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post #51 of 55
1/26/05 at 5:45am
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I'm pretty skeptical myself. But to say that all there is to reality is what we can prove with our senses and science seems.... I don't know. Somewhat dumb. Same with the belief that we are alone in the universe.

Anyhow, I'm really curious about that movie Communion, I'd never heard of it before. Now, I have to watch it. Even though I may regret it later on that night.

So any of you intelligent-alien-lifeform nay sayers got any explanations for shit like how the pyramids were created, crop circles, cow mutilations? How about a challenge: explain to me how and to what purpose the Lines of Nazca were created for?

Not saying that Grays or other aliens had a hand in these things, but without some sort of 'supernatural' means, how have some of these things come to be? Especially considering certain small yet important details. Such as the differences in hoax crop circles and 'real' ones. The facts about cow mutilations and the fact that the government's only comment or report has been that 'coyotes' are to blame?

I guess I just want to read some rational explanations for these things. Especially for the Lines of Nazca.
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post #52 of 55
1/26/05 at 6:32am
I saw a great Bill Bailey sketch on Crop Circles, he suggested we combine the fear of GM foods with crops cricles to make wheat that had the properties of velcro. Then we could find out what was making the bloddy things.
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post #53 of 55
1/26/05 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by cyberwaste
I guess I just want to read some rational explanations for these things. Especially for the Lines of Nazca.
Ahem. Nevermind.
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post #54 of 55
1/26/05 at 1:36pm
Alien visitation is not as far-fetched as it once seemed: link

An excerpt:

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ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood

By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 14 January 2005
06:47 am ET


Decades ago, it was physicist Enrico Fermi who pondered the issue of extraterrestrial civilizations with fellow theorists over lunch, generating the famous quip: "Where are they?" That question later became central to debates about the cosmological census count of other star folk and possible extraterrestrial (ET) visitors from afar.

Fermi’s brooding on the topic was later labeled "Fermi’s paradox". It is a well-traveled tale from the 1950’s when the scientist broached the subject in discussions with colleagues in Los Alamos, New Mexico. Thoughts regarding the probability of earthlike planets, the rise of highly advanced civilizations "out there", and interstellar travel -- these remain fodder for trying to respond to Fermi’s paradox even today.

Now a team of American scientists note that recent astrophysical discoveries suggest that we should find ourselves in the midst of one or more extraterrestrial civilizations. Moreover, they argue it is a mistake to reject all UFO reports since some evidence for the theoretically-predicted extraterrestrial visitors might just be found there.

The researchers make their proposal in the January/February 2005 issue of the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society (JBIS).

Curious situation

Pick up any good science magazine and you’re sure to see the latest in head-scratching ideas about superstring theory, wormholes, or the stretching of spacetime itself. Meanwhile, extrasolar planetary detection is on the verge of becoming mundane.

"We are in the curious situation today that our best modern physics and astrophysics theories predict that we should be experiencing extraterrestrial visitation, yet any possible evidence of such lurking in the UFO phenomenon is scoffed at within our scientific community," contends astrophysicist Bernard Haisch.

Haisch along with physicists James Deardorff, Bruce Maccabee and Harold Puthoff make their case in the JBIS article: "Inflation-Theory Implications for Extraterrestrial Visitation".

The scientists point to two key discoveries made by Australian astronomers and reported last year that there is a "galactic habitable zone" in our Milky Way Galaxy. And more importantly that Earth’s own star, the Sun, is relatively young in comparison to the average star in this zone -- by as much as a billion years.

Therefore, the researchers explain in their JBIS article that an average alien civilization would be far more advanced and have long since discovered Earth. Additionally, other research work on the supposition underlying the Big Bang -- known as the theory of inflation -- shores up the prospect, they advise, that our world is immersed in a much larger extraterrestrial civilization.
Full article available at link above.
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post #55 of 55
1/26/05 at 1:50pm
A populated galaxy is a neat idea, but there's no reason to expect that we should've been detected by now because there aren't any candidate stars within the 100 lightyears or so in which our signals can be detected. The gravitational effect Jupiter has on the sun is going to drown out any effect Earth has, so there's no real reason to suspect a reasonably warm planet with a liquid water surface orbits our sun. And even if we are sitting in the heart of the Vorlon Empire, and even if we'd been having conversations with them for decades, that wouldn't prove any claims of visitations or abductions are true. I'd need to see a UFO being dissected and subjected to spectrographic analysis before I believe in that wacky stuff.

I'll stick with being dubious about the whole thing.
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