Tekken 5 - Limited Edition

Tekken 5 Pre-Order-only Limited Edition:

Tekken 5 PS2 Version (includes action mode with Jin)
Tekken 1 Arcade Version, now on PS2
Tekken 2 Arcade Version, now on PS2
Tekken 3 Arcade Version, now on PS2
Tekken 5 PS2 Hori Stick (see below)
Keep Case to hold all Tekken games
Tekken Series Artbook




Available (pre-order only):

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?...%5Fid=B281233A

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/255840.asp

GameCrazy is also offering this, but i can´t find it on their website:

http://www.gamecrazy.com

Tekken 5 is a special case in fighting games, because it has the graphics and the gameplay. The DOA series is too simplistic and repetitive, VF is excellent but nobody wants to play due to the "lame" characters and extremelly harsh learning curve, SC became too mainstream and "scrubby" and the 2D games (easily the best fighting games in the market) are dismissed by graphic whores.

I´m not in the US, so it´s going to be hard for me to get this set... I hope i can find someone to get it for me. The stick alone is worth more than half the price...

A stick is the only real option for a fighting game. Fighting games were designed for sticks.

MK is shit. Plain and simple. The last two MKs were both broken (bugs, infinites, moves that you couldn´t escape and so on) within 48 hours (unlike most fighting games, where it takes weeks or months of serious play). Fans made a list of stuff to fix from the previous MK, and then delivered it to the creator (Tobias or Boon, don´t know which is which). Guess what? NOTHING was fixed. It plays basically the same in Deception.

Not to mention that the engines are deeply flawed to begin with. There´s no strategic reason to use weak moves at all, moves with no recovery time, moves with stupid priority, all characters are too similar...

And before anyone say casual players don´t find the broken stuff or that "that doesn´t make the game less fun"... My young cousin found the stepping infinites by himself and could perform them with 100% of accuracy. That´s how shitty MK is. The Midway designers have no idea how to balance a game, they don´t even know what move priority is... The moves in MK all have crazy properties that throw any gameplay out of the window. It´s stupid, stupid crap, which when used together with the step makes the series the worst in fighting game history. MK is unplayable even in the lowest level.

DOA is dumb, but fun for a certain period. You evolve to a certain point, then... it stops, because there´s nothing else to learn (the complete opposite of VF). After you reach a certain level, you can only go for the rock-paper-scissors counters. Ask the world champion of DOA, which learned to play in one week and won the tourney the next. Or any of the few high-level players in the US. They have openly stated that DOA is a scrubby game (i think it was the DOACentral guys - the best in the US). Hell, ask the creator himself, Itagaki, which stated that he´s terrible in fighting games and that he makes DOA for the people like him.

DOA is still better than MK, though.

VF is excellent, but nobody outside Japan plays it, so there´s no competition.

SC2 was a serious step down from SC1. It was dumbed-down, and the side-stepping makes 80% of the moves useless, which in turn makes every match a poke-fest with the same exact "safe" moves over and over. It´s basically "ok, this move is short/fast enough that, even if he side-steps, i can still block or counter afterwards". That´s simply ridiculous.

Tekken went bad for a while, but T5 took it back up. They didn´t reinvent the whell, they didn´t add stupid rules like MK (if the engine holds you back, it´s a sign the designers don´t know what they´re doing). They simply fine-tuned the game, just like AM2 does with Virtua Fighter.

The fact DOA and MK are the biggest fighting games in the US is laughable. Japanese gamers are the ones that know what it´s all about. There, Virtua Fighter is number one and King of Fighters is number 2 (with Guilty Gear further down, but still in the top ten).