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Originally Posted by Grofield
No, of course not. I wrote that listening to other people talk and make jokes over a movie for the entire running time of a TV program is a waste of time. That's not the same thing as stand-up comedy, is it? Stand-up comedy derives humor from the common experiences of life. MST3K derived humor from the presumed faults of B-grade/low-budget films (some of which were easy targets -- so why bother anyway?) Can you see the difference? The incredible success of this show suggests to me that many people (and yes, even some serious movie fans like yourself) need reinforcement when it comes to their opinions, and this is the perfect way for them to figure out which films are worthless or in poor taste, without ever being allowed to view the film (minus the commentary) or form an opinion about it themselves. Thus, someone jumps onto this thread and denigrates DANGER DIABOLIK simply because it was included on the MST3K program.
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The incredible success of the show suggests that it was funny. It had nothing to do with reinforcing someone's opinion of what is and is not a bad movie. 90% of what MST3K presented in its ten-year run as a show would be universally considered bad movies by a wide range of critics. Easy targets, you say? Again, you miss the point of the show, which was to make fun of bad movies. What's the point of making fun of "good" movies? Do you think that would have been successful? Sure, they stretched the boundaries of their premise at times, as was the case with Danger Diabolik, but it was definitely a strange movie with some wacky goings-on, so I think it still fits.
I have no interest in letting anyone tell me which movies are and are not bad, and I wouldn't assume that just because it was played for laughs on MST it is a guaranteed stinker on its own. You are insulting people, again, for liking a show they found entertaining, when one's appreciation of MST has nothing to do with which movies they appreciate or how intelligent their opinions of movies in general might be. Make a case for why you don't like the show, if you must. You are free to not like it. Just leave out the part where you judge those who do enjoy it as having less motivation and intelligence than you do. That's why I'm angry, and that's why you are getting an ass-chewing. I agree that the person who brought up MST3K as related to Danger Diabolik is making a somewhat hollow judgment, but please, keep your insults to yourself.