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The Films of Alfred Hitchcock : A Franchise of Riddles

post #1 of 16
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Hello All,

I've been toying with the idea to start this thread for some time. I realize that Hitchcock's films aren't a franchise technically but I do believe that his style and form of filmmaking constitutes it's own genre and is a specific type of filmmaking that no one has been able to recreate save for some piss poor remakes of Rear Window with Christopher Reeves and the rumored remake of Vertigo starring Kate Hudson.

I was raised on the classics, the old black and white films, which I believe are the foundation of film history, a foundation that the film industry today has moved away from, and in my opinion, for the worse.

Alfred Hitchcock was a filmmaker before his time, mining visual and psychological territory that few filmmakers in that time dared to go. Hitchcock is perhaps one of only a couple of directors to actually remake his own film. In 1934 Hitchcock directed The Man Who Knew Too Much and then 22 years later remade the film with Doris Day & James Stewart in the title characters as the thwarted American family in a diabolical plot.

Hitchcock was infamous for hiring and remaking his female leads, most notably Kim Novak. Kim Novak starred in dual roles as Madeleine Elster and the tawdry Judy Barton. Judy Barton was not only made over but so was Kim Novak. In that time in Hollywood starlets had a great deal of input into their wardrobe for certain pictures but Hitchcock was a director of infamous vision and control. Miss Novak was quite upset about her wardrobe selection but Hitchcock stayed firm taking the blonde bombshell out of her usuall colors and implanting her in grays, blacks and whites to accent Madeleine's void and space cadet personality.

Vertigo was panned by critics upon its release in 1958 but as the years went by it has been cemented as Hitchcock’s masterpiece.

I would like to keep this thread ongoing if possible. We talk so much about Star Wars, the Matrix Saga, LOTR etc…, I believe that there’s a place for a discussion such as this one, and hopefully it will be a good one.

J.M. Prater
post #2 of 16
"the rumored remake of Vertigo starring Kate Hudson."

Oh good God, no! This would be very bad. I mean, the Christopher Reeve remake of Rear Window at least brought something new to the table, in that the character was now a quadriplegic, and that it was a TNT/TBS/USA/Same Difference television movie, and therefore relatively low impact. But a big screen remake is another matter entirely. Although, if Psycho wasn't safe, I suppose it stands to reason that Vertigo wouldn't be either.


P.S. Jaime, how'd the shoot go?
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Yes, Kate Hudson's production company is trying to acquire the rights of Vertigo for a remake. I don't dislike Hudson but I don't like her either. We already have one Goldie Hawn, we don't need another.

as far as the shoot PM or email me, that's all under tight wraps at the moment.

J.M. Prater
post #4 of 16
The remark about Kate Hudson raised my hackles, as well.

Vertigo is untouchable...and if another actress was gonna essay the part of Madeline Elster/Judy Barton, Kate Hudson ain't the one who should be doing it.

You're right, though: Hitch's movies are, in a way, part of a series...similar themes and characters crop up repeatedly in his work (particularly otherworldly blondes in the Tippi Hedren mold).
post #5 of 16
Maybe we should start, chronologically, by discussing the man's films. THE LODGER, in essence where he broke out (and at 26! - if I could be as lucky), is an assured debut. I'm leaving THE MOUNTAIN EAGLE out of this for the sake of argument. Amazing that a simple titles man at Famous-Players Lasky was able to direct and craft something as wondrous.

I love the beginning of the film. The scream of the woman, the dead body, and the Golden Curls sign flashing away. I was watching the DVD last summer (such a long ways past and so much has occured since) and the organ music that was composed just fit spectacularly.

Additionally, a wealth of seemingly new information was shed on his personality with Patrick McGilligan's book Hitchcock: A Life in Darkness and Light. It's a great read, if a tad long, but wholly worth every penny.

So, what's next?
post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
It's nice to see that finally this thread has picked up a little bit of steam.

As aforementioned I was raised on the classics, Hitchcock to be specific. I'll always remember being a young boy and watching Suspicion and being transfixed on the glass of glowing milk that Carey Grant carried up the stairs. There was a definite sexuality that was palpable in Hitchcock's films that was an integral part of the tension of each of his films. Shadow of a Doubt with Joseph Cotton is a great film because of the tension between Joseph Cotten and his suspecting niece.

I sorely miss Hitchcock and his contribution to the film world. Part of my admiration for M. Night Shylaman is because he seems to echo a Hitchcockian nature whether he succeeds or fails, both which he has done.

But back to Hitchcock:

Obviously his most notable pictures are Vertigo, Rear Window [which I think is cinema perfection] and a very underrated film, Dial M for Murder with Grace Kelly. Dial M For Murder is such an amazing film because of how extrodinary diabolical Ray Miland's character is but yet how cool he plays it.

Carey Grant's character in Suspicion was actually written as a killer but the studio forbid Hitchcock to make Grant capable of murder. Suffice it to say, the end of Suspicion is very, well, ambigous, you still don't fully believe Grant's character for a minute.

