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Am I an arrogant American?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Am I an arrogant American?

Or maybe I should rephrase that to read, “am I an arrogant speaker of the English Language”?


(This was brought to mind by something that Geoff said in the Books thread)

I tend to respond to everyone with whom I interact on a message board as if English is their primary language. I certainly don’t try to discriminate against people for whom English isn’t a primary language, but it has been pointed out to me that maybe I poke fun at people for what I assume are usage errors, when the reality is that they might in fact be language errors.

Does this make me a bitch?
post #2 of 23
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Originally Posted by J.K.Foster
Am I an arrogant American?

Or maybe I should rephrase that to read, “am I an arrogant speaker of the English Language”?


(This was brought to mind by something that Geoff said in the Books thread)

I tend to respond to everyone with whom I interact on a message board as if English is their primary language. I certainly don’t try to discriminate against people for whom English isn’t a primary language, but it has been pointed out to me that maybe I poke fun at people for what I assume are usage errors, when the reality is that they might in fact be language errors.

Does this make me a bitch?
No, you aren't arrogant. You just made a mistake.

We all do. It's what makes us human.
post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
Yeah, but I'm thinking that I should take a better look at myself. You're not the first person to point this out to me, and with the internet being such a global community, I think maybe I'm doing myself, and the people with whom I post, a disservice by being so quick to make a joke, and not maybe stopping to consider that there might be a language barrier.

Work with me here, man, I'm trying to have an epiphany.
post #4 of 23
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Originally Posted by J.K.Foster
Yeah, but I'm thinking that I should take a better look at myself. You're not the first person to point this out to me, and with the internet being such a global community, I think maybe I'm doing myself, and the people with whom I post, a disservice by being so quick to make a joke, and not maybe stopping to consider that there might be a language barrier.

Work with me here, man, I'm trying to have an epiphany.
LOL, okay. It's a measure of this site's meaty goodness that so many people from other countries want to contribute. I guess many of us just don't appreciate the true ramifications of the term "Global Community".

Vive la difference, as they say.
post #5 of 23
It’s also worth remembering that it’s not just foreign language members we should pay special attention to. Eenin, for instance, suffers from dyslexia. That guy has taken some fearful pummeling from Chewers who are entirely oblivious to his condition (this is despite the fact he states he’s dyslexic in his .sig)
post #6 of 23
eenin doesn't get shit for being dyslexic, Geoff. Everybody knows he's dyslexic. He mentions it on a daily basis. He gets shit because he's a psychotic fucking asshole, and he can't hide that behind a learning disability.
post #7 of 23
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
eenin doesn't get shit for being dyslexic, Geoff.
He has, mate. I've seen it. Granted just about everyone ceases the moment they discover his condition. But it has happened.

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He gets shit because he's a psychotic fucking asshole, and he can't hide that behind a learning disability.
Eenin is certainly one of a kind. <grin>
post #8 of 23
Oh no, see, I'll make fun of him for being dyslexic. Why? Because, as I said, he's a psychotic fucking asshole. He tries to pull the "but I'm dyslexic" card, and you can't do that after you've been a complete, irredeemable twat. Dyslexia is a real problem, and I wouldn't use that as an insult. But in eenin's case, he's foregone any right to be treated like a real boy.

So guess what?

HA HA! EENIN IS DYSLEXIC! WHAT'S THE MATTER, EENIN? CAN'T READ RIGHT? HA HA HA!
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
Oh no, see, I'll make fun of him for being dyslexic. Why? Because, as I said, he's a psychotic fucking asshole. He tries to pull the "but I'm dyslexic" card, and you can't do that after you've been a complete, irredeemable twat. Dyslexia is a real problem, and I wouldn't use that as an insult. But in eenin's case, he's foregone any right to be treated like a real boy.

So guess what?

HA HA! EENIN IS DYSLEXIC! WHAT'S THE MATTER, EENIN? CAN'T READ RIGHT? HA HA HA!
Remind me to never get on the wrong side of you, AH.

