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post #1 of 119
2/1/05 at 3:46pm
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I seemed to have spent weeks defending this movie recently. Cause I love it.

Who else is with me?
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post #2 of 119
2/1/05 at 3:57pm
I'll have to re-watch it. But I remember loving that whole escape-desert-city attack sequence.
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post #3 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:05pm
I'm with ya. Hulk is one of my favorites. I can't figure out why so many people hated it, but I thought it was a great translation of the character.
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post #4 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:05pm
You have my steel, sir.
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post #5 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:08pm
I with you.
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post #6 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:12pm
Thought this movie was great....don't understand the hate for it...
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post #7 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:13pm
I am a fellow Hulk defender.
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post #8 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:21pm
I always have, always will.
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post #9 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:23pm
Charter F-in' member
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post #10 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:25pm
Great film. Plodding at times, but a great film.
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post #11 of 119
2/1/05 at 4:54pm
I'm in.
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post #12 of 119
2/1/05 at 5:04pm
Poor 'Hulk', you weren't really all that different from other comic book movies and never looked anything less than beautiful but they really didn't like you, did they. I think you may have unwittingly proved how incredibly closed-minded a lot of us geeks still are. Ah well.
Oh and Hulk, if you make an all-action, hollywood sequel it's going to suck really badly. Just so you know.


Mr B, your enemies are my enemies.
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post #13 of 119
2/1/05 at 5:11pm
This movie is better than me. I love it.
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post #14 of 119
2/1/05 at 5:50pm
In a completely incoherent and Coked-out "review" of this movie, I once described it as "living proof that Ang Lee paid attention at NYU!"

Yes, I'm a fan.
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post #15 of 119
2/1/05 at 5:54pm
loved it.

ang's the man
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post #16 of 119
2/1/05 at 6:03pm
Definitely one of the best comic adaptations....if not the best. Actually, who here also defends the CG Hulk.

Personally, I thought for the most part, ILM's work on the film was revolutionary, especially during the end battle sequence in broad daylight. Just some amazing work by ILM.

I thankful that Ang Lee took a serious approach to this story. It needed it.
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post #17 of 119
2/1/05 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by Don Swoosh
Actually, who here also defends the CG Hulk.
The scene where he's encases in Josh Lucas's goo is pretty poor, but the stuff in the desert is phenomenal. The facial work alone deserves praise. That thing could act.
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post #18 of 119
2/1/05 at 6:30pm
His yell as he rips the top off the tank is pure bliss.
As is the moment when he slips and falls on his ass while tearing apart the university lab.
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post #19 of 119
2/1/05 at 6:44pm
I'm a fan. With a vengence.
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post #20 of 119
2/1/05 at 7:07pm
I love this movie. My favortie moment is probably the part after he's done tearing apart the one tank, he takes the big gun that he's ripped off of it and pats it in his hand like he's a scotsman with a pipe at a football game. He then throws it into the sand with a grunt that just says "MOTHERFUCKER!"

Love it.
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post #21 of 119
2/1/05 at 7:32pm
Love it absolutely love it. A visionary director gives us a unique comic book film.
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post #22 of 119
2/1/05 at 7:35pm
Count me in.
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post #23 of 119
2/1/05 at 7:49pm
This was mentioned in the other thread, but come on, who loved the way they worked in "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry"?
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post #24 of 119
2/1/05 at 8:13pm
Love this movie. People complain about directors not being experimental or innovative but when they do, wide wanton whinging. Well, that's typical www for you.
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post #25 of 119
2/1/05 at 10:42pm
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Originally Posted by Rath/Brendan
This was mentioned in the other thread, but come on, who loved the way they worked in "You wouldn't like me when I'm angry"?
Yeah, but it violated one of Peter David's rules for Comic Book Movies: the film doesn't end with the hero proclaiming "I am ______!"
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post #26 of 119
2/2/05 at 12:11am
Love it lots. Solid drama, great execution of the panel effect, and the way the action scenes are shot have this incredible sense of scale that I've never seen in any other movie. Specifically anything involving the Hulk before, during, and at the end of a leap. Mind blowing. However, the last 15 minutes are a disappointment. The monster battle is hard-to-follow and leaves me very unsatisfied. Still, what precedes it is so good that I don't mind that much.
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post #27 of 119
2/2/05 at 12:20am
Absolutely fucking huge fan.
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post #28 of 119
2/2/05 at 5:09am
Although I have nothing but love for this film, I'll admit it has a few problems. I think Eric Bana was a little lost in his role (and I thought he was great in Troy and damn-near brilliant in Chopper), and I think Ang Lee tried a little too hard to create a Greek tragedy out of the father-son relationship. Nevertheless, watching Ang Lee swing for the stands and miss is still a hell of a lot more exciting than watching, say, Ewe Boll try to bunt.

