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post #51 of 201
Wasn't this thread supposed to be for hating? Why is the Apologist Sycophant Brigade posting here?
post #52 of 201
Man, those prequels suck.
post #53 of 201
They are kinda shitty, yeah.
post #54 of 201
Thread Starter 
I agree. They are not good movies.
post #55 of 201
They suck so hard i gain weight when i watch them.
post #56 of 201
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by coffnrock
"Not good," my ass. They're fucking stinky in their badness. (just trying to live up to the thread's spirit).
I give you a C. The intent was there, but the insulting criticism could have been better. It also wouldn't have hurt to have included a personal attack or two.
post #57 of 201
These movies are so bad it's like getting raped by George Lucas wearing a Jar-Jar head strap-on dildo, but I bet you like that because you're such a big fucking queer for Luca$ you want to suck his cock every night while you masturbate to pictures of the Emperor.

Better?
post #58 of 201
Thread Starter 
Much better. I particularly savour the use of '$'. Very clever.
post #59 of 201
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
you want to suck his cock every night while you masturbate to pictures of the Emperor.
I fear that would involve a level of physical co-ordination many of us lack. Unless Lucas has the Emperor tattoed on his belly.
post #60 of 201
One would assume that he does, yes.
post #61 of 201
My ass is sore from the prequels and I'm tired of crying and my lips are chapped.

In your face, prequels!
post #62 of 201
This one time, the prequels asked if I had change for a twenty, and I said yeah, and so I gave the prequels four five dollar bills, and then I noticed that the prequels only gave me a ten, but by that time it was too late, because the prequels had already gotten on the bus. Man, I hate the fucking prequels.
post #63 of 201
Oh, I remember one time I got mugged by some thugs in an alley, and while I was lying on the ground, bleeding, I see the prequels walk right on by, pretending not to notice what was going on. The bastards.
post #64 of 201
Thread Starter 
Are you single?
post #65 of 201
I heart Sabalite. psst, PM me if you heart me too. you're a catch!!
post #66 of 201
The entire series was neither powerful nor meaningful to movies in a material way.

The only people that still like SW are children and abnormal geeks who hold onto childish things.

John Williams is a hack.



Come on, what other good ones are we missing here in this thread?
post #67 of 201
Well, Lucas did rape our childhoods.
post #68 of 201

EP 3 will own

Ep 3 will own - stop whining.
post #69 of 201
It's only a matter of time before someone gets murdered in a debate over the prequels
I am on neither side completly since I think that TPM overall stunk and AOTC aside from the Anakin /Padme scenes was pretty good, but I think the ability of both sides to make fools of themselves is beyond belief.
post #70 of 201
I posted this already a while back but who gives a crap:

While reading an Ep. III story on Ain't It Cool News, I stumbled upon this TalkBack subject line, which I think is a nugget of truth that should give prequel-haters something to think about:

"I don't know why the naysayers are complaining. All the prequel characters they hate get killed. It's time to clean house, they should enjoy it."
post #71 of 201
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Originally Posted by Stormin
I posted this already a while back but who gives a crap:

While reading an Ep. III story on Ain't It Cool News, I stumbled upon this TalkBack subject line, which I think is a nugget of truth that should give prequel-haters something to think about:

"I don't know why the naysayers are complaining. All the prequel characters they hate get killed. It's time to clean house, they should enjoy it."

Anakin and Jar Jar don't die do they? Cos if they do, I'm there.
post #72 of 201
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Originally Posted by dudalb
It's only a matter of time before someone gets murdered in a debate over the prequels
I am on neither side completly since I think that TPM overall stunk and AOTC aside from the Anakin /Padme scenes was pretty good, but I think the ability of both sides to make fools of themselves is beyond belief.
Believe it or not, I agree with your post 100%.
post #73 of 201
The Matrix sucks.

THE END
post #74 of 201
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Originally Posted by General Zod
The Matrix sucks.

