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post #51 of 99
6/4/05 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration
I just think it's weird when people wake up one morning, look themselves in the mirror and say, "I'm going to invent a rumor completely out of thin air just to see how much attention I get."
I kissed a girl, once.

She was asleep.
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post #52 of 99
6/4/05 at 4:02am
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When I read that "Indiana Jones and the Opal of the Mer-Man Prince" shit on AICN I burst out laughing. I buy it maybe as a temp title, or as something Ford made up, although I wouldn't have credited him with such a clever sense of humor.

I still say the title shouldn't have "Indiana Jones" in it, harkening back to "Raiders." The original trilogy, with all it's homage to pulp serials, came to an end. This film should start afresh.

"Film?" I'd like to see Spielberg try this on digital, too, to see how he likes it.

I'd rather see Indy's daughter than son if we're to have a younger character along for the ride. I think the father-daugher relationship would make for an interesting dynamic if it were set against the common societal expectations of women in the 1950's, since one can imagine Indy's daughter would be a rebellious, adventurous type.

And Marion should be the mother if they do a daughter thing. They should bring back Karen Allen regardless, because I've always seen Marion as the true love of Indy's life.
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post #53 of 99
6/4/05 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by ScottieFerguson
You do, uh, realize he was fucking with you, right?
That is exactly what he was doing Scottie. Just like the time Harrison told that woman that Darabont had turned in a 275 + page script
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post #54 of 99
6/5/05 at 12:06am
Those crazy talkbackers are going to town with all sorts of movie titles for Indy 4.

Some of them are quite hilarious.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20375
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post #55 of 99
6/5/05 at 3:04am
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Originally Posted by Eileen
Those crazy talkbackers are going to town with all sorts of movie titles for Indy 4.

Some of them are quite hilarious.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20375
Yup, a couple of them are funny but too bad you have to sift through the dumbass poltical shit to see them.
I don't want to dignify that shit with term Discussion. Just a bunch of morons yelling at each other...and both sides are equally moronic.
But "Raiders of The Blue Harvest" was pretty clever.
I find it incredible that anybody could beleive that rumor for one minute.
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post #56 of 99
6/5/05 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by dudalb
Yup, a couple of them are funny but too bad you have to sift through the dumbass poltical shit to see them.
I agree as there is just no need for that. Other than that though it was a fun read.

Not sure how other Indy fans are but I am looking forward to this movie way more than any of the previous you know what movies that Lucas has been working on.

I just have a good feeling about this one.
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post #57 of 99
6/5/05 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by Eileen
I just have a good feeling about this one.
Please share why. I beg you. I could really use some cheering up about INDY IV. Believe me, I would love nothing more than to see a kick ass INDIANA JONES movie. But then again, I felt the same way about STAR WARS and I got burned three times in a row recently. Given Lucas' completely absurd story sense lately, given Spielberg's decreasing success (and interest?) with popcorn fare and given Ford's truly painful-to-watch descent into the has-been gutter, plus the Indy-meets-Little Green Men storyline, I just don't have high hopes at the moment. And I want to. I really, really want to.
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post #58 of 99
6/5/05 at 9:50pm
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Originally Posted by Litmus Configuration
Please share why. I beg you. I could really use some cheering up about INDY IV. Believe me, I would love nothing more than to see a kick ass INDIANA JONES movie. But then again, I felt the same way about STAR WARS and I got burned three times in a row recently. Given Lucas' completely absurd story sense lately, given Spielberg's decreasing success (and interest?) with popcorn fare and given Ford's truly painful-to-watch descent into the has-been gutter, plus the Indy-meets-Little Green Men storyline, I just don't have high hopes at the moment. And I want to. I really, really want to.
I know exactly how you feel Litmus because at one time I did not want another Indy Jones made. However, after giving it some thought I am now positive about this.

There are several reasons and none are anything major.

First of all it is the character. Indiana Jones offers an opportunity for several adventures that can work as a storyline. What will not work is "the old guy" gag and I believe they will avoid this. Even an older Indiana Jones can be better than the Indy inspired movies we have seen.

Secondly, both Spielberg and Harrison are excited about doing this movie. The key word is excited because when was the last time you saw a Harrison movie and you just felt that he was enjoying making it? My point being that when Harrison is excited about a project, no one can touch him in delivering. The same goes for Spielberg.

