REVOLVER teaser trailer - Page 2

Not cool.

It is amazing how badly he let his relationship affect his filmmaking abilites. I could see it maybe if he was married to Beyonce, but Madonna?

In know way do I mean to say Ritchie's career is on any level with Scorsese, but it sounds a bit like Ritchie is getting the kind of flack Scorsese received by some for going back to the GOODFELLAS well with CASINO. A gripe I have never understood. Ritchie fumbled the ball on his last play so I can't really blame him for wanting to go back to his strengths before taking the experimental route.

I can’t really comment on his decision to go with Revolver instead of the other movie. There are myriad reasons for a film not being made as we both know. Perhaps it was just impossible to do at this time.

Mate, I’m sick to the back teeth of Guy Ritchie bashing. I see it everywhere. Like dead people. When I come across another someone who, to me, appears to take delight from hammering his ability with Swept Away (you’ve got to admit – it’s hard not to imagine someone smiling whilst writing “falling flat on his arse”) I’m just going to have to say something.

I haven’t written him a pass at all. I’m just looking at the situation in a pragmatic fashion. As they say in the police force: best to not get involved with “domestics”.

I find it hard to be “scathing” about such a decision, and as stated we don’t know the reasons behind his decision to do Revolver.

I don’t recall asking for Richie to be cut critical slack for any of his movies. I am merely stating he’s still very young and a relative novice. And I fail to see how he can’t extend himself whilst remaining in one genre. Who decreed this?


Well, the first Italians they meet are black-suit clad Mafiosi. How’s that for an introduction to Italy?

Dan, I think you are being a touch simplistic. Mike Read wasn’t a thug, but he was certainly a thief – and hardly a perfect Jewish stereotype.

Absolutely not, but it’s also true to say that the Jewish community plays a massive role in legitimate diamond import/export trade in this country. Anyone who has visited the world famous Jewellery Quarter in Birmingham knows this. It's not a stretch to imagine some might also be involved in illegitimate activities too without tripping the stereotype tripwire.

I got the feeling the characters in question suffered in the cutting room. But in any case I just can’t see how you can start spewing out phrases such as “atrociously assembled piece of narrative” in the same sentence as Guy Ritchie. “Average” I can accept, “poor” – maybe, but “atrocious” – given some of the dross churned out over the years? Mate, you sound like some kind of outraged moonbat struck off the AICN register.

First off, kudos to Dan and Geoff for one of the better film debates I've seen on here in a while.

I myself really enjoyed "Lock Stock" and "Snatch", as I think Ritchie has a knack for interesting characters, some good dialogue, and he's got a nice style, if at times overdone. I guess its what you compare films to. I've seen plenty of bad British gangster films, and bad movies in general, so I have enjoyed his stuff quite a bit. I somewhat see the stereotype argument, but I don't think its too in-your-face, especially not considering some of Tarantino's ear-splittingly racist dialogue as well. Either way, the black characters are buffoons in a movie mostly populated by buffoons, the Jews crooks in a movie where everyone is crooked.

I would agree more that it's lazy characterization rather than evidence of some covert racist outlook.

That all said, "Revolver" looks pretty good. I loved the musical choice, and was surprised and sort of impressed that, while he's somewhat known (for better or worse) for his dialogue, Ritchie included none of it. The chicks look hot, Statham's more haggard look works for me, and it does seem quite a bit darker.

Is the "Autumn" release for the U.S.?

Not true. He hasn't called you an asshat yet.

Let us be realistic here, she might have a face like a anteater's scrotum but between the sheets you know she's a bunny.

Like Monica Bellucci in Dracula she screwed Ritchie into submission.

Poor bastard.

That's a fair point. But to me the acrobatics would be canceled by the idea that your privates are in the same area that used to house Sean Penn, Warren Beatty, Dennis Rodman, and Lord knows how many backup dancers. Sloppy seconds is one thing, even filthy fourths can be dealt with, but I can sympathize with Ritchie if he's had many sleepless nights the past few years wondering how far Jose Canseco got.

That is a good question about when REVOLVER will come to the US, I don't know if it would come here in the fall since THE TRANSPORTER 2 is supposed to arrive in September. Hopefully REVOLVER will arrive some time before year's end.

Yes, I think that's a fair assessment. Even Ritchie's staunchest defenders (which I certainly am not) would admit he's no writing genius but there's certainly no "harm" in him. At no point in Snatch, at least in my opinion, does Ritchie promote one creed, colour or race above another (everyone is equally incompetent/stupid/greedy etc.) and as long as that's the case my outrage meter will continue to flash green.

Yeah i just wanna see it, the trailer did it's job and got me excited, it's just a teaser and i hope they don't show too much (i'll have to censore myself probably),

I don't get the "going to the well" analogy though, Scorcese (not saying Richie is at his level) goes back to gangsters all the time, and nobody's saying he's lowering a bucket into the town's well, i believe Scorsese has Departed coming up, and just did Gangs, and Casino.

The above goes for Kevin Smith as well, not that I want him to do another Clerks, but it's what he's good at so best of luck to him. I don't think anyone was telling Romero not to do another zombie movie.

Guy Richie is good at the type of movie that he made popular (I'll probably get hate for this, but I honestly don't remember anyone making movies like he does before he came along, I'm not in film school so I wouldn't know).

Anyway I have a feeling that this one will be a little different, maybe more serious or something (I'm sure I'll eat these words too).

