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post #6551 of 6891
I like what Carpenter has to say.
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

I've admired Carpenter for the majority of my 35 years on this planet and if I were in Kevin Feige's position, I would under no circumstances entrust a $150 million property to him. He's not who he used to be and that's been true for more than two decades now.
I guess I just hate the thought of reaching a point in one's life where the spark you once had is truly extinguished and nothing could ever possibly get it going again.

I've always hated that his filmography is comprised almost entirely of cult classics. None of his stuff, save Halloween, was ever given the love it all deserved so much at the time of release. Most all of his movies had to simmer for years on video shelves and in pop culture consciousness before the general consensus started leaning in their favor. Being such a huge fan of his....my hope for him, at the very LEAST, is that he's truly aware of how revered he is now and that his films are finally so beloved...pretty much all of them to varying degrees. You're more than likely correct with what you said Jacknife....but if through some crazy twist of fate something like that DID happen, I don't think any of us would be uninterested in seeing the results. Might be great...might be awful....but would definitely be interesting to watch unfold..

*silly sentimentality moment over*
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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

I've admired Carpenter for the majority of my 35 years on this planet and if I were in Kevin Feige's position, I would under no circumstances entrust a $150 million property to him. He's not who he used to be and that's been true for more than two decades now.

 

Balance of power is such that Marvel has the control here. There's obviously parameters anyone directing has to follow which makes sense as they both have a winning formula and the final product has to integrate into the overall whole (see everything to do with Ant-Man in that regard and also Ava DuVernay in relation to Black Panther). It's the Marvel brand, not the director's name who is selling it. I bet you most of us could name at least most of the people who directed MCU films but in the general public, much less so.

post #6554 of 6891
Yes, I know that. Marvel may approach filmmakers asking for "That Barton Fink feeling...", but Favreau, Branagh, etc, clearly do more than just yell action and cut.

If something like the stories that came off the set of The Ward are true, then Marvel would almost certainly be saddled with cleaning up whatever mess he created. I hate to say that about the man, but by his own admission, he's lost interest in being a filmmaker.

You could possibly risk offering him an episode or two of whatever genre television show is happening right now, but that's as far as I'd go.
post #6555 of 6891
I gotta see The Ward ASAP. Just so curious. I have a hard time processing that the Carpenter of old is gone, never to return.

But then again, he probably has more reason to just say "you know what? Fuck this shit. I'm tired of it." than any other director that I can think of..
post #6556 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

I gotta see The Ward ASAP. Just so curious. I have a hard time processing that the Carpenter of old is gone, never to return.

But then again, he probably has more reason to just say "you know what? Fuck this shit. I'm tired of it." than any other director that I can think of..

 

Well, let's not get carried away now. I thought it was perfectly serviceable but it doesn't re-invent the wheel or anything. I mean, I watched the first half of it in French because I couldn't originally find a copy with the English audio track so that probably gives you an idea about how much of a rush I was in to find it.

post #6557 of 6891
My curiosity doesn't have anything to do with thinking it's gonna be some GREAT film. I have a feeling I'm gonna have a very 'meh' reaction to it. It's just that it's a Carpenter movie I've not seen and that makes me more eager than I normally would be..
post #6558 of 6891
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

I just realized that John Carpenter directed the Chevy Chase movie Memoirs of an Invisible Man. I saw this when I was a kid so that didn't mean much back then and now I feel compelled to rewatch it. I don't suppose there's a region A/unlocked blu of this movie, is there? I'm searching but I haven't found one yet.

Also, found out just now that Ghosts of Mars (which I have a huge soft spot for...don't judge me) was, in fact, NOT the last movie Carpenter ever directed. He did one rather recently called The Ward. I wanna hear opinions on this movie. Is it shitty? Does it feel like Carpenter at all? Worth even checking out? I don't know how I managed to go this long without knowing of it's existence but I'm about 2 seconds away from blind buying it unless I hear it's just GODawful. It ain't expensive so it wouldn't be a huge loss if it was...but still.