And for me, the section of the film between the time Hulk breaks out of the base to the end of the San Francisco standoff is about as perfect a representation of comic-book mayhem as you'll ever see on the big screen.

Hmmm, maybe they should have given Fantastic Four (Fantastic 4?) to Lee instead of the Barbershop Taxi dude. He probably would have brought in the cosmic scope that this film desperately needs, and won't have.
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post #29 of 119
2/2/05 at 6:07am
A misunderstood classic. Lee went for an actual drama whereas everyone was expecting a dumb summer movie. Lee combined both.

I'll agree with TG that the entire action scene from the desert to san francisco is damn near flawless. I fucking love Hulk's scream then pounding the floor with his fists to deliver a mini earthquake. Awesome.
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post #30 of 119
2/2/05 at 6:13am
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Originally Posted by Tsubaki Sanjuro
Hmmm, maybe they should have given Fantastic Four (Fantastic 4?) to Lee instead of the Barbershop Taxi dude. He probably would have brought in the cosmic scope that this film desperately needs, and won't have.
I think the relative box office failure of Hulk has pretty much put an end to Marvel choosing interesting or leftfield directors for their movies. Better to stick with adequate hacks and count the DVD returns than risk a high profile flop.

Stupid really, as going for less-than-obvious guys like Bryan Singer and Sam Raimi is what put Marvel in such a strong position in the first place.
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post #31 of 119
2/2/05 at 6:34am
I'm down with the Hulk love.
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post #32 of 119
2/2/05 at 11:11am
"...and my axe."

I don't like the way it's dismissed as "one of the bad comic book films". Seems to happen mostly in the US though, it got great reviews here and almost everybody I know who have seen it liked it. But I hate to see it considered a failure of any kind.

My favorite bit is the first Hulk-out, for a number of reasons:
  • The way it comes about, solely for internal reasons.
  • The way he almost calms down when he hears Betty's voice, but he picks up the phone too late.
  • Hulk is proportioned like a toddler, he's just been born.
  • Someone mentioned when he slips and falls.
  • The 'Atlas'-shot with the gamma sphere.
  • Ends with a great 'Frankenstein' reference.

And there is also the moment after the accident when Banner dreams about that door. When the door slams open Hulk is lurking in the shadows. He growls, but he doesn't come out just yet...
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post #33 of 119
2/2/05 at 11:31am
I love the way flashbacks are inserted in action scenes to amp up the emotional impact:
When Hulk falls from the plane and passes out.
The climax of the final battle, as his father is overwhelmed by the rage, Banner has a tender memory of him as a child.

And let's not forget when Ang breaks the fourth wall. Immediately following Talbot's bizarre end, the view pulls back to reveal a grid of still shots from various points in the movie and drops us right into the next scene. Call me easily impressed, but that blows my mind.
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post #34 of 119
2/3/05 at 3:33am
Hulk was pretty cool but I think the flashbacks got a wee bit out of control. Correct me if I'm mistaken but was'nt there a flashback of Betty having a flashback?
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post #35 of 119
2/3/05 at 3:45am
Love It.
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post #36 of 119
2/3/05 at 9:59am
Yeah i'm in! it's one of the best comicbook movies.
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post #37 of 119
2/4/05 at 3:06am
I'm also a big fan of this movie, for a lot of the same reasons that others have mentioned. I'm still at a loss when people mention this film as having shitty CGI; to me it has some of the best I've seen in a long time. I think people have a hard time with it because there really is no reference for a 15 foot tall green man; I think something that close to human but still not quite human is a bit hard for some to grasp.

My absolute favorite scene in the movie is the flashback where we find out what happened to Bruce's mother, at the same time as Bruce is being forced to dream it. Nick Nolte's voiceover in that scene is so heartbreaking; the way his voice quavers as he is telling Betty what he thought he had to do. It gets me every time.
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post #38 of 119
2/4/05 at 4:10am
I just watched this on HBO the other night.