THE END
2 & 3, c'mon, 1 was pretty good :-)
post #75 of 201
Movies sucking really sucks. Am I right?
post #76 of 201
loud Noises!
post #77 of 201
Let's cut the bullshit.

"The Trial of Billy Jack", now thats monumental sucking of the suckiest kind.
post #78 of 201
For anyone who wants a good reason why SW talks was banned from CF, look no further.
post #79 of 201
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Originally Posted by Fatboy Roberts
And you never did answer any of my questions in the "Holy Shit, Clone Wars" thread, Litmus.
I did. A few times. For reasons unknown, you kept ignoring my responses.

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As a matter of fact, your ONLY answer in that thread, as I remember, had something to do with you condemning the practice of analyzing the posts, almost as a direct response, a sort of a mea-culpa, even.
You remember incorrectly, I'm afraid. Your "big" question to me was, if I'm so embarrassed by STAR WARS, why don't I move on? My response (again, and again, and again) was, why should I abandon STAR WARS when, so far, I only really detest 2/5 of the films? I'm sure you'll ignore this response yet again, and I have no idea why.

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And yet, in this thread there's a very venomous, mean-spirited analysis of Carl that appears to have had some time spent on it.
Less than thirty seconds, I assure you. I've spent far more time responding to your posts and now I'm wondering why.

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Just as I'm curious about your collections of contradictions in the previous thread, I'm a little curious about the contradiction between saying "I really wish fans would stop trying to psychoanalyze other fans. There is rarely a hidden agenda with how one loves or hates a creative work" in one thread, and then unleashing a very pissed-off and dismissive psychoanalytic post that seemed to have come from nowhere and has GOT to be fueled by some sort of hidden agenda...
Look, obviously you're trying to fuck with me by ignoring my responses to your questions, by claiming that I contradicted myself when I did no such thing, etc., etc. I honestly have no idea why you're playing this game but fine, whatever. Like I said, you win. My "attack" on Carl was hardly psychoanalytical, nor based on any hidden agenda. My dislike of Carl's holier-than-thou attitude has been quite open and plainly stated. It was merely an escalated response to his attack on me and, I admit, that was a mistake on my part. I should have just ignored it the same way I had been ignoring his posts for a while now.

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Doesn't it ever feel like you're chasing your own tail, man?
No. How about you?

All I'm asking for is parity. If it's okay for one person to praise something, it should only be fair for someone else to be critical of it. If you get sick of all the bashing, maybe you should try to consider that there are those who are just as sick of all the gushing. Me? I just want to talk about STAR WARS without people trying to restrict what I can or cannot say. I honestly didn't think that was so much to ask. Maybe it is.

Oh, and I can't believe I agree with Zod but yes, THE MATRIX sucks. All three of them.
post #80 of 201
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Originally Posted by dudalb
It's only a matter of time before someone gets murdered in a debate over the prequels
I am on neither side completly since I think that TPM overall stunk and AOTC aside from the Anakin /Padme scenes was pretty good, but I think the ability of both sides to make fools of themselves is beyond belief.
Great post. I agree as well. Its funny because the flamewars happen instantly in these threads and the interesting and serious debate is totally stymied and thrown out the window. Generally that is.
post #81 of 201
Gungans suck.

THE END.
post #82 of 201
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did. A few times. For reasons unknown, you kept ignoring my responses.
No, there were like 5 questions. You tried to answer one, and then threw up the "Why are you trying to analyze me--I dont' like that!" and wrote a decent explanation/review of Clone Wars, only after you did a pouty thing and said "Whatever you win."

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Look, obviously you're trying to fuck with me by ignoring my responses to your questions,
No, I'm not. You seem to think the only reason I'm here is to smugly cross my forearms and nod when I "beat you" and that's not it at all. Ask your boy Coffnrock. I never once flamed you, I never came at you aggressively, and I never did anything but ask a series of questions that I thought would actually lend some INSIGHT into your posts and maybe further some actual discussion. You took that as an attack on your person and responded in kind. I don't get that. Maybe that's just how bad communication via internet as gotten: The idea of actual conversation is so alien that it's to be treated cautiously, and with trepidation.