All very interesting stuff.
post #7 of 16
For all Hitchcock fans out there I strongly recommend Truffaut's The Bride Who Wore Black. I've only seen it recently but I was blown away, it's clearly the definitive Hitch hommage. And Bernard Hermann's score is extraordinary, it may be his finest work. Great stuff.

As for Hitch himself, surely his most sexual film is Marnie. It's so kinky!
post #8 of 16
I love the trailer for Marnie. "This film is in absolutly no way, in any shape or form, in any subtext or implication, about sex. At all." Cut in between these words are images of Connery and Tippi Hedren engaged in some form of sensual kissing or speaking in double entendres or romping around in general. Hitch realized the potential use of trailers when the common practice was to simply throw the stars on the screen and use a bunch of adjectives to hype up the picture, while rarely telling anyone what exactly the movie was. And he had so much fun with them. I love how you can watch the trailer for Psycho, and since you've likely already seen the film, be agast that Hitch is basically telling you everything that happens in the movie, but if you see it without having seen the film, you don't have a clue what he's going on about.
post #9 of 16
I saw a PBS biography on Cary Grant recently and someone in it pointed out that the crop dusting scene in North by Northwest is funny, which I don't agree with at all, and that one of the special things about it is that, simply, Cary Grant is wearing a nice suit, and looks like, well, Cary Grant: composed, smart. That is a strong contrast to the absurd situation he finds himself in.

I think anyone who loves North by Northwest needs to watch about 3 minutes of Arizona Dream for an unexpected meditation on it by Mr. Vincent Gallo.

I remember in one of the documentaries Tippie Hedren claims that Hitch came on to her on the set of the Marnie, and when she rebuffed him, he did not really talk to her again, except as required for publicity and direction.
post #10 of 16
I've seen a decent number of his films, maybe 20, and I have my own favorites and so forth. However, I really truly didn't like either Vertigo or Psycho very much at all.

And I've seen Vertigo twice, so now I am wondering if perhaps I am missing something whenever I hear it praised as a masterpiece. Would anyone be so kind as to enlighten me here?
post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 
As Far as Vertigo is concerned, f you don't care for it than it would be diffiult for myself or anyone else to convince you to like it per say.

What I will say about Vertigo is that it's hailed as Hitchcock's Masterpiece because it deals with central themes of his films as well as being very very personal. There's an admitted 'Obsession' with Vertigo from many fans and for some of us, it's difficult to explain. Obviously the film deals withmajor themes, forbidden desire, adultery of sorts, mystery, lies and murder plots.

Perhaps the best way to explain the magnificence of Vertigo is to realize Hitchcock made pure cinema, not dialogue heavy, he told a story in images as opposed to talking heads. In the beginning of the film Scottie [played by Jimmy Stewart] follows Madeleine Elster for over 30 minutes [or a good portion] and there's no talking and yet we are fully aware of what's transpiring on screen without the need for a character explaining to us what's happening. As Scottie realizes the spell that Madeleine is under so does the audience.

Vertigo is not for everyone. I would step out on a limb to say that Vertigo is for a patient audience, one very scarce in these times. Vertigo is about taking the time to understand and experience the unfolding of a story that cannot and will not be told quickly. This is why I've always been engrossed in this film and will forever be.
post #12 of 16
Vertigo is a cold and empty movie in many aspects, the emotionally empty characters, the colors, the distance between the viewer and the characters all masterfully done, but hard for me to call a favorite. An interesting commentary on the modern man's life. A classic treatment of women and their stereotypes by Hitch for sure.

My absolute favorite is Notorious. I love the cinematography, the story, Bergman, Grant, Rains are fantastic. The scene of them flying into Brazil is perfect. I love how it sets up the feeling of a new beginning...only to have Devlin send them crashing down to reality.

I am also a fan of Shadow of a Doubt. The feel of the movie being so care free, light and safe until the darker side of the world creeps in with the beloved Uncle Charlie.

Finally The 39 Steps another favorite. This film has some great comedy as well as suspense.
post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by g-dude
I love the trailer for Marnie. "This film is in absolutly no way, in any shape or form, in any subtext or implication, about sex. At all." Cut in between these words are images of Connery and Tippi Hedren engaged in some form of sensual kissing or speaking in double entendres or romping around in general.
That just sounds too out there to be real. Good old Alfred!
post #14 of 16
SHADOW OF A DOUBT is amazing. A wonderful film. Shame that Teresa Wright kicked it recently.
post #15 of 16
I couldn't pay attention to Marnie worth a damn. What did I miss here?

Edit - I'm not looking to be convinced to like a film in question, rather looking for what you think makes it great (which I likely did not perceive).
post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by Fett
SHADOW OF A DOUBT is amazing. A wonderful film. Shame that Teresa Wright kicked it recently.
Yeah...bummer. Too bad more people don't know what an amazing actor she was.
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