So in the end what it all boils down to is having faith in Spielberg and Harrison.
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post #59 of 99
6/6/05 at 1:08am
I'm curious to see how Indy's ear-piercing is worked into the storyline.

Maybe a flashback to the Little Maharaja stabbing into the left side of the head of the Indy voodoo doll?

This would necessitate CGing an ear-piercing in Raiders of the Lost Ark and The Last Crusade for the tetrology release, of course, since both those films take place after Temple of Doom (I do not bring it up because I think you do not know. I do not even bring it up because I think you think I do not know. I only bring it up so that I might have a reason to write a parenthetical aside which does its wriggling best to justify itself under the heatlamp of your ever-critical eye).

TMcQ

Postscript:

Do you think Paramount would sue if someone were to title a film about an American Bollywood fetishist "Indian Jones"?
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post #60 of 99
6/6/05 at 5:42pm
well, they will have to use Harrison Ford's character in there somehow...don't know. The young sidekick could work, but they really have to try hard not to come off cheesy. Dah... have they even started to film this yet?
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post #61 of 99
6/7/05 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by Thurston McQ
*sets fifth column hectorting tazers to stun*

Sure, but is that canon?
FWIW... Lucas himself directed the scenes with Harrison Ford for "Indiana Jones and The Mystery of The Blues". They were shot near Ford's ranch in Jackson Hole, Wyoming (which, incidentally, I just visited while on vacation -- Jackson Hole, not Ford's home).
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post #62 of 99
6/7/05 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Carl Cunningham
They were shot near Ford's ranch in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
But were they shot out of a cannon?
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post #63 of 99
6/27/05 at 3:12am
Call me whacky but doesn't anyone think it may be time for the next Spielberg and Lucas to create a completely original character that captures the spirit of an age they grew up in and loved and makes us all remember why we adore movies in the first place rather than us all desperately hoping an almost elderly Harry, George and Steve will re-capture lightning in a bottle for a fourth time almost 2 decades after their last attempt?

Or is that just crazy talk?

Indy sums up so many reasons Im a lifelong cinephile its not funny.

But Im also a proponent of originality and giving the next generation of dream-weavers a go rather than trading on past memories.

Nostalgia will be the death of us all and no one seems to care.
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post #64 of 99
6/27/05 at 3:36am
I don't think your being crazy at all Rain dog, in fact that's how I hope events will take shape.

Now that SW is over I'm glad Lucas will be doing something else and maybe this will give him the opportunity to create new films with new characters and give him the chance to go nuts with his FX.
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post #65 of 99
6/27/05 at 4:00am
Sadly, I think the main character in the MUMMY films is that original hero for today's kids and teenagers. Sucks to be them.

I really have no idea about the status of INDY 4 because it's one of those projects where I've turned the volume down on all the speculation at this point. That being said and as corny as this may sound I would like a new INDY film give him a brother, maybe even a half brother, played by Tom Selleck.
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post #66 of 99
6/27/05 at 4:22am
If Seans in this one couldn't it tie in with one of his "classics" - we could have

Indiana O'Jones and The Little People

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post #67 of 99
6/28/05 at 11:40pm
IJ goes to Mars - the Cydonian face and pyramids, the mystery of aliens, ties in to Roswell. The ultimate origin of all the other archiological artifacts he's collected. Also some scenes maybe reminicent (or slight homage) of Flash Gordon - the other great serial series GL and SS loved to death. HA! Jones versus Ming!
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post #68 of 99
6/29/05 at 4:26pm
Indy vs. Jason. You heard it here first.
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post #69 of 99
6/30/05 at 8:09am
Personally I am looking forward to this. I love the Indy films (well the first and third one, the second one not so much) so another one would be very cool.

I think the daughter Idea is the best one suggested, it would be fun to see a reverse of the dynamic from Crusade. With Indy getting anoyed with his daughter not doing things they way he would. Or even if she did things exaclty the way he did and indy berating her for taking to many risks, and she could counter all she is doing is exaclty what he did.

I can work and im hoping it does.
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post #70 of 99
7/1/05 at 5:42pm
Personally the idea of an Indiana Jones movie involving Roswell and aliens is awful and goes against the whole series. Indy's universe is about fantasy, about the magic of ancient civilizations and the natural, the primitive. It's about riding a horse through a canyon to find a thousand-year-old object from ancient ruins. Science fiction doesn't belong in Indy's universe, fantasy does. Lucas' sci-fi franchise is Star Wars, and the two shouldn't intermix.