Goddamn was that great. The ending has really grown on me, and the Hulk travelling from the military base to San Francisco is often jaw dropping.
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post #39 of 119
2/4/05 at 4:19am
i loved this movie, and i'll take it over spidey 2 any day of the week. there i said it.
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post #40 of 119
2/4/05 at 2:42pm
I'm with you too Charles, I think it's a masterpiece - it's so rare to see a comic book movie that's not dumb and cliched, that experiments visually and actually has a compelling and original story to tell... Even a well-executed film like Spiderman 2 was still very conventional and predictable compared to Hulk. And the ending is so ballsy - the last fight scene between Hulk and his dad is full of abstract imagery, like when they ride via the thunder through the clouds... beautiful stuff, you can pick up new details in it every time you watch it. Visually Hulk is one of the triumphs of the CGI age. The actors are also all very good (especially Nolte), and Danny Elfman did one of his best scores for this film.

Great film, I've personally got no doubt that in time it will be recognised for its true worth.
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post #41 of 119
2/4/05 at 3:02pm
I'm in. The scene transitions were creative and exciting, reaching their peak in about the best villain death I've ever seen.

And Nolte - man, Nolte doesn't get the love he deserves for his work in this picture. He's so wildly over the top that when he starts literally chewing the scenery, it's absolutely believable.

I saw this one on opening day, & walked out thinking it was going to be a huge, huge hit. Just another example of how out of step I am.
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post #42 of 119
2/4/05 at 3:18pm
Loved the way the father-son relationship was explored. The movie's only flaw was that is was too ambitious. Joe Average Movie Goer didn't get it. I saw it in the movie theater and enjoyed it, heard other people's reactions and thought something was wrong with me, bought the DVD and decided I loved it. I wouldn't mind a more "Hulk Smash" for the next movie, but Hulk was close to a masterpiece.
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post #43 of 119
2/4/05 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by El Topo
Visually Hulk is one of the triumphs of the CGI age. The actors are also all very good (especially Nolte), and Danny Elfman did one of his best scores for this film.

Great film, I've personally got no doubt that in time it will be recognised for its true worth.
Thank you I agree totally. We had Gollum and Hulk in the same year and for sure they will go down as the first two truly unique and great CGI jobs. Elfman's score is his best here in my opinion.
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post #44 of 119
2/4/05 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by FrankCobretti

And Nolte - man, Nolte doesn't get the love he deserves for his work in this picture. He's so wildly over the top that when he starts literally chewing the scenery, it's absolutely believable.

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You're not the only one who thinks so. From a less than knd review by one of my favorite reviewers:

"There is, though, one genuinely ferocious, out-of-control monster rampaging across the screen, and his name is Nick Nolte.
Looking like the Unabomber, growling in a florid, quasi-biblical-by-way-of-Shakespeare dialect and hurling that enormous, formidable physique into all sorts of baroque contortions while surrounded by a loyal army of mutant canines--Nolte seems hell-bent on finally proving himself bigger, scarier and even more reckless than his pal Marlon Brando.
It's a performance so berserk I can't imagine people not smiling about it for years to come, and I doubt it's humanly possible for me to have been any happier than I was every second he spent on-screen.
Finally comes the terrifying moment when it appears there's no more scenery left to chew. Ever the resourceful actor, Nolte grabs a thick electrical cord and starts gnawing on it like a rabid animal."
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=5800
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post #45 of 119
2/4/05 at 4:58pm
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Originally Posted by BobClark
Ever the resourceful actor, Nolte grabs a thick electrical cord and starts gnawing on it like a rabid animal.
That's why that guy is a professional writer, & I'm not. :-)
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post #46 of 119
2/6/05 at 8:34am
Talbot's death scene was just brilliant. I also really liked it when Banner transformed into the Gulk at his house but began pounding the floor in frustration, it was a nice touch, like Hulk was a child.

Another extremely cool moment is where those agents fire at him and the bullets only make him bigger, then he truly becomes the Hulk.

I also really liked when he tried strangling Betty, it showed he could still be dangerous.
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post #47 of 119
2/6/05 at 8:42am
Thread Starter 
The scene where he's about to throw the rock at the chopper, then sees Betty - the emotion both in the scene and the Hulk is just electrifying.
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post #48 of 119
2/6/05 at 8:55am
The editing is fantastic, it's the closest we'll ever get to an actual comic book within a movie format.
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post #49 of 119
2/7/05 at 4:29am
I thought the hulk's CGI was excellent, sure he isnt as in-depth and wonderful a character as gollum, but i think in terms or resolution, shading, and interaction with environment, he is head and shoulders above. because the majority of the stuff hulk smashes is real.
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post #50 of 119
2/7/05 at 1:10pm
I will forever fight for this film.
I was truly captivated while watching it in theatres.
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