I was gonna pick up Escape from LA on blu until I saw that an unused copy on Amazon goes for nearly 900 goddamned dollars. Guess I missed the boat on that one. Sons of bitches. WHERE DOES ONE GET THESE MOVIES ONCE THIS HAPPENS?! I'm assuming eBay has it going for ridiculous amounts as well..

Look for the piece William Goldman wrote about working on the script for Memoirs in his book "Which Lie Did I Tell?"

Chase wanted to make a straight-faced movie about "the loneliness of invisibility" people were scared to go near it. Ivan Reitman was approached at one point. They were at one point going to make it a comedy.

I still love the movie. It's scifi meets Hitchcock, and Chase does a fine job in my opinion. It just doesn't feel like Carpenter.

Fraid, look at the original music he has been recording and touring with, it is outstanding.

If they could've grabbed Carpenter to do the first Ghost Rider movie about 15 years ago, set in the 70s, Johnny Blaze era, 45-50 million budget, Carpenter doing the score.. Fuck yeah.
post #6559 of 6891
I been preaching for years that a Carpenter directed/Kurt Russell starring Ghost Rider made around '82-'85 woulda been incredible..
post #6560 of 6891
Oh hell yeah. I'm so pissed that the two we got weren't up to snuff.

Well, I never saw the second one but, damn, did it look bad.
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The Ward is just....ok. I only watched it for the Carpenter connection, but it really has nothing that makes it stand out as something he would be attached to. It's not offensively bad or anything, just very average.

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Oh hell yeah. I'm so pissed that the two we got weren't up to snuff.

Well, I never saw the second one but, damn, did it look bad.
The second Ghost Rider is WAY worse than the first if you can fathom that. I'm not being hyperbolic at all by saying it's one of the worst, most incoherent things ever. Makes stuff like Thor 2 (which I like) look like Doctor Zhivago.
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The Ward is just....ok. I only watched it for the Carpenter connection, but it really has nothing that makes it stand out as something he would be attached to. It's not offensively bad or anything, just very average.
The further I temper my expectations....the more it can only help this movie once I actually get to watch it..
post #6563 of 6891
Apparently the crew could hardly be fucked to get Carpenter out of his trailer half the time.

Always stoned and playing NBA Live.
post #6564 of 6891
Imagine if Carpenter in that mode had directed Snipes in Blade Trinity. The director and star might've never even met!

...or they'd have just said fuck this movie and smoked it up together. I rather watch that for two hours than Blade Trinity to be honest..
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Originally Posted by Call Me Roy View Post

Apparently the crew could hardly be fucked to get Carpenter out of his trailer half the time.

Always stoned and playing NBA Live.

I assumed Carpenter's latter career slump was either because of bad luck in getting his projects moving or health issues. Both could be worked around if he got the opportunity. But there isn't a treatment or a magic pill to not giving a shit. Glad to see John enjoying his music career though.
post #6566 of 6891
I listened to "The Lost Themes" and "The Lost Themes II" constantly while I worked on my novel.
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Maybe. We'll see. I just don't care like I used to. I've gotten old. I look back on my career and I'm happy about it. I don't have the same consuming drive that you do when you're young... But you have to let that go. You have to embrace the Zen of life.

 

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Originally Posted by JacknifeJohnny View Post

I've admired Carpenter for the majority of my 35 years on this planet and if I were in Kevin Feige's position, I would under no circumstances entrust a $150 million property to him. He's not who he used to be and that's been true for more than two decades now.

 

Yep. The last thing the MCU needs is someone who's just doing it for the paycheck. 

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I listened to "The Lost Themes" and "The Lost Themes II" constantly while I worked on my novel.

Whenever I have a night drive, it is always on my Spotify playlist.

