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Movies that could not be made today

post #1 of 31
6/5/05 at 3:59am
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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
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post #2 of 31
6/5/05 at 7:41am
Why exactly couldn't that film be made today? We still have great directors, great writers and great actors...
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post #3 of 31
6/5/05 at 9:01am
Triumph Of The Will
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post #4 of 31
6/5/05 at 9:12am
also what has this got to do with dvds?
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post #5 of 31
6/5/05 at 9:20am
I suspect Rambo III and The Living Daylights would draw the odd chuckle or two.
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post #6 of 31
6/5/05 at 1:30pm
Birth of a Nation, obviously. Anything made by Russ Meyer or Jack Hill -- oh sure, technically they could be remade, but certainly not with the same degree of frankness and freedom.
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post #7 of 31
6/5/05 at 1:39pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sackley
Why exactly couldn't that film be made today? We still have great directors, great writers and great actors...
Not that good. (in my opinion, obviously)
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post #8 of 31
6/5/05 at 2:17pm
Blazing Saddles. No studio would have the balls now.

And incidentally, when you talk about movies that couldn't be made today, it should be about subject matter, not quality. To say that a movie couldn't be made now simply because it's good is asenine. The ratio of good movies to bad ones is pretty much the same as it's ever been.
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post #9 of 31
6/5/05 at 2:30pm
Evil Dead 2...oh wait, they're what?!
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post #10 of 31
6/5/05 at 2:54pm
Okay yt, so you're saying that we don't have Milos Forman anymore?

That writers like Charlie Kaufman or David Mamet can't square up against R P McMurphy?

That there aren't an array of great actors - not stars, ACTORS - around to take on these parts? I'm sorry, I know your intenions are pure, but praising a 30 year old film and ragging on current quality filmmakers is not the same thing. Do you just not go to the cinema anymore?

I see at least a dozen really great films and dozens more really good ones each year. Its childish to say that good and great films don't get made anymore. They just don't get the hype that lesser films often get. And that's no bad thing.
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post #11 of 31
6/5/05 at 3:09pm
There is no film that could not be made today. I know this is a bold statement, but look at the saccharine treatment given to Che Guevara, one of the most brutal murderers of Cubas' brutal history. Anything can be done, which is why this is such an exciting time to be a film nut.
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post #12 of 31
6/5/05 at 3:13pm
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I'm not trying to be combative or attack today's filmmakers when I say that Cuckoo's Nest couldn't be made today. I don't think even Milos Forman knew what he had back when he was making the movie. I just think the time and place, the script, the cast, everything came together to create a totally unique piece of art. Even if you brought the same people together today to make a fim, it wouldn't result in a movie like Cuckoo's Nest. For one thing, that movie is not aided by a soundtrack or flashy editing or photography. My experience watching it last night was one of total emotional engagement effected solely by the writing, direction and the pure force of brilliant subtle "realistic" acting with not a single bad performance. For another thing, movies were allowed to take their time when this movie was made. You didn't a big action set piece or dramatic turning point every five minutes. Movies could mosey along to their climax in those days in a way that they can't today.

I'm not declaring that I'm right or that anyone who thinks the movie's boring or unspectacular is wrong. This is just my opinion after watching Cuckoo's Nest for the first time in a long time. I haven't seen anything like it in the movies for the past ten years at least.

And though that's what I meant with the first post in this thread, it's true that a lot of movies (like Blazing Saddles etc.) couldn't be made today for social reasons. I watched Song of the South a few weeks ago and while it has all the trappings of a disney movie it's crazy how comfortable it is with its racial stereotypes.
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post #13 of 31
6/5/05 at 3:28pm
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Originally Posted by Nigel St. Buggering
Blazing Saddles. No studio would have the balls now.

And incidentally, when you talk about movies that couldn't be made today, it should be about subject matter, not quality. To say that a movie couldn't be made now simply because it's good is asenine. The ratio of good movies to bad ones is pretty much the same as it's ever been.
You stole my answer
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post #14 of 31
6/5/05 at 9:47pm
Song of the South - Tar Babyand Uncle Remus would be a tough sell today
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post #15 of 31
6/6/05 at 2:32am
Clockwork Orange
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post #16 of 31
6/6/05 at 2:43am
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And incidentally, when you talk about movies that couldn't be made today, it should be about subject matter, not quality."

Brown Bunny featured the star/director get a blowjob on camera. I think just about anything is possible. Although they might not open in wide release, content wise just about anything could happen.
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post #17 of 31
6/6/05 at 9:40am
I say these two, not because the talent isn't there, but because the world isn't the same as it was and niether are the studios.

