Star Wars:The TV Show Discussion

TFN says it's officially between III and IV.

I'm betting on a Boba Fett centric series. Just have a gut feeling. Lucas seems more aware of his popularity than any other character, and he's not central to the saga. Could be wrong.

TFN said it was officially from Lucas, but then again they're all whores, so who knows.

However, Star Trek went downhill because Rick Berman strangled it with his umbilical cord of doom. And they forgot that the show was science fiction and not a fucking soap. And also, those stupid ENEMY MINE-style stories jumped the shark after Geordi became friends with the Romulan.

I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to make Boba "Good" and "Evil" throughout the series, kinda like Angel on Buffy.

I agree that it would be a hard sell. I'm not entirely keen on the idea myself. However, since they give the impression that it will take place between III and IV and focus on a second or third tier character from the films, there is really no one else that I could think of them convincingly building a series around. I suppose they could go with something detailing the formation of the rebellion, although since it seems that alot of that will be done through behind the scenes political dealing, it wouldn't make for very exciting television.

A bounty hunter series, however, in which Fett (presented as an anti-hero) has a new quarry each week...To me, it seems like the most obvious move Lucasfilm could make.

Fett can be an interesting character when handled properly. I could see potential in a series about him set maybe ten to fifteen years after Attack of the Clones.

The Cam Kennedy Boba Fett Comics are aces.

I really, really don't see Lucas making a Boba Fett series if it involves hunting down Jedi. Nobody's going to want to watch a series in which we watch the systematic murder of the good guys week after week. Except for the kind of deviated preverts who thought "Saw" was the best horror movie ever.

Also, I'm not sure why so many people want to see something that takes place after Return of the Jedi. There's no more story left to tell. The Emperor's dead, the Empire is through, the good guys have triumphed. And please don't suggest that we get into that awful alien invasion crap from the novels. Those things make baby Jesus cry.

Why does everyone keeping bringing up the vastly overrated Boba Fett for a tv series? Absolutely no premise there.

Since everyone is being a pundit, I'll throw my worthless two cents in and predict a series centered around the emergence of the Rebellion.

A great premise there as you have the Empire as villains, the Rebel leaders in fear of the constant threat of anilation.


A Boba Fett series sounds like more dreck shat out by the Expanded Universe.

I'm not saying its a good idea, considering i'd much rather see something else. It just seems like its the most obvious choice. I'd love for them to surprise me with something new, edgy, and original, but given the rumoured time frame and the fact that it will feature a secondary character from the films, it just keeps bringing me back to Boba Fett.

But I'm not sure why you think that would be the default or obvious choice for them. If you want to talk about surprising people with something new, edgy, and original, I'd say a series in which an evil, bounty-hunting clone goes around murdering the good guys of the previous administration would fit the bill. It would also be a bad idea, and would alienate much of the fan base. It would be like making a World War II adventure series, then making the hero a Nazi commandant. It might be really interesting, but who wants to see it?

I'd say the rise the Rebellion is the safe bet. I have no doubt that Fett will become involved, but as a bad guy.

I don't see why he has to go around killing Jedi. It could be a simple bounty hunter type show, with Rebellion shakings intermittently in the background. Sorta like Renegade. Without Martin Kove as Lorenzo Lamas' brother gone evil wrestler.

And let's hope NO Lorenzo Lamas.


It must suck to have a name cooler than yourself.

Yes, there have been bounty hunter shows before (and better ones than that one), but you're forgetting one eensy weensy detail; those shows were about good bounty hunters who took down bad people. To my knowledge, "Have Gun Will Travel" was never about Paladin taking down disenfranchised heroes on the run from a corrupt government run by evil wizards. And whether it involves Jedi or not, that's what the premise of the show would be. Boba Fett is an evil character who takes jobs for the Empire, and that would mean taking down members of the Rebel Alliance, and the political enemies of corrupt and evil people. Is that really what you think George has in mind for the future of Star Wars? Really? Following a bad guy as he tries to stop heroes from fighting back against corruption? What in the content of these five movies leads you to believe that he would be interested in that?

I was under the impression that Boba Fett was a morally ambiguous bounty hunter that took jobs for anyone.

It could make for an interesting show in the sense that he could be doing something different every week. Another job, another planet, another creepy alien boss or target.

I think it's an obvious choice just becuase it has that potential. There's no guarantee they will go in that direction but where's the harm in speculating?

Yes, by all means lets strip away every single ounce of mystery surrounding Boba Fett that is left.



OR, let's not. Boba Fett could be a great shadowy villain that shows up every once and a while and people whisper about, or hear rumors of; otherwise, it's just not right to expose so much about him.


A Star Wars TV show that has "Original Trilogy Characters" that show up every once in a while, like Mon Mothma or Admiral Akbar would be alright, but they should focus on all new characters and leave the major players out of it. PLEASE! It would really be for the best.