It was also my late night walking music through Manhatthan while I lived there. Great stuff.
post #6569 of 6891
Looked that up and it's a sure purchase.
post #6570 of 6891
I dig Lost Tapes I & II as well. I don't how much of his him or his son and the other guy, but it's nice to see him as part of a project that engages him. Also, like Bradito, I have used it as a soundtrack when I'm writing.
post #6571 of 6891

I've long maintained that although John Carpenter is one of my favourite directors...I'm glad that he's retired. Especially if his heart is no longer in it. 

 

I much rather he focus on his music (and yes, the Lost Themes albums fantastic) than spend his twilight years directing shitty Escape From New York prequels that needlessly fuck up the mythology...

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Originally Posted by Codename View Post

I've long maintained that although John Carpenter is one of my favourite directors...I'm glad that he's retired. Especially if his heart is no longer in it. 

I much rather he focus on his music (and yes, the Lost Themes albums fantastic) than spend his twilight years directing shitty Escape From New York prequels that needlessly fuck up the mythology...

Yeah Ridley!
post #6573 of 6891
Are we getting a "Lost Themes III?" I need to rewrite this sucker.
post #6574 of 6891
There is at least one Lost Themes remix album that is also pretty good.

Also that band PilotPriest that was linked in the 80s thread will fill the synth void.
Edited by Call Me Roy - 5/14/17 at 1:24pm
post #6575 of 6891
Gunship and Perturbator are also deliciously synthy. Carpenter actually has a monologue that opens a Gunship track.
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Originally Posted by Call Me Roy View Post

There is at least one Lost Themes remix album that is also pretty good.

Also that band PilotPriest that was linked in the 80s thread will fill the synth void.

That 80's thread is so video-heavy it crashes my phone browser. And I keep forgetting to read it at home. Considering my PC's cabinet is off and I have a room fan stuffed against it, it might not work there either...
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Because of this thread I blind(or deaf?)-bought Lost Themes 2. And lo and behold, as I listen to it at work, a terrible project that's been a pain in my arse for the last few weeks (and which I should present next Wednesday) has magically started coming together. Such is the power of Carpenter.

post #6578 of 6891
Hell yeah! That is awesome, glad it made you productive. I made a mix of the two Lost Themes and the soundtrack to The Fog and also Halloween III for DnD sessions when the mood hits. Works great.
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

Also, found out just now that Ghosts of Mars (which I have a huge soft spot for...don't judge me) was, in fact, NOT the last movie Carpenter ever directed. He did one rather recently called The Ward. I wanna hear opinions on this movie. Is it shitty? Does it feel like Carpenter at all? Worth even checking out? I don't know how I managed to go this long without knowing of it's existence but I'm about 2 seconds away from blind buying it unless I hear it's just GODawful. It ain't expensive so it wouldn't be a huge loss if it was...but still.
 

 

The Ward, imho, is pretty awful.  If someone didn't tell you it was directed by Carpenter, you would have no idea that he made it.  It's pretty much a straight-to-DVD movie and could have been made by anybody.  I watched it once and have no desire to ever revisit it.  It's not even frustratingly bad, it's just kind of there.

post #6580 of 6891

Seeing an extended trailer for a semi-professional superhero feature (that shall remain nameless because some of my RL friends are involved with it) made me think that it's really very small details that make or fail to make your film look like, for lack of a better word, a "real film". Like if your close-ups are just a bit too wide. Or your action scene is just one or two shots short. Or if your audio track's dialogue is just 3-6db too quiet. Or your edits hit just few frames off. Or just a few bits of texture or detail missing in your the background. Pretty frustrating actually, especially if you're aware of the amount of work that went into something that still doesn't look like a real film.

post #6581 of 6891

Having seen more than my share of amateur/semi-pro projects in more than forgiving circumstances, I find the two biggest stumbling blocks to be overexposed photography and unprocessed dialogue.

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Those are true, yes. Another one is sloppy editing. I'm not saying you're supposed to be Sergei Eisenstein, but if your film doesn't have a flow, it doesn't matter how many cool lenses or lights you rented.

