6 Spiderman Movies!?!?!?

I think you can have too much of a good thing. Six movies would be pushing it a bit. As it stands anyway wasnt Tobey Maguire reluctant to even go as far as three?

6 movies, I think they are writing for the trade.
Joking aside thats a fairly strong committment from any creative team. Raimi may say he feels very passionate about the character now, but I can't think the guy would still feel that way after movie 3 or 4. I would have to think that he has some idea in where it will go at this point then.

This is the second time the "six movies" idea has been floated, leading me to believe Pascal has a plethora of ideas for continuing this series beyond Tobery Maguire and Kirsten Dunst. I remember one report specified that if Maguire wanted to leave, they would write him a smaller part in a "Batman Beyond"-type installment. Part of me shudders to think what that implies.

Anyway, sure, six movies. Bring me Kraven, Mysterio, Jackal, et al.

Well... if this is true, let's hope Raimi stays passionate.

The problem is that burnout will set in about the fourth or fifth film.
I always thought part of being a true genius is to know when to quit and move on.

It's very clear the arc so far set up does not lend itself to six films, as Parker's gotta grow up, probably by the end of the third film. Unlike Bond, Spider-Man's aging and maturity are being addressed here, and these aren't being treated like serials.

Six films are a possibility, but you can't really come up with a character arc as pivotal as Parker entering the real world as an adult. Perhaps he becomes a teacher like in the comics and matures into a serious member of society, but that would stray very far from both reality and action.

I can't imagine them reaching a fifth film with Parker remaining the series' most interesting character, which is why I expect someone else to join the fray. It could be a kid, it could be Harry (who hopefully they don't kill). Dylan Baker is still waiting in the wings, and J. Jonah and his son can't ever really be out of the picture. Plus, Betty Brant, a love interest in the comics has been in both movies, and her relationship with the Jackal(in the comics) kinda contributes to the whole "clone" saga. Also, there is another cast member cameoing in SPIDER-MAN 3 that no one is talking about: Larry David. No kidding. Vulture?

So, the seeds have been planted, even if they may have been studio-mandated seeds that don't fit with Raimi's grand plan.

This means...

SPIDEY 3...


but with Mary Jane


SPIDER-MAN 4


A real monster mash with a new director, and a lady stuck in between...



And if Man Wolf is lame, then...

Larry David

You have the image codes backwards.

SPIDER-MAN 5
A new lady...


a new costume...


And a lethal new threat...



as well as some laughs...



SPIDER-MAN 6
and then his world comes crashing down, and he experiences ultimate defeat...




followed by a big surprise...









and maybe... SPIDER-MAN 7?


Wait, why won't these pics work?

Oops, thanks for that. Chud did that somehow.

Well, my worries are the same as everybody´s. How would the arc work for six movies (by the end of part 2 Parker´s issues were on a good standing, and i don´t even know where Raimi will be going with part 3)? Will Raimi stay all the way? Will Raimi stay interested all the way? Will Maguire stay?

Because without those two things could go down the drain pretty quick. Not because Maguire´s the best actor in the world or anything, but because the two first movies have such a strong identity, and that was really connected to Maguire and Raimi.

There´s enough material in the comics to make 12 movies if they wanted, sure. Lots of nice friends and foes. Lots of variety for sure. But development-wise it´s harder to see where they would go. A 2-part or 3-part arc would definetly help killing some of those 6 movies... Make part 3 continue right into part 4. Have Harry kill Mary Jane on part 3 or 4 then end it right there. Make direct arcs... That would make things easier to swallow.

I´m skeptic, though.

If it takes Six Spidermans to get me Venom then so be it. But I think they should take a nice little break between these three and the next three.

Anybody who thinks that Raimi will kill off Mary Jane is living in another universe.

No, we're just full of hope.

Spare a thought for the CHUD (very) minority (a.k.a. me) who are entirely bewildered by all things Comic Book. <grin>

You could kill her off, you'd just have to make sure that you give it proper respects. The death of MJ along the lines of the death of that woman in the Bourne Supremacy won't cut it. Has to be big, has to be theatrical. Probably have Peter mourn her for the tail end of one movie, into the beginning of another.

Now the trick becomes getting her replacement. Gwen Stacy being an obvious pick. But the deal is, you must get a quality, charismatic actress for the role. Another dud like Dunst will make the entire thing ring hollow. A quality replacement and people won't even remember what the initials "MJ" even stand for.

'Cause killing Mary Jane is so in keeping with the spirit of the films...which is the spirit of the comics...which is the spirit of not killing Mary Jane.

The character in the movies isn't Mary Jane. Kirsten Dunst certainly isn't Mary Jane. Far too bland, dull, spiritless. I'd rather they kill her (as the comics did with Gwen Stacy) and get a fresh start with Ms Stacy herself.

Sam Raimi making 6 Spidey films?
Great, now we´ll never get to see Evil Dead 4.

