Revenge of the Sith Trailer Discussion Discussion

I think the only thing that's been established conclusively thus far is that Goldberg was definitely NOT conceived by midichlorians.

Yes. We are only 2 or 3 visual spoilers away from having the entire film literally out there and ruined.

Which I surmise will happen on or around 4/2.

Now that we have this trailer, I'm satisfied and am going spolier-free from here on out. I just hope I haven't already seen too much. I've been reasonably discriminating about what I've looked at, though, so I should be safe.

How much slashfic featuring that twi'lek with the big cans is out there already?

I think after 2nd April I'll be out on the spoiler front. I'll probably buy the books and what have you but I think my checking of things online has got to be curtailed around then. I still believe there are surprises in this movie that the publications will undoubtedly reveal and I don't know if I could still enjoy my last few weeks of fandom knowing absolutely everything the final chapter.

It's been a hell of a ride though, seeing that trailer last night brought a whole hell of a lot of things home, I remember as a kid figuring that it would be finished by the time I was 30 and it's all come true-I'm 30 this year and we're on the final steps towards what appears to be a very fine chapter in the Star Wars saga. After all we've invested collectively and seperately this looks to be the one where we finally see what we envisioned a long time ago, in a living room far, far away.

I can seriously not wait for this to be over. I dreaded Star Wars news every day for the last two years.

My Tivo unfortunately cut this off in mid stream (stupid 9:02 ending time!!). Anybody know where I can download a copy? You can PM me if you'd like. I assume this was released through hyperspace as well, though I haven't been able to find it on-line.

I was only mildly "whelmed" by the first preview, but what I saw of this one looked very exciting. More emperor=happy Overlord.

I am concerned that we only have one shot of Grievous . The last time a major CGI character wasn't featured prominently in a Star Wars trailer it was Jar Jar Binks.

Seeing Yoda get blasted by some Force Lightning tickled my thermal detonators. Frog legs anyone?

Why man? I used to love going into work each morning and checking out the spoilers on starwarsemail or Tbone or even the forcenet when it used to post actual news..every day there was a little tid-bit that kept me going in that place, just day after day existence, that's pretty much what the last 8 or so years has been for me.

Sorry to hear that.

Where is Grievous in the trailer? I only saw a brief flash of one of his guards.

Well Devin, it seems like you just ran out of material with Star Wars and repeated the same joke over and over. Maybe by the time the film is released (or hits DVD or whatever), something will inspire you to insult it in entirely new ways

But again, why? Youre giving the impression that you seem to believe your somehow superior, I just fail to see why.

oh lord, please don't do this. I can already feel the static electricity in my hair as Devin approaches your post with his response.

I watched the thing a dozen times last night and didn't pick up on that. Thanks, Fett.

i think grievous

is the fella with the cape in one sequence, i guess he's cold?

Don't feed the troll

http://www.filerush.com/download.php...that_video.avi

Maybe I read this wrong:

"every day there was a little tid-bit that kept me going in that place, just day after day existence, that's pretty much what the last 8 or so years has been for me."

But that sounded sad to me.

Also, I'm sick of writing about the movies and I am sick of people being annoyed that my opinion dares be different than theirs.

I'm just sick of your opinion about these movies, not that they're different than mine. We've heard it a million times, and it's unfortunate that it's got to be you that posts those "news" items. The solution would be for you to not post any Star Wars news, and let somebody else with a fresher take do it, but that's too obvious to try.

The fact that my take annoys you makes me feel much better.

www.comingsoon.net

From Devin:

Why would the fact that someone finds you repetitive, obnoxious, and annoying make you feel "much better" about anything? Or maybe you are just being sardonically facetious again, which is always so amusing and refreshing. Devin, I would say that the majority of time people find you annoying because of the manner in which you express your opinions, not the opinion itself, IMHO.


Getting back to the subject at hand: I liked what portion of the trailer I actually was able to tivo. The "are you threatening me, Master Jedi?" dialogue from Palpy will probably join "wipe them out, all of them" as one of the few lines from the prequels that I will be quoting anytime in the future.

I read some of the AotC thread today. I forget how delusional people get over Star Wars movies. Everything that pisses me off about the internet is included therein, hyperbole, etc. Granted I called AotC the worst film I had ever seen, and I've since retracted. It's only the most disappointing. I'm thinking of not bothering commenting on it here, cause the delusional fans are willing to make all sorts of apologies. Then again, what if it's actually good?

There's nothing sad about it, I've basically spent the last few years stoked on what I've read about what's coming. It's not the main focus of my life but I'd be lying if I said it wasn't something that I thought about over the last few years.