This thing is set in the 50s, and even without the sci-i there's plenty of subject matter from that decade to use. Gangsters or film-noir are still an option, as well as Russian or Chinese folklore as he battles the commies for one of their relics. With Russia or China an arctic setting is possible, which would be a good change of pace from the traditional desert setting, or a trip to the African jungle or savannah would be equally cool.
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post #71 of 99
7/1/05 at 6:47pm
I don't think Spielberg will have the "commies" be the bad guys in Indy 4. That might upset his dinner date Castro.
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post #72 of 99
7/1/05 at 11:15pm
First he's a greedy jew now he's a communist.

Some fucking people.
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post #73 of 99
7/5/05 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by dudalb
How about "Indiana Jones and The Lost City of Ry'leh"?
He ain't coming back from that one, though....
That's good, but how about Indiana Jones and the Mysteries of International Law where Indy is under investigation for stealing historical artifacts. Face it: pretty much everything that fucker did in Raiders is illegal. Cool, but illegal.
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post #74 of 99
1/19/06 at 1:48pm
I was reading on Comingsoon.net that in an interview with MTV, George claims the script for Indy 4 is STILL being written.

Um, didn't George claim at one time that a script had been approved, and they were just waiting for Steven and Harrison to have clear schedules to start filming? I know the script written by Darabont was rejected, but I could have sworn there was a script written after that that was given the green light.

Anyway, here's where I read the shitty news:

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=12763
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post #75 of 99
1/19/06 at 3:15pm
What's the betting if Jones has a daughter, her name will be 'Diana'?
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post #76 of 99
1/19/06 at 3:57pm
I still can't believe people actually want this to happen. All three of the Indy movies we've had are great, and that's enough. I'm also flabbergasted at the hate Temple and Crusade get. They are all very fun movies, though Raiders certainly shines the brightest by far.

And Indiana Jones would simply not work in any other timeframe. Indiana Jones was created for that thirties serial environment. There's no way you can take him out of that element successfully. It'd be like putting a pig's heart into a human. Sure it'll beat, but you'll like... be... like... part pig... and stuff...

Okay, so I can't come up with a good analogy; it still just wouldn't work.
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post #77 of 99
1/19/06 at 4:37pm
Being a HUGE fan, I would like to see it happen. Having grown up on Indiana Jones and being without it since the late 80's, I'd love to see one more to enjoy at my ripe old age.

My parents tell stories of how when I was a kid, they reserved seats in the back (with them) as my brothers and I sat up front to watch Raiders. Because they knew (as they used to screen movies for us) that once Forrestal came out of the cave wall we would be running back screaming in terror. Which we did. Subsequently I wasn't allowed to see Temple of Doom in the theater due to the violence and kid slavery thing.

If they do it right, which is what I think (hope) is why they're waiting for the right script, it could be a good send off. Of course nothing beats them riding off into the sunset at the end of Last Crusade.
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post #78 of 99
1/19/06 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by OhioJones
Being a HUGE fan, I would like to see it happen. Having grown up on Indiana Jones and being without it since the late 80's, I'd love to see one more to enjoy at my ripe old age.

My parents tell stories of how when I was a kid, they reserved seats in the back (with them) as my brothers and I sat up front to watch Raiders. Because they knew (as they used to screen movies for us) that once Forrestal came out of the cave wall we would be running back screaming in terror. Which we did. Subsequently I wasn't allowed to see Temple of Doom in the theater due to the violence and kid slavery thing.

If they do it right, which is what I think (hope) is why they're waiting for the right script, it could be a good send off. Of course nothing beats them riding off into the sunset at the end of Last Crusade.
Problem is Ford ain't getting any younger, and I don't know how much longer they can wait for a script.
But I am getting tired of Lucas backtracking all the time on this film. He seems to go back and forth about what stage the script is at.
I was pretty sure this was going to happen, but now I am not because I get the feeling that Lucas seems unable to make up his mind about it.
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post #79 of 99
1/20/06 at 3:44am
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Originally Posted by Barkatthemoon
I was reading on Comingsoon.net that in an interview with MTV, George claims the script for Indy 4 is STILL being written.

Um, didn't George claim at one time that a script had been approved, and they were just waiting for Steven and Harrison to have clear schedules to start filming? I know the script written by Darabont was rejected, but I could have sworn there was a script written after that that was given the green light.
After everything that's happened over the last quarter-century-plus, I'm surprised that anyone still believes anything that George Lucas or his minions say anymore. His company has made more millions off strategic lies than ENRON. Okay, perhaps that's an exaggeration...but still...