Citizen Kane and Dr. Strangelove.
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post #18 of 31
6/6/05 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by Grofield
James Bond -- saved by the Taliban!!!
Who are led, it is revealed, by a graduate of Oxford University with an accent so refined it would make the Queen blush.

I’ve always said the Bond franchise went downhill the moment Dalton came on board and everything started getting realistic.
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post #19 of 31
6/7/05 at 12:59am
The most glaring recent example: Fight Club. Ain't no studio in the world would touch a satire about a terrorist movement.
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post #20 of 31
6/7/05 at 11:22am
Blazing Saddles is the only one that I agree with, yet the Chapelle Show is very close if not beyond its controversy. Song of the South probably too. I think that all of the others could be. One Flew Over could be. The most recent example of a big mainstream, character driven movie was "A Beautiful Mind." True, alot of these are not getting green lit by the big studio, but there are many smaller markets that are making fantastic movies. There has and always will be trash; you just have to remember. Further, back in the early 70's there were very few truly entertaining movies. Jaws changed that and movies have been much more entertaining since.
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post #21 of 31
6/7/05 at 8:42pm
Here's an odd one.....The Goonies.

A kids action/adventure movie that drops the words "shit" and "bullshit" a combined 19 times, and still got a PG rating. Those prudes in the MPAA would never let that happen nowadays, so of course, neither would the studio. Hell, even that statue/broken penis scene would've never seen the light of day.

I'm sure there are other 80's flicks that fall under the same category, but this was the first one that popped in my head. Nostalgia issues aside, at least movies back then had more freedom, language-wise.
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post #22 of 31
6/8/05 at 12:38pm
2001.

I doubt any studio would jump at a film with such a pace and subject matter that presents itself in such a realistic way (no dialogue in parts, no sound effects in vacuum of space), in addition to an ending as open and symbolic.
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post #23 of 31
6/8/05 at 2:11pm
BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA.

Woman slapping drunk driver graverobs only to see the family of the corpse gunned down in slow motion. Add a girl's arm being broken painfully by her father's bodyguard, said girl committing her father to death, and a woman accepting she's going to be raped and just letting her attacker get on with it. I can't see it happenin'.
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post #24 of 31
6/9/05 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by OhioJones
2001.

I doubt any studio would jump at a film with such a pace and subject matter that presents itself in such a realistic way (no dialogue in parts, no sound effects in vacuum of space), in addition to an ending as open and symbolic.
Even more so when you think that in today's dollars the film would cost at least 150 million dollars.

I guess Hulk is the closest studio film we've had recently - very expensive, somehow abstract, with an uncompromising pacing and an obscure ending, went against people's expectations... but it's still very far from 2001's very demanding experience. I guess each generation gets the films it deserves.
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post #25 of 31
6/9/05 at 11:43am
This a wierd thread...

ummm...Harry and the Hendersons!!!
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post #26 of 31
6/9/05 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Leo Lucky
There is no film that could not be made today. I know this is a bold statement, but look at the saccharine treatment given to Che Guevara, one of the most brutal murderers of Cubas' brutal history. Anything can be done, which is why this is such an exciting time to be a film nut.
What exactly did you expect from a film about his life before he was a revolutionary? He hadn't killed anyone yet, you know. And it is actually based on real-life events. The director didn't leave out the part about Che slaughtering lepers in a fit of rage because he wanted to make Che look better - it's because such an event never happened.
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post #27 of 31
6/9/05 at 12:41pm
Yeah, as far as the "politically correct" ideas go, I think you could get just about anything made, if you really fought for it (and kept the budget low). I'm constantly amazed that Drugstore Cowboy got made in the late 80's, at the height of Just Say No/War On Drugs hysteria.
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post #28 of 31
6/12/05 at 2:34pm
I'm shocked no one has said this one....Freaks.
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post #29 of 31
6/13/05 at 3:46am
SpaceCamp
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post #30 of 31
6/13/05 at 4:04am
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Originally Posted by Grofield
Dirty Harry
The French Connection

Yeah, right. Because films about extreme right-wing heroes who do whatever it takes to Git Er Done! would never fly today.
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post #31 of 31
6/13/05 at 6:32am
Apocolypse Now.
I dont know if there is a studio around these days that would throw that kind of money at that kind of script...plus, everyone shat their pants when Von Trier said he was going to kill a donkey. That big ass cow getting the slice always freaked me out.
The Godfather-if that were made today it would probably be "more like the Soprano's"
Would Taxi Driver get made today? Who the fuck would play Bickle? Ashton?
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