Glory" reel me in. What about "The Man Trap?" Sheer brilliance, and the best use of a saltshaker as McGuffin ever.

Yeah, the '66-'69 series didn't always scale to lofty heights, but I still buy into those characters and stories more than any of the Next Generation stuff that followed them (as good as they often were).
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post #30 of 35
1/28/05 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by Hair-Metal Hero
alright.....favorite classic trek babes anyone? I'll mull over mine before I post them.

Joan Collins and Jill Ireland!

Before Hollywood spoiled them rotten, they were the bees knees.
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post #31 of 35
1/28/05 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by Charles B
The whole point about GALACTICA was that it was like SW, as in it didn't pay attention to science because it was more about entertainment. I agree it wasn't great, but it had a charm and a sense of fun, something the new series lacks immensely.
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Bingo. I don't care about science or parsacs or sound in space, I want a fun, entertaining show and this new series is neither of those.

It's what the action movie is plagued with right now- prentitousness.

It's a soap opera in space, only much more contrived and dull. Where are the gadgets and the clever effects? The interesting mythology? The cool costumes and of course the robotic CYLONS? Skanks pretending to be robots is fucking cheap and stupid and not terribly compelling. That's the best they can do? That's their topper? THAT shit is better than one-eyed bots with swords?

My biggest gripe is that the new series has no distinctive qualities of its own. It resembles everything and has nothing of its own to offer.

That said I might be able to get past all that shit of they would LEAVE THAT FUCKING CAMERA STILL!
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post #32 of 35
1/29/05 at 5:14pm
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I can't believe Farscape gets cancelled for shit like Battlestar and Stargate: Suck Dick 1 and Stargate: Asslantis
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post #33 of 35
1/30/05 at 12:36pm






SCARED ME SHITLESS...when I was 3 1/2...

Still one of my faves, though.
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post #34 of 35
1/30/05 at 6:48pm
Eaten by a giant, glowing reefer.

That's certainly enough to scare me.
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post #35 of 35
1/31/05 at 12:38am
I always loved how whenever Kirk ran into some fellow Captains, they were always ape shit crazy.
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