While ideas are being thrown out, I would focus it on one young Jedi who has gone into hiding, his master killed during the purge. Episode after episode, he eludes the Empire and various bounty hunters while learning of more and more Jedi deaths. It's just a constant struggle from beginning to end. He meets allies, enemies, questions his faith, and on and on. In the climactic 100th episode, perhaps he faces either Palpatine or Vader, and goes out like a true hero. Perhaps somewhere in his journeys he meets some more major OT characters, like maybe even encountering Luke as a boy or something. Of course this character would have to die, and the ending to the series would be sad, but rewarding.

I rather like Jubei's idea. It has kind of a Fugitive/Kung Fu/Incredible Hulk quality to it. A Jedi wandering a galaxy that's losing faith in Jedi, helping people, then disappearing lest he be discovered. Boba Fett would be like Jack McGee, always one step behind.

You reading this, George?

And Daryl Zero, Boba Fett is not morally ambiguous, for one reason; there is no moral ambiguity in the Star Wars universe. There is light and there is dark. Even the politics adhere to this. Han Solo plays at being morally ambiguous, but in the end, he can't deny that he is really a good guy. The closest anyone comes to being ambiguous is when they're too self-involved to see the conflict (Uncle Owen, for instance).

I dont know about the Fett thing. I guess it is the character that has caught on the most despite criminally brief screen time in the original flix. Just because he is in it would not mean he would have to be the focal character. Im sure if Fett was in it, the Hutts would feature too. You could get a shitload of mileage out of stories involving that set up surely

Am I the only one who hates 3-D computer animated series? They always look like garbage.

No Werbal. I wanted Clone Wars/SJ-styled animation. Rewatched the Volume II episodes last night (21-25) and they were GORGEOUS. I can't imagine it's that expensive, either. The CG vehicles work fine.

I guess shinier is better,
Chuck

But...but his costume is SO COOL!

I rather like the fugitive jedi idea.

As for a show focusing on the formation of the rebel alliance...I'm not too keen on this idea since Episode III sets up the alliance as being formed behind the scenes, with Bail and Mon Mothma saying one thing yet doing another. I suppose that has the potential for an intriguing series, but it would require senate scenes complete with lacklustre political deliberation (just like the Phantom Menace, hooraay!) I dunno, that doesn't scream enganging television.

As for the Boba Fett idea, I also feel this would be a bad idea. The only reason I say it would be "obvious" on the part of Lucasfilm, is that, based on interviews, DVD commentaries, etc. it seems Lucas has really picked up on the (bizzare) fan love for the character, going out of his way to add aditional, and unneccesary shots of him in the special editions and include his character in AOTC. It just feels that, by adding Boba Fett, Lucas felt he was giving the fans more of what they want, and I could see a similar logic dictate who he would build a series around. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to make sense in my own warped brain.

Lightsabers is what will sell a show. There must be Jedi or other lightsaber wielders as the main character or else it will never capture the public's imagination. Boba Fett, morality aside, is just not cool enough.

There is no mystery left. Everything that was attractive about the character has pretty much been fucked in the ass by ATTACK OF THE CLONES.

I like the wandering Jedi idea, but I also like the idea of using guest spots with Obi-Wan on Tatooine, but I dunno if Ewan would go for it.

CSI: Coruscant

One thing that has proven to not work in Sci-Fi in the past few years is the ensemble ship crew setting. Star Wars better not emulate Star Trek/Andromeda/Firefly/Babylon 5/ or that shitty Sci-Fi channel series (what was it called? Farshit?) in TV land or it will just tank outright, and I would hope so. It's a tired, tired premise. A group of friends who sort of hang together every once in a while would be cool, but it needs to focus on one guy (or girl) hopping around the galaxy. When I think about it, my idea is very The Fugitive or Kung-Fu like. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Maybe he could have one good friend or two that are secondary characters and are prominent, but other than that, keep it focused on that one guy.

It's been a long time since TV's really done that, hasn't it? Everything's about an ensemble now-a-days. CSI, Buffy/Angel, Smallville, the evening soaps (of course they would be), the various crew-on-a-starship shows, Stargate, they focus on one or two main characters maybe, but for the most part, everyone gets their day in the sun. So tired. I mean, you have to shift focus every once in a while to keep some variety, but really, you could make a character interesting enough to not deviate from his story too much.

Taxi Speeder Confessionals

"Well... Jesus, I can't believe I'm telling you this... This one time I fucked a Walrusman."

Real Sex: Tatooine

"Oola really seems to love it when I pull on her tentacles, and she also has this weird Rancor fetish"

Now that would give me nightmares

Survivor: Hoth

'It was all going so well until Jerry's foot odour attracted that wampa...'

Well, fine, while we're hashing out jokes, here's a re-heated one of mine from the other TV show thread:



Can you imagine a cooking show with Yoda on the Food Network?


"Mmmm... making fried mynock wings today we are."

"Oven at 350 degrees you must set."

"Snake Pudding tomorrow we will make. Tune in you must."

An article over at TFN (and therefore its legitimacy is seriously questionable) is claiming that Amy Allen (Aayla Secura/Blue Twilek Jedi) has discussed the possibility of appearing in the TV show with good old George. I was under the impression she winds up on the wrong end of a blaster in ROTS, but if true, this certainly lends support to Jubei's fugitive Jedi series.