<grin>
post #10 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
..... irredeemable twat. .....

That's funny and I'm going to steal that. (with your permission, of course)
post #11 of 23
Just don't be an egregious douche, and we should get along fine.

I do think you're nuttier than a fruitcake, though. Just sayin', is all.
post #12 of 23
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Originally Posted by Agent Helix
I do think you're nuttier than a fruitcake, though. Just sayin', is all.
Considering some of the things I've been called over the last week, I'll take that as a compliment. <g>
post #13 of 23
"Global Community"? Only 10% of the worlds population has access to the internet. And most of them would be in America. You have no reason to feel arrogant. English is the most widely spoken language. Spanish is next I think, then Mandarin (which I would love to learn).
post #14 of 23
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DeviatedPrevert
....Only 10% of the worlds population has access to the internet.....
Really? Is it that low?

I didn't know that.
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by J.K.Foster
Really? Is it that low?

I didn't know that.
13.9%
post #16 of 23
eenin pronounces his name "Nine".
post #17 of 23
Eenin describes getting into a woman's knickers as 'Third Reich.'
post #18 of 23
Actually Mandarin is by far the world's most spoken language, and then Spanish and English. Better start learning those ideograms Geoff.

http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by J.K.Foster
I tend to respond to everyone with whom I interact on a message board as if English is their primary language. I certainly don’t try to discriminate against people for whom English isn’t a primary language, but it has been pointed out to me that maybe I poke fun at people for what I assume are usage errors, when the reality is that they might in fact be language errors.

Does this make me a bitch?
J.K.,
I think the fact that you have the self-awareness to ask this question at all proves that you're not "a bitch." I think you just take the English language more seriously than a lot of folks do, something that I have been guilty of myself in the past. For me, it took moving to a country where English is not the primary language to open my eyes.

Before I moved to Japan, I was merciless when it came to critiquing the writings of others on the Internet. Some of this was due to the fact that I worked as a writer and editor for many years. But I also viewed it as a symptom of laziness that's fostered by the anonymity that we enjoy online. Very rarely did I stop to consider that English is not everyone's first language.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, I realize how hard it is to communicate effectively in a different language, even one that you've studied for a while. I find it admirable that those who aren't completely fluent in a language would even try to express themselves in a public forum. Accordingly, I've learned to ease up a bit and try to keep the overall message in mind.

On the topics of the universality of English and global Internet access, I think we should remember that although just 13 percent of the world's population has access, this 13 percent is distributed around the world. According to a report by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), many countries including Belgium (10.34%), Denmark (11.11%), Iceland (11.22), Japan (8.6%), Korea (23.17%), Netherlands (9.2%), Sweden (9.16%) and Switzerland (9.3%) have higher penetration of broadband Internet access than the U.S. (8.25%). Note that none of these countries use English as a first language. Even without broadband access, Japanese and Koreans can access the Internet web pages from their mobile phones.

We visit CHUD because we love flim. These same films are also enjoyed worldwide. The fact that sites like CHUD, Ain't It Cool News, Dark Horizons, etc. often provide the first information on new films ensures that they will have at least a few international visitors each day. It takes guts to post in a second language (How many of us can even attempt it?). The last thing they need is to be scared off because they forget an occasional pronoun or misspell a word.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by DeviatedPrevert
Only 10% of the worlds population has access to the internet. And most of them would be in America.
actually, internet usage (same link as geoff included in his message):

asia, 300 million users, 34 % of all users in the world.
europe, 260 millions, 29 % of all users.
north america, 220 millions, 25 %.

so much for the "most would be in america", eh, DP?
post #21 of 23
Most of the ones HERE would be, smart guy.
post #22 of 23
i guess i was deceived by his use of the words "world's population", helix. no?
post #23 of 23
Yes. It was a very clever deception indeed.
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