And I'm not "Sick of all the bashing." and as a matter of fact, the terms "Basher" and "Gusher" don't seem to do any good towards discussion in the first place, because it doesn't allow for any real thought or dicussion on any subject. Neither do "hater" and "apologist" or whatever. They're nice neat tools for people too tired to actually explain themselves, but still randy enough to want to take quick shots at the opposite side. They hinder debate and expression, not allow for it. for example--the fact that CF has banned all Star Wars talk.

Which is weird, because from what I can gather about CF, I wouldn't think that's something you'd HAVE to do with the people who post there, they're thought to be typically smarter than the average Chud poster, so you wouldn't have to take their toys away for fear of cascading joke posts and mean-spirited, Lowest Common Denominator arguments about kids movies that might piss each other off with each easy, dismissive stab. It seems sort of weird that ALL discussion about the movie has been cut off, even negative one-liners.

Here's another question: Why does it irritate or outright ANGER some people to see that someone's opinion on a movie is different from yours? Not just Star Wars, but movies, period? Why does an opinion contradictory to yours set off an INSULTED feeling? Why do you take personal either praise/criticism of a creative venture you have absolutely nothing to do with?
post #83 of 201
I hereby proclaim Helix the official winner of this thread.
post #84 of 201
Hurrah!
post #85 of 201
teh win!!11 Helix is teh r0x!!! gungans gtfo!!1o1n loll3rz!

fuf.
post #86 of 201
I'm totally awesome.

Unlike the Gungans.

Gungans suck.
post #87 of 201
Hey! At least they aren't as bad as Troll 2!

Helix, stop it. I'll make you watch AOTC again.
post #88 of 201
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Originally Posted by Andrew Clarke
Hey! At least they aren't as bad as Troll 2!

Helix, stop it. I'll make you watch AOTC again.
Yo, that shit ain't fair.
post #89 of 201
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Originally Posted by Fatboy Roberts
No, there were like 5 questions. You tried to answer one, and then threw up the "Why are you trying to analyze me--I dont' like that!" and wrote a decent explanation/review of Clone Wars, only after you did a pouty thing and said "Whatever you win."
I'm sorry that's what you think. I took the "Whatever you win" route after you had completely ignored the three previous times I answered your question for reasons you still haven't explained. And at no time did I ever say anything akin to "Why are you trying to analyze me--I don't like that!" That's complete bullshit on your part and I defy you to directly quote me having said anything like that. As for the rest of your questions that later followed, why should I even get into those when you repeatedly ignored my response to the first one? And by the way, it should be noted, that you STILL haven't acknowledged it.

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Here's another question: Why does it irritate or outright ANGER some people to see that someone's opinion on a movie is different from yours? Not just Star Wars, but movies, period? Why does an opinion contradictory to yours set off an INSULTED feeling? Why do you take personal either praise/criticism of a creative venture you have absolutely nothing to do with?
WOW...you're just now asking this question? I've been asking this question of STAR WARS apologists for a while! That's the whole crux of my beef against people like Carl. Someone criticizes STAR WARS or Lucas...then rather than defend STAR WARS or Lucas with a compelling opinion, apologists sweep in and personally insult that person. I don't get personally insulted if someone trashes a film that I love. Especially not around here. I only get insulted when someone tries to marginalize my opinion...or segregate it to the ghetto of a "catchall" thread.

The fact that you think this is somehow a new question (and that you've got a really fucked-up perception of events in the CLONE WARS thread) leads me to believe that you're not really paying attention here. Posting on too many message boards, Fatboy? Too many threads to keep track of? Too many windmills to tilt or shitstorms to stir?