I'm pretty sure she bites it in ROTS. She could always be made up to be another character. She doesn't have the most recognizable face under all that make-up. She could go for the natural blonde look and be a totally new character, like a smuggler or something. A female outlaw would kind of kick ass.

She bites it in the script:

Aayla: Steady, steady.

They all look around for signs of the enemy. Clone Commander Bly moves up behind the Jedi.

Aayla: (continuing) Bly, do you think they're droids?

Bly: No.

Bly blasts Aayla in the back. The other clones fire on her as she hits the ground.


But according to Allen, she "doesn't die." Maybe they changed it during reshoots, or leave it ambiguous (although being shot point blank in the back seems pretty definate), or maybe the actress doesn't know what she's talking about. I'm betting on the latter.

I had heard that this thing was going to last 100 episodes. Any bets on if it ends with the Rebel battle to get the Death Star plans?

I've been hearing that the new live action series will star a dead horse, and each episode will guest-star a character from the Star Wars universe savagely beating that motherfucker into paste.

Really? I heard that they couldn't possibly be worse than the ass-rape Prequels.

And i think 100 episodes is the minumum for syndication and all teh long term money that will bring in.

The question is: how many episodes per DVD release?

A show that actually spans all 20 years from ROTS to ANH would be, um... dumb. I ignore the EU because I really don't mind not knowing everything about everyone in the SW universe. I've really washed my hands of the prequels because I really didn't need to know the backstory told to me, and I really had my own ideas about it anyway, plus I didn't think it was done very well. I'll see ROTS just to say I've seen it. A TV show could work only if we had brand new characters in brand new settings doing brand new stuff. I am actually afraid of something like what Scratch is talking about happening. He's sardonic, but he's right. It could very well be that way.

Trying to cover that entire 20 years between the movies would just be going to far to fill in every single plot detail. It's unnecessary.

I don't think a TV show would be very interesting to me, honestly. If there's no Jedi, there's no lightsabers, and that's the best thing about the films for me.

If it's an entirely new thing? Sure, why not - give it a shot. Timing's right, after all, seeing as how most of the big sci-fi shows got cancelled (I'm looking at you, Star Trek - I always said you weren't very interesting). Plus, this has the Star Wars brand name behind it, which means higher production values.

On the other hand, I have no interest in all this "between the scenes" nonsense. Move the franchise forward. Either continue where Jedi left off, or do something entirely different. One of my biggest problems with the prequels is that, quite simply, this is a story that never needed to be told. Darth Vader was a Jedi who turned evil, and his son saved him. That's it. That's what gave the character his mystique and appeal. Now, every time I see the original movies (SW was on this weekend), all I can think about is that whiny fuck Hayden Christiansen having a teenage tantrum, throwing things around and complaining about sand.

Boba Fett used to be a bad-ass bounty hunter. Now he's a spoiled little kid with an irritating laugh. Yoda was wise Jedi master, now I picture him bouncing off walls like Sonic the Hedgehog. And I'm sure ROTS with do something to forever taint my memories of Chewbacca, like throw in a scene involving his dingleberries.

Please, George Lucas - if you're going to wring every last dollar out of this franchise, please at least attempt something innovative.

opening narration]
Narrator: After The Clone Wars a crack Jedi unit was sentenced to death for a crime they didn't commit. These Jedi promptly escaped from a death to the Empire underground. Today, still wanted by the Empire, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the J-Team.

Darth Vader WILL turn up during the end of season finales. Or, you know, if the ratings start plummeting. Whatever plans they have, however autonomous they are, they'll still be chasing ratings by bringing out the big guns or really cheap excuses for fan-pandering if it all starts going south.

It's poopoodle reading? What does interactive Yoda say to some of our predictions?

Maybe it'll be an extension of the Star Wars Christmas special, where Bea Arthur, Chewbacca and that fucking short-order cook from AOTC run a goddamn space diner by day and solve mysteries by night.

This was my thought exactly when I heard of the TV show. It must have a jedi or two and have lightsabers.

And it must show a lot of the Empire, because the Empire is cool.

At the C3 - Sunday Nick Gillard Prgm. He told of hinting to GL that he could be looking for work (Couldn't find a finer stunt Co-Ordinator) GL said - Your a Features guy, Not a TV guy (Doh!)

I really hope that because this is TV, it's not going 2 B dumbed down too much

While realizing that the FX, stunts Etc. are not going 2 always B top-shelf, It will suck if everything is 3rd rate - I'd like to see Lucas Etc. continue 2 push the envelope!

From TheForce.net:

So many great spinoff characters to choose from!

- Jar Jar Binks (obviously the top contender, given Lucas' well-deserved love for the character)
- That goddamn short order cook with four arms
- Captain Eyepatch
- A young Boba Fett - from silent extra to TV star!
- Wat Tambor, travelling transistor radio
- The flying Italian junk dealer
- The two-headed racetrack announcer
- The two Asian stereotype aliens - it could be a buddy comedy called ARIENS!