Do I dare reveal my hope that at least one of these movies has Spider-Man sharing an apartment with Fire-Star and Iceman?

There's no way they can make 6 Spider-Man films without making some radical changes. And I'm going to give some major kudos to fabfunk, because that's a pretty plausible, interesting take on the series' future. I'd definitely watch it.

Kirsten Dunst has been terrible. Period. They audition every hottie in the biz, and ultimately settle on her, possible the least attractive young leading lady possible. Even if you're one of those who praise her big tits (because those are a Hollywood rarity) or weird features, she is not the ravishing beauty that MJ is supposed to be. I could maybe have bought her as Gwen Stacy (and that was probably the way to go given the plans they seem to have), but I don't buy her as Mary Jane Watson, supermodel and the kind of sexpot you just drop your jaw for. She says the lines and cries around, but I think she's been pretty bland overall.

They are going to be pushing it to keep the MJ/Peter story compelling through another film, because it was starting to drag in #2. Kill her off, give him some grit again. Let's see him flirt with the dark side a bit, probably the black suit at some point. Let's see Black Cat, a true hottie and a physical threat as well. Venom has one very good film in him, after that he's just as redundant and done to death as he is the comics.

And if they go with anything even remotely involving clones, it's all over.

I'm imagining this as the next Friends and I so want to see it (as opposed to never wanting to see an episode of Friends).




Back on subject:
Since they fooled around with the stories already, I wouldn't mind if they killed two birds with one stone by simply combining Black Cat with MJ (or at least what MJ shoulda been). Black Cat's secret identity would be MJ instead of Felicia Hardy. Heck, they can both be oblivious to each other's secret, lots of potential then.

Yay, two pants-bustingly sexy characters portrayed by the same butter face.

Haven't you people learned ANYTHING?!?! If they make six not only will the second three take twenty years to make, they won't be anywhere near as good (though they will make great bank).

Let´s hope they introduce the black suit in one of the movies!

This is PR bullshit. There will not be six films. Not six by Raimi anyway. Seriously think about that for a moment. It will not happen.

Oh it could happen. It probably (and I hope) it won't, but it could.

No, no... I meant kill off the current MJ (preferably in a horrible way), then introducing the new love interest who acts and feels like what MJ shoulda been. Heck, name her Gwen Stacy just to drive in the irony.

As long as each movie makes good money,they will keep making them.If Toby or Raimi don't want to keep going,then they will simply be replaced. The studio will keep cracking them out as long as people keep seeing them.It's as simple as that.

I'd be happy if Raimi is involved in some manner. Even if he just exec produces, it will have his stamp of approval as well as the flavor he brings to the movie.

Besides, his brother Ted needs the work.

First off, I think they WILL kill off Mary Jane (ala Gwen Stacy). Tobey Maguire has stated before that he will stick with these films as long as they will have him, and I imagine he'll keep that promise as long as they take breaks and allow him to do a few other films on the side (like they are right now basically). Kirsten Dunst has basically stated that Spider-Man 3 will be her last. That means they'll either kill her or recast. I think Raimi will go for the former, and then bring in Black Cat on down the line, as they have considered off and on for awhile now. This works in many ways. If Harry ends up being the cause of it, then it will finally drive a permanent wedge between the two and set us up for a huge clash. It will also cause more hatred between Parker and John Jameson for use later on, be it in the form of Man-Wolf or Venom.

Three more films beyond the upcoming one will also allow for a slow build-up to Venom as well, which is what we really need for that character to work. Villains for 4 & 5? You already have The Lizard set up. You could also bring in Mysterio or Kraven or the Vulture if you wished, leaving Venom as the villain for Spider-Man 6. I don't think we'll see Carnage though, especially if Raimi sticks with the series. We all know that Raimi is not too fond of the character, but Venom's popularity is so great that if they continue with the films past Spidey 3, there's no way that they'll get away without using him. Carnage, however, is just a Venom knockoff. If Raimi doesn't like Venom, there's no way he could like Carnage. If they bring in Carnage, they need to allow Venom his own film first though. Whoever for 4, Venom for 5, and Venom & Carnage for 6. I still maintain that Carnage won't make the leap to film though. When all is said and done, I'd imagine the saga would play out similar to this...

Spider-Man = Green Goblin, Peter graduates, Peter falls in love, a hero is born.
Spider-Man 2 = Dr. Octopus, Peter struggles with keeping dual lives, atonement, and love is cemented.
Spider-Man 3 = Sandman, Harry takes on the Goblin mantle, dealing with the loss of a loved one (Mary Jane).
Spider-Man 4 = The Lizard and Black Cat, new love interest, entering the work force, Eddie Brock and the new suit are introduced.
Spider-Man 5 = Villains? Problems with suit, various life problems and issues, Brock is fired.
Spider-Man 6 = Venom and various life problems.