As for your latter comment, I care not whether your opinion differs to mine, in a year's time I'll not even give this whole thing a second thought, I'm sorry you're so jaded about the whole affair before the event occurs but hey, it won't change how I feel going into this. It's too late in the day to worry about making friends or offending people I'll never meet. I'll be enjoying my run-in, I just hope others do.

What gets to me is both sides on the prequel debate are so totally fucking over the top.
For every "gusher" who defends every frame of the prequels, there is a "Basher" who whines
"Lucas Raped my childhood" a million times over.
The hyperbole from both sides reaches the heights of absurbity. I have never seen a bunch of High School Drama Queens...or Kings, in this case..as I have on the Star Wars sites.
Look, it's fine to like or dislike the sequels, it's fun to discuss the films, it fine to get geeky about the detail to a certain degree, but when the films come to dominate you whole fucking life, something is wrong, folks.
Williams Shanter's famous comment in the SNL Trekkie skit can apply to SW fans as well as Trekkies.

It's like politics, there's always going to be nuts on both sides, and most people on either side don't want to listen. That said, forgiving bad plotting, acting, etc. etc. is NUTS.

I just want the pain to stop.

Nicely said, Dre. The problem with AotC (and indirectly the whole prequel experiment) is exactly that: failed expectations. Disappointment. And I'm not talking about about fanboy expectations regarding what would happen, lack of darkness/violence, "kiddification" or any of the other nonsensical criticisms that people level at these movies.

I mean, at the end of the day, you look at the amount of talent brought to bear on the prequels: the amazing artistry of ILM, the beautiful costumes/makeup/modelwork, the fight choreography/stuntwork, not to mention a fantastic cast of vets and great, unconventional choices for the leads (who else was amazed and excited in 97 to learn that fuckin' Renton was playing young Obi-wan?), legions of devoted and loving fans, and a rich backstory hinted at in the previous films, not to mention essentially being given carte blanche in regards to studio interference and budget, and what is the end result? You can't help but feel that a STAR WARS films made with these resources, starring Ewan Mcgregor, Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson, Terrence Stamp, Christopher Lee, Ian Mcdiarmid, etc. should be more than the limp, pretty mess we have now.

Is it really too much to ask for a film to feature likeable characters, involved in an understandable and exciting plot? I'm not asking the world, just to see enjoyable archetypes well-played by a fine cast, engaged in some well-realized derring-do with some underlying sense of mythology and some dramatic weight. Which is what the vaunted original trilogy did so well.

AotC, even more than Menace, which I think is serviceable if not inspired, fails utterly to connect either the audience or the actors to the narrative or the characters. We simply don't care, and watching the film becomes about just tolerating the awkward romance until what the audience's lowered expectations have come to regard as "the good bits" comes on screen. Not fun, to my way of thinking.

Regarding the new film, I have to go with the cliche, despite all precedent and my own better judgement, that the trailer hints at real emotion and looks as though the actors are actually finding something to play (see Sam Jackson actually sounding awake and like himself for once). Still, the trailers for the other films hinted at drama and tension and romance, while essentially delivering none of those in the theater. Regardless, my fingers are crossed, and it'll all be over soon anyway, for better or worse.

I'm with "dudalb."

I like Star Wars. I have a small collection of figures and own the movies on DVD as well as a number of Art and Behind the scenes books. However, I could never attempt to defend any of the movies against a "hater." I simply am not attached nearly enough to take personal offense and get angry. I also can't side with the bashers, because I recognize that the movies are flawed but if you don't like them you don't have to watch them or be around all the crap that comes with them.

I am positively shocked at the arguments for or against a film that hasn't even COME OUT YET. No one has seen it and yet the best ever/worst ever arguments are just getting more and more heated. I understand loyalty to your hobbies and interests in a sense, but how on earth can people not only make these judgements without seeing the film, but also get into heated debates about matters of personal opinion?

It's beginning to make my head hurt.

My prediction: Episode 3 will be the best of the prequels but it won't be as good as eveyone is hoping. It's just not possible. Also I stand by my prediction made way back in October/November that it won't be as good as The Incredibles, even if that is apples to oranges.

Devin has been right in every criticism of GL and the PT. That being said, I am putting 100% blind fanboy hope into thinking that Episode three is going to be the movie that we have all been waiting for.

I think there is about one hour of material from Eps I and II that will help fill in the story for ROTS. But for the most part they have been soul-less commercial shit.


Not this one. This is the best genre trailer I have seen since the first LOTR trailer.

As I mentioned in the Robots thread, the trailer is gorgeous in DLP. That full-motion-video look that shows up on TV is gone.

It also did not illicit much of a reaction from the crowd. Some murmuring when the Lucasfilm logo came on but nothing afterward. Not that there was much time as the movie began immediately following, but there certainly wasn't any thunderous applause either.

http://www.taintedwings.com/episode3trailer.mov

Fantastic trailer. Looks like this movie will be a feast for the eyes.