Like somebody else said on here...I want a movie to be good, so i'm optimistic about it before release, if the trailer got me excited, and that's fine if the trailer didn't excite you but we don't need the pointless hate, go post on AICN or Avary.com if your all about the mindless hate.

One could counter that argument with the notion that Scorsese is examining different aspects of crime culture (and gangster films in general) with the likes of Departed, Gangs and Goodfellas.

Gangs is a story of New York as much as it’s about crime.

Despite it taking place in the criminal underworld, the mechanics and purpose of Departed (and I’m judging this from Infernal Affairs) is different to that of Gangs, Goodfellas and Casino.

Romero is using his dead films to examine different aspects of society. There’s more to his work than zombies.

Guy Ritchie’s films lack the reinvigoration of the genre or the poetry of Scorsese’s gangster flicks. Ritchie's work also has absolutely nothing to say about anything compared Scorsese or Romero’s films. Lock, Stock and Snatch were forged in the fires of a shallow sub-genre fad. They’re bumper sticker movies.

This is why ‘more of the same’ in terms of Guy Ritchie is indeed a bad thing.

But if they're entertaining, it shouldn't matter. Ritchie isn't in Scorsese's league, not many people are but I still find his movies entertaining, I really don't get why we're over evaluating Ritchie's work, save that kind of debate for Scorsese who makes films with substance, Ritchie just makes entertaining gangster films, whether or not you enjoy them is another matter entirely but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them.

I'll second or third the question of why we're elevating Ritchie in the first place? He makes entertaining, flashy gangster pictures, and at that, he's only made two of them so far. No one bemoans John Woo making another movie with pistols, or John Carpenter a horror movie. Some directors like Michael Mann or Spielberg do it all in every genre, most don't. We've got plenty of directors to try other things, why begrudge Ritchie for making entertaining films?

I don't know anyone who really holds him up on a pedastal as some great autuer. It may be that he only does one genre really well. That's better for me as a fan than a director who does a lot of genres badly.

Well you won't find any Guy Ritchie bashing from me. I'm a huge fan of Lock, Stock and Snatch. I think his characters are great, dialogue is amusing, and the weaving together of plot lines is fantastic. Is he flashy and over the top? Sure. But that's part of what makes his movies fun. Slap the name Guy Ritchie on it, and I WILL see it in the theaters. Revolver looks interesting, but it is hard to tell without any dialogue in the trailer. Still, I'm optimistic.

The full trailer is up and I'm not sure if I'm if I like it or not, though I am a fan of Ritchie's work (which by the vitrol spewed on this board about his work some of you may disagree). Either way I'll see it when it makes it across to the US.
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Thanks for the trailer link.

It still looks interesting, but that last bit of dialouge about toothpaste was pretty bad. Though I can excuse one or two bad lines of dialouge in a movie I like.

Can't wait to see the good parts of the trailer again in a better format with better sound.

As paraphrased:

The look of this movie looks interesting; but it still smells like a pile of shit.

A couple of lines here and there may not be winners but that trailer makes the film look like a lot of fun. Statham, Liotta, and Pastore has sounded like a good combination from the get go. Even though I thought FOUR BROTHERS was only so-so I did think Andre Benjamin showed he could act. I'm definitely looking forward to this one hitting the states.

Critics savage Ritchie's new film

Ouch.

Yeah, everything I've read so far indicates that this is film isn't very good at all. I'm still interested in seeing it but my expectations have been lowered a bit.

Animated sequence ? Running Out Of Time's blood disorder. More knockabout, geezer banter ?

I mean, I'll still go and see it, for Andre B and Liotta if nothing else, but you've got to imagine the panic in Ritchie's mind as he reliases he can't now even make a critical success out of the marginal genre he made his name with.

Toronto's a notoriously vocal crowd though, so I suppose it works for and against a picture.

You wonder if he's not ever thought of taking a script written by, I don't know, someone else and filmming it ? I mean, he's no technical slouch, as even someone who doesn't care for his films could tell you.

Odd.

I was so excited for Ritchie to return to his Lock Stock/Snatch form, and the trailers made me excited by this. But I'm getting a sinking feeling reading these reviews. Then again, were the reviews for Lock Stock and Snatch really that special?

I have a feeling that Ritchie is the cinemtic equivilent of a rock group that has a couple of hits then falls off the face of the planet, and "Lock ,Stock, and Barrel" and "Snatch" were his two hits.

Reviews from the UK: brutal.

Guy Ritchie at the premiere: booed.

All the reviewers who didn't understand it: too stupid according those associated with the film.

It seems both he and the Missus are back making headlines, as she's apparently got the NHS in trouble for having preferential treatment when she broke her arm.

SPEEDRAZOR's inevitable reaction in this thread: priceless.

Is it at all possible that the film Statham and Liotta make with Uwe Boll will be better than the one they've made with Ritchie?

Sorry, but "You don't like my film becuase you are stupid to understand it" has become the first line of defense which a director has a major turkey on his hand. I think when the director or his flunkeys start saying that you know you got a turkey on your hands.
I wonder if the problem is in the age of internet fandom people are too quick to declare any director who makes a couple of successes as the next coming of Hitchcock or Orson Welles.

I have been to a few websites, and it appears as though Ritchie has damaged himself with his fan base;it seems that only the hard core supporters are defending "revolver".
Too bad, I loved "Lock" and 'SNatch" but now it appears that "Swept Away" was not a isolated fluke.
Maybe Madonna influence is the kiss of death to Ritchie.