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A crash course in Horror.

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
A filmmaking friend of mind is interested in teaming up with me to try and put together a horror movie script. This baffles me because he admits he's a pussy when it comes to horror movies and gets regualar nightmares when he watches stuff like Monster Squad. I can't personally understand this, he insists that the only reason why he wants to do an independant horror movie is because he thinks it's the genre that he might make the most money from as a first time independant filmmaker...

So it is my job to give him a crash course introduction to horror. He wants the films to be supernatural. He doesn't want vampires. I am looking for suggestions, I want to show him two movies from each decade starting with the fifties and then expand from there. The movies have to be supernatural, no vampires, no universal studios monster horror, and no slashers (that last one is subjective because a lot of supernatural horror could also be classified as a slasher like certain sections of Suspiria). And also I'd like for the movies to represent the type of horror popular for that time.

Here is what I am thinking of for examples so far:

Fifities:
Night of the Demon
Night of the Hunter
(I know it could be classified as a slasher but due to the way it was shot I view it more as a dark fantasy in the same league as the grimm fairy tails)

Sixties:
The Haunting
Rosemary's Baby


Seventies:
The Exorcist
Phantasm


Eighties:
The Shining
A Nightmare on Elm Street


Nineties:
Candyman
The Blair Witch Project


Here are other movies I plan to fit in somewhere:
The Thing (both of them)
Suspira
The Evil Dead
The Birds
Poltergeist
Night of the Living Dead
Dawn of the Dead
Day of the Dead
Shaun of the Dead
Tremors
Videodrome


I know there are others I forgot to include.
post #2 of 16
Thread Starter 
Damn. I meant to post this in the Creature Corner forums, I guess I can blame my error on it being 2:44am and I am freaking tired but can't manage to fall asleep. Insomnia is regular occurence for me if you haven't already guessed.
post #3 of 16
I would say stay away from the Tremors series, Blair Witch, and Freddy is too much a slasher. But some of the others may help. If the film is going with supernatural, ther have to be a lot of good older movies That learned to build suspense and hooror without the aide of computer animation and heavy gore. Gore is great, but I see a lot of the gory films that stink because they never developed any sense of suspense. Some of the old Poe adaptations that have little gore but give natural events (The plague in Masque of the Red Death, for example) an almost supernatural life of their own could be a good way to appreciate the suspense portion of a movie. Other movies I personally enjoyed with the supernatural;
The fall of the house of usher
the legend of hell house
The Omen (first one)
Les diaboliques
The Uninvited (40"s version)
many more that would be more recent with supernatural themes
post #4 of 16
Why no Universals?
post #5 of 16
Ringuu is a most for an example of truly great modern ghost story telling... and if you want Evocative images then Event Horizon is pretty cool.

While not a horror persay the original freaks shares a lot thematically with modern horror films and should be a good view...
post #6 of 16
Yeah, both RINGU and A TALE OF TWO SISTERS should be there.
post #7 of 16
What's wrong with Blair Witch? If the guy wants to make a shitload of money from an indie film then that's the perfect example of how to go about doing it.
post #8 of 16
Fett's suggestions for japanese horror will give a good showcase of what will be considered 'cutting edge' horror for the next few years.
You should watch any of those modern horrors like Boogeyman, 13 ghosts, ghosts ship and the like for what NOT to do.

If you want exercises in building tension then Shyamalan's films are great, or hitchcock's, if you want to go to the source.

Scanners, The Fly, Hellraiser, and The Thing for what the limits and strengths of body horror are.

then get him thinking hard about what he wants to make a horror movie for. there are death-scene film like Final Destination that are pure exercises in anticipateing and appreciating iminigative deaths. the deaths are kind of like punchlines. the moviesa are almost comedies.

some movies use the horror genre as metaphors. alien is about sexual fear, exorcist is about the fear of a girl becoming a woman, and the various iterations of Body Snatchers are about paranoia, identity and conformity. Romero's 'Dead' movies are the most blatant in their social statements.

And if it's just about low budget film-making then Holloween with its small corridors, hand held camera and non CGI monster is a master class in wringing scares for nothing. Blair Witch too, though that film's style will still be too recognisable if you try to copy it.

He has to know why he's doing it. Are his ambitions no more than creating a sequence of scary scenes? is he aiming it at the independant scene, or at teenagers who will watch anything if there's some decent grue?
We could give him advice an recommedations for ever, but he's the one who has to answer that question.
post #9 of 16
Also, it's not supernatural, but THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE is a masterpiece of 70s horror. If you want to make a horror film and ignore that, well, that's pretty insane.

Also, AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON. One of the tightest, and best written movies I've seen, which has been hugely influential to myself as a writer/screenwriter.
post #10 of 16
some good supernatural movies you should look at are:

The Amityville Horror first film
Thirteen Ghosts orgianl (new if you want)
House on Haunted Hill orginal (new too)
Ghost Ship
Dark Half
Ghost Story
Ghost (it's a chick flick but you can get ideas to make it scary from it)

to add a few there
post #11 of 16
The only movies I could add would be Carnival of Souls, Phantasm and Carrie.

Just, please, if you make a movie, keep the warp speed editing to a minimum.

Thank you in advance.
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Clarke
and the various iterations of Body Snatchers are about paranoia, identity and conformity.
I knew I left out a classic.

The reason why no universal horror is simply because he's already seen most of them, save for Dracula. And due to our no budget and our lack of makeup skills we only want to imply that the monster/demon/ghost/spirit/thingy is there, that's pretty much the only relationship our movie will have with the Blair Witch Project.

I like Japanese horror but I probably will not be able to find many of them available for rent near where I live and I don't like to buy movies sight unseen. But I will search for them.
post #13 of 16
I guess I agree then that Blair Witch, which I really enjoyed when it came out, is good for an example of building up the fear factor without really having to actually show any special effects or makeup. I was more against it because, like someone pointed out, the style would be easily recognized and maybe turn people off as a copy.
I think The Village did a good job at building up fear and anxiety, with no real special effects at first, and later with minimal costume. I know a lot of people were dissapointed with the movie, but there were really tense moments and some good ideas in it. I personally like this one a lot, despite it not being the "horror" movie I expected when I went.
Other good ones, to me anyway;
The Changeling
the Shining
The People Under the Stairs
The Innocents
The House by the Cemetary
The Devil's Backbone
The Fog
post #14 of 16
I know I would say this but HELLRAISER.

It isn't a slasher but it is supernatural. It helped bring the whole S&M sub-culture into existance and effected popular culture profoundly. Add to that it displays the power of horror to be a scathing and intelligent social drama whilst involving deeper ideas and meanings. It's got elements of body horror, haunted house genre, tiny hints of slasher, demonism and also shows that sex and gore CAN be a vital elemnt of the plot and not just cheap window dressing.

- Scarecrow
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
I am going to have to defend Phantasm. It is required viewing in my opinion because it is a pime example of what you can achieve using pure style and a great location. We have one great location available to us (his grandparents own a vineyard up near Napa) and we intend to make the film entirly take place there. I know a vineyard is not exactly as striking as the stark white halls of the mortuary but it's a unique location. I don't think there have been many horror films made in Wineries, most of the rural supernatural horror takes place on farms with cornfields not grapevines.

I appreciate your suggestions for the films, but some of them I don't think he will be interested in seeing as he wants mainly tho watch the best examples of supernatural horror that were successful at the U.S. boxoffice and on video when they were released.

Oh... and he has already been forcebly shown the evil dead trilogy.
post #16 of 16
Vine rape!
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