I rented this last night from BBuster using one of my monthly free coupons I get from their website DVD service. What I noticed was, on my receipt it says, "Own it for just $11.70 more!". Which means, I'm assuming, that since I didn't pay the $4.29 for it because of my coupon, I can essentially get it brand new for $12, while they're selling new copies in the store for $21.99. I'm not going to do it, because I want the SE, but as mentioned above, if it doesn't come with DTS, I'll get a used copy of the barebones. I just though that was interesting, though. I should've paid more attention to my rental of Madden 2006 to see how much more that would've cost.