This is the first time I'm actually looking forward to seeing a Star Wars prequel in the theatre. Having said that, I'm pretty much done discussing the prequels, defending them, trying to convince others to see them in a different way etc. I'm only a delusional fan anyway. I've decided to just enjoy them for myself, much as I have with the Matrix trilogy. I have my own reasons for liking them beyond being deluded into thinking the dialogue and acting are good. The new movie's actual release might fuel more discussion, but for now I just feel like it's all been said hundreds of times before.

Agree with pretty much all you say here. Its funny, because I dread when Devin posts Star Wars news too. Not because of his opinions, but because I know people will take it as some sort of attack and there will be at least three threads discussing it in a uneccesary heated debate.

I am really to the point that I can not wait till its all said and done. After the trailer, I saw a glimpse of the atomic internet aftermath that is Episode III. I think I will just not visit the boards for those two or three weeks of insanity.

I love Star Wars and all, but a good chunk of the fan base is really starting to bother me.

So, it appears that no one could go with the "Cautious Optimism" that was suggested from the beginning? It's as if there are only two camps here: The "it's gonna rock and be the best movie ever!" camp... and the "What's the point? It will surely suck no matter what" camp.

Indeed, it's already as if the film has been released with these two opposing views playing a tug-of-war that neither side can win.

And, yes, it's part of what makes the internet a bick suckhole at times.

I have a feeling that after the movie comes out the Internet will collapese not unlike Mordor at the end of Lord of the Rings.

The way I look at it, if episodes 1 & 2 were good (I'm using that subjectively btw, for the sake of argument) then we would probably be bracing ourselves for a bit of a let down in episode 3.

What I mean by that is that If Lucas had knocked both of those movies out of the park, it might have been difficult for him to follow through on delivering a good movie the third time around.

I'm actually confident he'll deliver the goods with this one, as it seems this is the real meat of the saga.

If it's mediocre, then oh well. I didn't ask him to make these movies. He did it of his own volition and I at least respect the fact that he's tried to bring STAR WARS back for the fans.

Now that's some fuckin imagery for your ass, LOL

I've never bought the theory that Lucas was holding back and saving all his talent for Episode III. It seems like a form of denial by people who were disappointed in TPM and AOTC but still want Lucas to fulfill their expectations. Whatever my complaints are with Lucas, I do think he put a lot of effort into trying to make the Prequels the best that he could. Whether he succeeded or not is up for debate, but I think the intent was there.

Nope, not much fun at all. Menace, while not an especially good movie, at least felt like a Star Wars movie. (It also looked like it was actually shot on fully-constructed sets and on location, as opposed to an endless series of bluescreen stages.) Clones came across as an aging director's desperate attempt to reconnect with his fanbase while trying to pander to younger filmgoers by throwing in gratuitous and cynical references to more recent fare like The Fifth Element and Gladiator. Lucas' current modus operandi seems to be, "Everyone hated Ep. I, so let's try and figure out what the kids are into these days before we make the other two." I've always suspected that the inspiration for Hayden Christensen's casting was probably a Justin Timberlake poster on his daughter's bedroom wall, ca. 1998 or so.

Based on the trailer, it looks as if Ep. III will be full of LotR-style extended tracking shots and smash-pans, which worked astonishingly well in Jackson's films but seems totally disconnected from the self-consciously simple aesthetic of the original trilogy.

That was a freaking outstanding trailer. My feeling that this will be the best episode of the PT hasn't gone away. Anticipation levels rising.

We should be so lucky.

I have a "cautious optimism" going into this film. I finally saw the trailer, and really liked it. My wife's response? "This one better not SUCK!"

I'm in neither of these camps, including the "cautious optimism" camp. I'm simply cautious and surprisingly indifferent. Do I want it to be good? Of course. Do I think it WILL be good? I dunno. Nothing I've seen has pushed me one way or the other.

I wonder if the reason we haven't seen but a glimpse of the Kenobi/Grievous fight is because Ewan McGregor fighting a CG bad guy looks as bad as logic predicts. These poor actors have enough trouble making simple eye contact with George's e-thespians. Or sitting in a chair, in Samuel L. Jackson's case.

I feel the exact same way.

Lucasfilm rarely puts out a bad trailer. And this new EP3 trailer is no exception. I think it works like gangbusters. But right now, I feel like a cut and bruised boxer who's limping back into the ring for a third and final round, weary of getting another merciless beatdown but strangely content in knowing that even if things somehow don't go my way this last time, at least the pain will be at an end when that final bell rings.

what is a 'smash pan'?