If anything, we're probably chasing each other's tail. If I say (once again) that "I'm done," I'm sure you will come back with another elitist bullshit taunt like I'm pouting and taking my toys and going home, etc., etc. Fine. Do it. Honestly? I no longer care. But I do care about STAR WARS, more than you or any apologist could ever comprehend. Obviously.
post #90 of 201
Right, so you missed Fatboy's whole point about apologists and haters kind of being two sides of the same coin. Possibly you also missed his point that using words like 'apologist' and 'hater' (and, shock horror, 'elitist') are just lazy ways of avoiding actually expressing any argument at all.
post #91 of 201
You people are RUINING MY TRIUMPH!
post #92 of 201
I still have a copy of 'Caravan of Courage', Helix. I'm not afraid to use it.
post #93 of 201
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Right, so you missed Fatboy's whole point about apologists and haters kind of being two sides of the same coin
Yeah, I kinda get the feeling he's not really reading my posts for their content, but simply looking for "points to score" or something similar. For example--I'm not so sure where my elitist bullshit taunts are coming in, or where I'm acting elitist anywhere. And I still haven't even tried to make this a personal insult-fest, either, and yet I'm getting a lot of vitriol for simply asking a couple questions and trying to start a dialog.

I haven't acknowledge your answers because you only tried to answer ONE of the questions and ignored all the others. I actually laid them all out (and they WERE different questions) in a pretty plain-to-read post, and that was the one you responded to with "You win." and then the next time you posted, it was "I don't like this psychoanalysis stuff, here's a review of Clone Wars." so, I'm not so sure my interpretation of your posts were all that off.

And for the 3 paragraphs you wrote to the "Why do you feel threatened by someone else's contradictory opinion" you didn't so much answer that question, either. You simply turned it into another 'Apologists bad' screed and that was about it. I know you said something about people marginalizing your opinion is what really pisses you off, but what makes you feel like someone holding a contradictory opinion MARGINALIZES yours?
post #94 of 201
I've learned two things from this thread:

1. The Prequels suck (especially the Gungans. Word, Helix ).

2. Litmus Configuration has very, very thin skin... especially for someone who likes to dish out the digs and personal insults with the best of 'em. Seriously, dude, what is your deal? Well, other than you just have some personal stick up your backside when it comes to me (due to your perception more than reality, I might add). I mean, my retort in this thread was simply a direct response to you being "insulted" by Charles creating it to begin with. So, you respond with an ad hominen attack. And then you have the nerve to charge me and others with being "holier than thou", "eltistist" and "hypocritical"?
post #95 of 201
Coffnrock, i hope you will believe when i say my mission to destroy objectivity were just a desperate attempt to move past the 'i'm right! you're wrong!' pigheadedness that the 'hater/apologist' name-calling game gets stuck in. there's always a different way to see things, and it's usually good to be able to recognise that even if, in the end, you decide you disagree with it. I'll happily accept that, in context, it was all a little much.
Anyway, 100 years of post-modernism rather beat me to the post.
There's nothing wrong with using the terms as short hand as long as you use the extra space created to add some content.
I hope you'll accept that the terms are too often used as a means to dismiss those that disagree with you, rather than as a starting point for actual discussion.

I think it's kind of fun that a thread for prequel bashing got derailed.

edit for some spelling and to remove some confused metahors.
post #96 of 201
Wat Tambor, the son of a bitch... he... he stole my toaster!
post #97 of 201
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Originally Posted by Fatboy Roberts
No, there were like 5 questions. You tried to answer one, and then threw up the "Why are you trying to analyze me--I dont' like that!" and wrote a decent explanation/review of Clone Wars, only after you did a pouty thing and said "Whatever you win."



No, I'm not. You seem to think the only reason I'm here is to smugly cross my shoulders and nod when I "beat you"

WOW...Do I need to go Light-side or Dark-side to learn that trick?
post #98 of 201
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Originally Posted by Nanoblech
Wat Tambor, the son of a bitch... he... he stole my toaster!
I'll hear none of your Tambor-bashing!
post #99 of 201
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
I'll hear none of your Tambor-bashing!
And he raped my Gameboy...

And assimilated my iPod...

Tambor... you FIEND!!!!
post #100 of 201
Stop it! STOP IT!
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