There is a lot of foreshawdowing in the final scenes of Spider-Man 2, especially the funeral bell-esque sound during that final shot of Mary Jane. Raimi is using the story to portray the problems and issues of entering adulthood and the sacrifices and heartbreak that one must always endure eventually. Everyone loses a close friend at some point in their lives and I'm sure this will factor into the series storyline somewhere. Couple that with the foreshadowing of that final shot in Spidey 2, and that Kirsten Dunst has stated a desire to leave the series after 3, and you can see what it probably adds up to. I think we are in store for a delayed Gwen Stacy scenerio. Peter vs. Harry, and Mary Jane will be killed in the crossfire.

Is any of that right? I imagine some of it is, but only Raimi himself truly knows. Even if he doesn't stick around for all six, I can see him at least helping to lay the groundwork for those installments. I'm guessing that if he isn't burnt out after Spider-Man 3, there's going to be break of a couple of years while everyone does their own thing (Evil Dead 4 maybe?). I couldn't picture any of those involved wanting to head straight out of one Spider-Man trilogy and into another.

After more thought, I'd do it this way....


Spider-Man 4 = John Jameson in space, Eddie Brock is introduced, and the villains are the Lizard and the Black Cat. Love interest introduce with Felicia Hardy.

Spider-Man 5 = Jameson crash lands, ship is carrying symbiote, Spider-Man saves. Jameson (or someone else) hires Kraven, Chameleon, and Shocker (maybe Rhino as well) to assassinate Spider-Man. That would get you a quasi-mini-Sinister Six. Problems arise with suit, Parker rejects it, and it bonds with Brock at the end.

Spider-Man 6 = Brock becomes Venom and seeks vengeance.

Since DC stole Bryan Singer for Superman, if I were Marvel and Sonny I would hire Mickeal Keaton for Spider-Man 4 to be Hobgoblin. Have the storyline swerve people into thinking Harry will wear his father`s outfit and weapons and become a villain, even have a few candidates for the role HB creating this whole mystery like Hobgoblin was first introduced in the comics. Keaton would play some sort of important figure in the story as say...The Mayor of New York. Yo could have this backstory of the mayor being blackmailed by the mob and Peter trying to help him and this could set Keaton`s character off into becoming the villain. It would be something to see Keaton acting with all the panache he showed he could do as Beetlejuice.

Where in the hell did you get this idea, Purple Archer?

Part of it from the original storyline in the Spider-Man comic that introduced Hobgoblin. Basicly there was this whole mystery about who he was. He looked like Green Goblin, smelled like Green Goblin so Spidey thought he was Norman Osborne(that Willem Defoe played in the flick) but he wasn`t Norman. A few were thought as Hobby like Flash Thompson(Peter`s once bully now friend), then reporter Ned Leeds. Anyway there was this big conspiracy until it was revealed that two businessman brothers pulled it off, two guys with a schizo complexe one a weakling, the other the bully. Anyway it was revealed that the bully was in fact the weakling and the weakling was the one pulling the strings(a la Keyzor Sose). It started as a business thing with a few industrialists trying to do something illegal but then they each tried to kill the other until one of them and his brother went batshit and Hobgoblin was created and he murdered the others.

My idea would be to have someone in any an important position(like say the New York commish or NY Mayor) play this game...but with Harry Osborn and a few others. Hobgoblin crashs on the scene, everybody thinks it`s Harry...but it`s the good Mayor. You would need somebody pretty charimatic to do that and middle aged...and who can go nuts very convincingly. So Keaton is the man, plus he should be in a super-hero movie, he`s too good for this to not happen.

What`s funny is that I thought about it way before I knew anything about Revenge of the Sith. eh

Something occured to me the other day after the Topher Grace announcement.

I'm starting to wonder if the whole "six films" thing isn't simply cover for another "six". I'm starting to wonder if they'll every few months announce another actor who's playing an undisclosed part in the third flick until there are five of them. We'll hear rumore about a bunch of different villains, but nothing will ever be confirmed at least not anytime soon.

What we'll end up with, of course, is the Sinister Six - a Harry Osbourne goblin plus five others. They'd be dangling out the future sequels simply as cover for the large number of villains they'd have to design. Logically, then, Grace could be playing someone like Electro who could never carry a movie and thus is perfect for the Sinister Six.

The original Sinister Six was Sandman, Doc Ock, Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, and Kraven. Sandman's effectively a lock, and Doc Ock is out (but Goblin is in), so the other four might make sense. Just a thought.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/sp...ws.php?id=3161

I'd guess Hydroman. Meh.

Actually, that sounds like Chameleon, if anything.

Yeah - the Chameleon

I'm still thinking Sandman, a Sandman by way of pseudo-science, like nano-technology or something. But the Chameleon does jive with his hints as well. And it kind of plays into other reports of Church getting prosthetics fittings and things of that nature. They better say something at the ComicCon in July!