Even though I'm very much opposed to the creation of an INDY IV (over-the-hill drunken star, creatively-bankrupt executive producer, artistically-unchallenged director), I think an Indiana Jones adventure set in the '40s or '50s could work very well. Kind of a shame that we probably won't see what Indy was up to during WWII but I think having him go up against the Soviets during the Atomic Age could be fun.

Of course, I'm sure now Indy would be in it strictly for the vodka. And if Harrison Ford could demand that part of the adventure take place in Columbia, he would really be engaged by the material.
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post #80 of 99
1/24/06 at 5:41pm
Here is a good site to find out about the current and past Indiana Jones movies. http://www.theraider.net/films/indy4/index.php
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post #81 of 99
1/30/06 at 4:20pm
Just spreading news...gossip.
Courtesy of Garth at Dark Horizons, http://www.darkhorizons.com, here are a couple snippets of info on Indiana Jones IV from the past week or so for anyone interested.

From today (1/30)
Harrison Ford says "I can't tell you anything about 'Indiana Jones,' but I think you've just seen a film in which I perform physically to an extent [that will be] sufficient for 'Indiana Jones'. The audience is there, everybody involved is anxious to make the film again".

From 1/23
Out doing promotions for "Firewall", 63-year-old actor Harrison Ford told Contact Music in regards to "Indiana Jones IV" that "It's looking very good to do another one. I haven't felt this positive about it happening in a long time... but if it doesn't happen in the next two years we should all forget it."

Meanwhile George Lucas told MTV News recently that "We just keep working on it. You know, we just write and write and write and write and write. But we are getting closer, and hopefully this year we will have a start date and we will have a script that we all love and hopefully it will come out next year".

Lucas added that Jeff Nathanson ("Catch Me if You Can") is the newest addition to a pile of screenwriters attached.
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post #82 of 99
1/30/06 at 4:39pm
Jesus, every writer in Hollywood will have worked on this script before it is done. I am well aware that most scripts get worked on by a number of people (many of whom never get screen credit for it, just money) but the Indy 4 script does seem to be taking this to the edge.
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post #83 of 99
1/30/06 at 7:48pm
Did you know that when a feature film script gets revised they mark the new additions in different colors (as in blue revision: 12-24-01; pink revision: 01-30-04; salmon revision: 05-07-06)?

Well they're gonna have to invent a new fuckin' rainbow for this one.

On the other hand, I'd be curious to check the front cover of this script (or maybe the three covers attached just to include the whole set of writers/ doctors) just to see if it'd be something like:

"Indiana Jones 4",
by (insert name of writer)

Revisions by:
St.Paul the Apostle: 03-05-35
Wm.Shakespeare: 06-07-23
R.L.Stevenson: 11-23-67
Ernest Lehmann: 12-09-56
Larry Kasdan: 06-15-79
Frank Darabont: 08-24-95
M.Night Shyamalan: 08-09-99
C.Flockhart: 02-03-02
etc... etc... etc...
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post #84 of 99
1/30/06 at 9:10pm
You talk about Harrison Ford like he's ancient. He's not as young as he used to be, no, but it's not like he needs a cane. As long as he doesn't try to play Indy as too young, I don't see it being that big of an issue.

What DOES worry me is the constant rewrites. That usually spells diaster.
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post #85 of 99
1/31/06 at 5:19pm
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As long as he doesn't try to play Indy as too young, I don't see it being that big of an issue.
I don't want to see Indy played as too young, but on the other hand I don't want to sit through an Indiana Jones movie filled with "I'm too old for this shit" jokes. Either option sounds like a dud.
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post #86 of 99
1/31/06 at 7:41pm
But I also think Harrison Ford is the kind of actor who could pull that off without it being too cliche.
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post #87 of 99
1/31/06 at 8:22pm
Not lately he isn't.
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post #88 of 99
2/21/06 at 4:17pm
Looks like Indy 4 just hit the fast track.... Found this while digging around:

http://www.spielbergfilms.com/indy4news022006.html
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post #89 of 99
2/23/06 at 5:50pm
Interesting about Spielberg, but I so burned out on rumors that it will take an official press release from Lucas.Spielberg, and Ford to make me think this is actually about to get underway.
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post #90 of 99
2/23/06 at 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by Hewlett
Not lately he isn't.
I don't know if it's his ability that's lost, as much as his movie choices.
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post #91 of 99
4/15/06 at 11:05pm
My site partner used a recent picture of Harrison (taken last week in fact) and added a different background and put a fedora on him and this is how Indiana would look right now.