 

The trailer made me look up Christopher Nolan's FOLLOWING. It's not a great film but it flows very well from the first frame. And probably cost 1/10th of what the aforementioned superhero flick did.

post #6583 of 6891
Let's just get Carpenter to direct the next season of Stranger Things and then he can call it quits.
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Originally Posted by Virtanen View Post
 

Or if your audio track's dialogue is just 3-6db too quiet. 

 

Holy crap does this drive me crazy. Having to constantly increase the volume for dialogue scenes and then suddenly there's an explosion or police sirens or whatever and it shakes the whole house and drives the cats insane. 

post #6585 of 6891
Useless FBI warnings and unskippable trailers on blu rays but they haven't figured out to have an option to choose between reference sound mode versus home viewing (compress the dynamic range and punch up dialogue track).

And no, I do not want to do this manually on my receiever. Spend the tiny amount required to professionally mix the movie.
post #6586 of 6891
Courtesy of Cracked.com:

Lloyd the Bartender from The Shining and Dr. Eldon Tyrell from Blade Runner were the same actor, Joe Turkel.
post #6587 of 6891

Yeah I didn't know until recently either, Reasor. We should join the dumb dumb club. 

post #6588 of 6891
He's also one of the condemned soldiers in Paths of Glory (Kubrick again).
post #6589 of 6891

Armando Iannucci, the creator of The Thick of It, In the Loop, and Veep, also co-created Alan Partridge. So not only is he a master of political satire, but pop-cultural satire as well.

post #6590 of 6891

Woody Allen has been love rivals (or at least dated the same women around the same time) with Al Pacino and Frank Sinatra.  Geek got guts.

post #6591 of 6891
Joe Hill:


Was Billy in CREEPSHOW:


I saw the big grin last night during a rewatch and it just clicked for the first time.
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I'd never seen a picture of Hill before.  He looks exactly like his dad.

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Big time..
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Crikey. It's like King cloned himself. 

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Sam Rockwell is the dude in the first Ninja Turtle film who greets new members at the hideout with "regular or menthol" cigs.

post #6596 of 6891
I'm watching The Lost World right now and I got the strangest sensation that I feel like I kinda see where Downey's Tony Stark came from because Ian Malcolm is giving me some serious déjà vu. Goldblum acts a whole lot like kind of a proto-Stark..
post #6597 of 6891

Of all places....my hometown (where I grew up and graduated from...also hometown of Don Meredith) Mt. Vernon is on a movie poster. Considering it's proximity to Paris and the design of the poster, I'm shocked that I've never noticed this before. Pop. is like 2300 people. Fucking Talco is on a movie poster. That's surreal. I'm pretty sure it's pop. is in the single digits.

I know this means fuck-all to the rest of you but it weirded me out..
post #6598 of 6891

I had a similar reaction when the trailers for SUPER 8 showed my home (and current) town on a map. Most of the story takes place very near here (although a very fictional version of here).

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I had a similar reaction when the trailers for SUPER 8 showed my home (and current) town on a map. Most of the story takes place very near here (although a very fictional version of here).
The weirdest one for me (that's in the actual film) is when (and I know I've mentioned it elsewhere but it still kinda throws me for a loop) is when they are chased into Paris in Transformers 4: The Marky Mark One. Paris isn't very big. Only like 35,000 people. I had to find out later that those scenes were shot hundreds of miles south around Austin because they made it look EXACTLY like Optimus is chased by Lockdown up Hwy 271 and then takes the right Lane away from Paris' business district around the loop. I've been that way countless times. I lived IN Paris for a while and I still thought they must've filmed it there. Got the Lamar county realty car and the 903 area code right as well.

When there's so few people to take notice of those little details...why bother to recreate that actual area enough to fool even someone like me? Unless it just happened to be mostly coincidental..
post #6600 of 6891

I'm guessing someone thought it would be funny to reference one of the great art-house films in a Baybuster. Probably Bruckheimer.

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