Looks pretty damn good but of course I have no sense at all when it comes to Harrison but I did want to see what other members thought.
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post #92 of 99
4/16/06 at 4:02am
Not bad, but we can't see his gut in that photo.
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post #93 of 99
4/21/06 at 7:00pm
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Originally Posted by Eileen
My site partner used a recent picture of Harrison (taken last week in fact) and added a different background and put a fedora on him and this is how Indiana would look right now.



Looks pretty damn good but of course I have no sense at all when it comes to Harrison but I did want to see what other members thought.
Yeah, I think this could work. I like the idea of a new Indy movie, I really do. I so wanna see this film happen. And plus, judging by your picture, Ford may be old, but he's still the man, and he can still pull Indy off in my opinion.
A film about an older, more grizzled, more world weary Indy? Mr Spielberg, for that, you can have my £6.50. I'd see that!
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post #94 of 99
4/23/06 at 3:27pm
i'd definitely go see this, who cares if he's too old or has to cruise the jungle on a Lark, it's Indiana Jones, and i think he should definitely fight Nazi's again, retired South American Nazi's with flame-thrower canes and really well engineered robotic dogs, 'sides who else would play him? Clive Owen? Will Smith? i mean if Anthony Hopkins can do Red Dragon, of course that sucked, nevermind...
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post #95 of 99
7/9/06 at 1:12am
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Originally Posted by Desslar
Not bad, but we can't see his gut in that photo.
Ford stays in shape from what I've seen over the last several years. An old co-worker of my sister's who lives in LA said she saw he playing tennis regularly at the gym where she worked out a few years ago and if I remember correctly, he had washboard abs in What Lies Beneath. He seemed to be fit in Firewall, too.
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post #96 of 99
7/9/06 at 1:15am

Take this with a grain of salt...

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I knew I wanted to go to the movies Friday night, but I wasn't sure what to see. There was no way I would be fighting the crowds at Dead Man's Chest and, while I almost went to see Wassup Rockers at the Angelika, I decided to go a different route. After reading Chris' post on the Raiders of the Lost Ark screening here in NYC, the thought of seeing Indy back up on the big screen was just too tempting. Besides, Karen Allen was doing a Q&A afterward and that's a pretty nifty bonus.

Long story short, the film was awesome, as expected. However, when it came time for the. Q&A, I sat patiently and waited as I knew one of the first questions asked would be, "So, will you be involved in Indiana Jones 4?" And what do you know, it was the third question. Now, here's where things get interesting. Allen begins to talk about Indy 4 in a very "I have no idea what's going on" kind of way, however, you could tell she knew more then she was letting on.

She did say there were whispers the script was calling for both Allen's character and Kate Capshaw's character from Temple of Doom to reunite with Indiana Jones in the fourth installment. Though nothing was certain, the way she said it made the rumor seem to be much more than just a rumor. And then she dropped the bomb folks. As she delves into this next bit of info, for a brief moment, she hesitates before saying (and I'm paraphrasing here), "Oh, and I just heard Natalie Portman was cast as Indy's daughter." Now, I seem to recall way back in the day, the Portman rumors were out there -- what with George Lucas having just shot three films with the girl. But is it now a done deal? Immediately after the Portman line, Allen switched topics, reverting back to an earlier question. As if she knew she shouldn't have said anything. Of course, this is all still part of one giant rumor, but if I were a betting man, something big will be announced soon...
Source: http://www.cinematical.com/
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post #97 of 99
7/9/06 at 1:34am
It would be really cool to have Marion back. But then, I liked how we got different ladies for each film. Maybe they could bring a character like Sophia Hapgood (Indy's love interest from the Fate of Atlantis game) into the story.
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post #98 of 99
7/11/06 at 1:08pm
A father-daughter dynamic might be an interesting contrast to the father-son dynamic of Last Crusade. I'm still hoping for the Atlantis route...
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post #99 of 99
7/12/06 at 3:03pm
I saw the "father daugter" rumor pop up on AICN last week, about a year from when it originally popped up. It's seeming to be a fan made concept at this point.
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